Who is going to take care of the unwanted children that

[efhmc]

overturning Roe V Wade will produce and why does no one ever ask that question? We know that the Ayn Rand government of R&R isn't going to give any assistance. Being made to have a child is not going to suddenly turn a woman into June Cleaver; nor will it magically provide the enormous amount of physical and emotional energy that having a baby requires. I cannot imagine the harm that outlawing abortion will produce in our society.

[CatWoman]

1. great point

[nanabugg]

21. And folks in USA seem to be eager to adopt from abroad instead of here..no matter what the problems,

[AnnieBW]

22. Because US Adoption Laws Suck

Half the time, a kid is adopted, then the mother gets her life back together and wants her baby back, and the courts side with her. Or the father, who didn't give a crap about the kid or its mother before she gave birth, decides that he wants to raise the kid, and the court sides with him. No wonder people adopt from overseas!

Of course, overseas adoption has its own problems - like baby-snatching from Third World Countries.

[Autumn]

2. They don't give a flying fuck what happens after they are born.

They just have to control the process.

[efhmc]

4. So it has absolutely nothing to do with the sacredness of life and

everything to do with controlling the receptacle of the blessed sperm.

[Autumn]

9. You have it right there

Life is not sacred to them. That child dies from hunger or medical problems they don't care, once it's out of the womb it's irrelevant and means nothing to them. Let it starve, let it freeze. let it suffer. Power and control are the only things that are sacred.

[cynatnite]

3. Children are irrelevant outside the womb as far as they are concerned. n/t

[efhmc]

6. Why are they not held to account on that important issue?

[cynatnite]

8. In their minds, there is no one to protect the zygotes except them....

They see no need to save a child after it's already born. It's messed up, but so is their thinking.

[efhmc]

12. In what universe of warped thinking does that protect life?

Really, no one can be that disconnected from facts. I think no matter how they try to spin it, this is ultimately about power; power over women.

[cynatnite]

15. Birth control was the single most important thing women got aside from the vote...

That tells you how far back they want to roll us back.

[efhmc]

18. They really are antiquated and basically uncaring people.

[Lars39]

5. Newt's orphanages will come into existence.

Another source for cannon fodder and slave labor.

[Egalitarian Thug]

31. Boy! Boy for sale! He's going cheap! n/t

[Brickbat]

7. Shoulda thought of that before you had sex, you sex-having sexy sex person.

[efhmc]

10. Wondering how that will work for men if women decide the risk outweighs the

fun and just say, "no". Well, of course, that won't matter since they have to the baby even when they did say no.

[treestar]

13. Exactly. Give back to women the job of

making sure there's no sex due to fear of pregnancy.

[treestar]

11. They think it will

They think it will motivate the girls not to have sex until they get married, or to feel pressured to get married, or to give up the baby for adoption.

[efhmc]

16. Didn't work ever. Abortion was illegal when I was in college and plenty of girls

still got pg and abortions were still done, if one had the funds.

[treestar]

36. True enough

More proof the right wing is delusional.

Why they are so concerned with the sex lives of others is one of the great mysteries. Seems they could mind