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Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:29 PM

I am just going to come out and say it

After two decades of listening to the Religiously Insane blame us for everything that has gone wrong:

This is God punishing Conservatives for voting in Trump.

This is God punishing Conservatives for their racism and bigotry.

This is God punishing Conservatives for turning their backs on the poor and the sick.

This is God punishing Conservatives for gunning down our children.

This is God punishing Conservatives for ignoring the homeless.

This is God punishing Conservatives for worshiping celebrities and sports figures.

This is God punishing Conservatives for loving money more than their neighbors.

This is God punishing Conservatives for following false prophets (Jim Baker, Pat Robertson, Paula White, Jerry Falwell, et al)

This is God punishing Conservatives for poisoning the planet.

This is God punishing Conservatives for our unjust judicial system.

This is God punishing Conservatives for our inhumane prisons.

This is God punishing Conservatives for lying to ourselves about reality.

This is God punishing Conservatives for twisting Her word to justify their own hatred.

A Hell hotter than the core of a supernova awaits those who have sinned in this manner against God, and their souls shall burn in everlasting torment.

Feel free to express this view to any Conservative you know, especially fundagelicals, extremist Catholics, or Mormons.

(By the way, I am an atheist and don't believe any of this supernatural nonsense. But you know, I am sick of hearing people who are hypocrites to their own superstitious dogma).

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Reply I am just going to come out and say it (Original post)
Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 OP
gopiscrap Mar 2020 #1
ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #2
Jeebo Mar 2020 #3
ProfessorGAC Mar 2020 #5
alittlelark Mar 2020 #6
ancianita Mar 2020 #42
redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #4
Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #7
pandr32 Mar 2020 #10
Beartracks Mar 2020 #33
packman Mar 2020 #8
uponit7771 Mar 2020 #9
BigOleDummy Mar 2020 #11
happybird Mar 2020 #40
BigOleDummy Mar 2020 #47
srose58089 Mar 2020 #13
Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #22
soldierant Mar 2020 #56
Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #15
efhmc Mar 2020 #48
wnylib Mar 2020 #49
erlewyne Mar 2020 #12
IronLionZion Mar 2020 #14
Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #17
totodeinhere Mar 2020 #21
wnylib Mar 2020 #52
Generic Brad Mar 2020 #31
bucolic_frolic Mar 2020 #51
gembaby1 Mar 2020 #16
Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #23
totodeinhere Mar 2020 #18
Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #24
Botany Mar 2020 #19
Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #25
Different Drummer Mar 2020 #20
Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #26
gibraltar72 Mar 2020 #27
Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #45
no_hypocrisy Mar 2020 #28
Initech Mar 2020 #29
ck4829 Mar 2020 #30
gordianot Mar 2020 #32
Beartracks Mar 2020 #34
Traildogbob Mar 2020 #35
Doreen Mar 2020 #36
demigoddess Mar 2020 #37
happybird Mar 2020 #38
H2O Man Mar 2020 #39
jpak Mar 2020 #41
mountain grammy Mar 2020 #43
VladmireTrumpkins Mar 2020 #44
alfredo Mar 2020 #46
Brainfodder Mar 2020 #50
blue-wave Mar 2020 #53
Missn-Hitch Mar 2020 #54
Cetacea Mar 2020 #55
live love laugh Mar 2020 #57
Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #61
Perseus Mar 2020 #58
meadowlander Mar 2020 #59
VOX Mar 2020 #60
Joinfortmill Mar 2020 #62
Permanut Mar 2020 #63
Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #64
robbedvoter Mar 2020 #65
Miguelito Loveless Mar 2020 #67
mdbl Mar 2020 #66

Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:30 PM

1. excellent

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Response to ProfessorGAC (Reply #2)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:35 PM

3. What does "K&R" mean?

I see it all the time on these boards and still have no idea what it means.

-- Ron

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Response to Jeebo (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:38 PM

5. Kick & Recommended

There's a little click spot in lower left of the original post. If you click it, you're recommending the thread.
Kicking is just posting a reply to get the thread up the list by having a more recent post.
Hope that helps.

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Response to Jeebo (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:38 PM

6. Kick and Recommend

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Response to Jeebo (Reply #3)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:05 PM

42. I'd link you to DU's old glossary page, but it's apparently disappeared through the archives zone

and out the 404 Not Found door.

Guess we don't have it anymore.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:46 PM

7. Another list, re Republicons owning this crisis by owning Donny Six Words


Trump-Republicons own this crisis

Republicons plowed the ground for tRump
Republicons seeded the ground with trumpanzees
Republicons created tRump as a Republ Icon in 2015-16
Republicons elected tRump candidate
Republicons endorsed tRump
Republicons voted for tRump
Republicons enable tRump
Republicons defend tRump
Republicons lie for tRump
Republicons protect tRump

Trump-Republicons own this.

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:57 PM

10. +1

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #7)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:37 PM

33. Yep. They cover his ass, carry his water, and coddle his ego. n/t

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:49 PM

8. I agree , but how does that old saying go?

A bad rain falls on the just and the unjust at the same time

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Response to packman (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 12:55 PM

9. +1

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Response to packman (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:05 PM

11. I always think of

.. the intro monologue from Taxi Driver..... "someday a real rain is going to fall, wash all the scum from the streets"

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Response to BigOleDummy (Reply #11)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:53 PM

40. Didn't realize that was originally from Taxi Driver

Thought it was The Clash.

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Response to happybird (Reply #40)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:19 PM

47. One of my favorite bands.... even to this day

But the "real rain....." was the voiceover opening of Taxi Driver. And THAT'S still one of my favorite movies *blush*

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Response to packman (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:10 PM

13. Covid 19 has no political affiliation nor does God

I agree with this thread but I believe Covid 19 will "punish" all regardless of political affiliation or beliefs.

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Response to srose58089 (Reply #13)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:26 PM

22. My point is not that this is a logical supposition

Quite the opposite. However having endured these diatribes from Conservatives about “God’s punishment of Liberals”, sauce for the gander.

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Response to srose58089 (Reply #13)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:28 PM

56. And of course you are correct. And we all know it.

But the point is, the people OP is speaking about - and to - think in these terms. This language may not get the message through to them. But, if it doesn't, then what will?

And on a more practical level, COVID-19 may well hit them harder than it does us. Because we have scientific knowledge to help us get through, knowledge which they respect. That's like us having an umbrella that they can't, and won't, steal.

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Response to packman (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:20 PM

15. Well, kind of the reason I am an atheist

Religion is illogical.

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Response to packman (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:20 PM

48. From the Bible: Matthew 5:45

He ........ sends rain on the just and the unjust.

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Response to packman (Reply #8)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:22 PM

49. LOL. How appropriate for this thread.

That "old saying" is Biblical, from the book of Ecclesiastes.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:08 PM

12. The Religiously Insane are self righteous.

They do not care for anybody else. To them, their shit don't stink
and they spend their lives smelling it.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:19 PM

14. The virus doesn't discriminate

but it can be used to troll conservatives

There are young people who think this is sent to punish old people for destroying the planet

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:21 PM

17. Well, at least there is a karmic justice there

Bit of a bummer for those of us who have been trying to clean things up and vote out the scoundrels.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:25 PM

21. I have heard that too that old people are being punished. But...

not only old people are suffering from this. Younger people will suffer when they lose their jobs because of a recession caused by the pandemic. And younger children will suffer when their parents lose their jobs and don't have money to pay the rent or buy groceries.

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #21)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:52 PM

52. I suspect that there are many

who consider the vulnerability of seniors to be a blessing. Less seniors, less Social Security and Medicare payouts. Cut the budget.

Say what you will about religion and your own beliefs or non belief. But, since this thread is about religion, I am a member of a church (not evangelical fundies). I agree with the point the OP makes. Here is my recent experience.

Yesterday, I received an email from the pastor sent to all members, outlining all cancellations and changes due to covid. There are many seniors in the congregation. He went on to reassure people who decide, for their safety, not to attend the weekly service, even with changes, that they are still part of the group. They should call the church if they need anything to help get through the health crisis. That was followed by a request to "members with resources" to contact the church about their availability to respond to calls for help. The email ended with, "You are not alone."

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:36 PM

31. Won't they be unpleasantly surprised when it hits them hardest

This country has become the haves and the have nots. Italy may have decided to tend to the young who have the highest chance of recovery and not treat the elderly. But it will be different here. The uninsured will be the ones left to perish, I am afraid.

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Response to IronLionZion (Reply #14)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:36 PM

51. Yes it does, it rewards hermits

and while it may seem just that the high and mighty will also participate, this line of thought sounds an awful lot like Fundamentalists who believe AIDS is God punishing gays. Accepting hate is to become just like them.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:21 PM

16. Well, if the conservatives can use God like that.

Then turn around is fair play.

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Response to gembaby1 (Reply #16)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:27 PM

23. My point exactly.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:22 PM

18. But this virus does not discriminate. It is an equal opportunity killer.

So I don't understand how this could be God punishing conservatives when liberals are as susceptible to the virus as conservatives are.

Disclaimer - I don't believe in God either. If there were a God why would God allow such suffering on the part of innocent people?

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Response to totodeinhere (Reply #18)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:29 PM

24. My point is turning their own reasoning on them

To Conservatives this is unthinkable and will raise their blood pressure, to Liberals it is an amusing way of trolling these idiots.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:22 PM

19. Just asking for "a friend" but if both Trump and Pence are unable to continue in their jobs ....

.... because they got C-19 wouldn't Nancy Pelosi become President?

And would that not also prove the existence of a just God too?

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Response to Botany (Reply #19)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:31 PM

25. Yep, though McConnellCo

Would prop up the corpses Weekend at Bernie’s style to avoid that.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:24 PM

20. Agree 100%!

Love the user name, btw. "The Wild Wild West" was a favorite show of mine.

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Response to Different Drummer (Reply #20)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:33 PM

26. The last of the OG Mad Scientists

And I am tempted to claim all of this is punishment for the 1999 version of WWW.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:34 PM

27. May I steal this??

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Response to gibraltar72 (Reply #27)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:50 PM

45. By all means

Help yourself.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:34 PM

28. As an atheist, I'll just do "Karma doing its work."

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:34 PM

29. Where is Brian Griffin when you need him?

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:35 PM

30. K&R

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:37 PM

32. When immediate families start dying at home......

I expect the fundies to take up public stoning. They have consistently rejected the message they claim to worship.

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Response to gordianot (Reply #32)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:40 PM

34. By then, won't they have been told/convinced by RW radio that it's all Obama's fault?

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:41 PM

35. Ezekiel 25:17

"And you will know that I am the lord"......all you lying greedy assholes.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:43 PM

36. This Buddhist says

"Hallelujah!!"

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:43 PM

37. K&R

bigly!!!

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:48 PM

38. ...

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:51 PM

39. Recommended.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 01:54 PM

41. Amen

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:23 PM

43. Pretty ugly rant

But I agree

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 02:47 PM

44. Why did God send Donald Trump to be President?

Because he ran out of locusts!

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:02 PM

46. God is punishing them because she can

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 03:27 PM

50. A bit big for a t-shirt?

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 04:45 PM

53. My thoughts and prayers are with them.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 05:22 PM

54. Hear, hear!!

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 06:10 PM

55. K&R

Thanks!

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 08:03 PM

57. 🔥 Flame bait 🔥 nt

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Response to live love laugh (Reply #57)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:17 PM

61. Why is this "flame bait"?

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 08:54 PM

58. Brilliant

 

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 08:58 PM

59. Also sowing mistrust of government while systematically

defunding and dismantling its capabilities to deal with a crisis like this.

Enjoy your Covid-19, Grover!

If there actually was a God, Paul Ryan would be Patient 0.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 09:15 PM

60. Well, "God" is force-feeding EVERYONE the same shit sandwich.

So, as the early, funny Woody Allen famously said: “If it turns out that there is a God, I don't think that he's evil. But the worst that you can say about him is that basically he's an underachiever.”

But I hear you.

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 10:32 PM

62. Amen

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sat Mar 14, 2020, 11:08 PM

63. They like to remind us now..

about Romans 13:1 "The authorities that exist have been established by God." Although they kinda forgot about that part when President Obama was in office, and during the tenure of Presidents Carter and Clinton.

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Response to Permanut (Reply #63)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 01:14 AM

64. Funny that...

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:36 AM

65. Then how comes most people are dying in Washington state

and most sick are in cities? Your God as terrible aim.



I had heard this in versions "old people were mean to the planet and now they get theirs" It's stupid. And sociopathic.
PS. I don't disagree with anything you said about the conservatives. Just the "punishment" thinghie. You sound like them.

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Response to robbedvoter (Reply #65)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 12:36 PM

67. My "God"?

Did you miss the part at the end where I explain I am an atheist mocking Christian Conservatives?

How can you be punished by someone who does not exist?

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Response to Miguelito Loveless (Original post)

Sun Mar 15, 2020, 09:50 AM

66. Thank you!

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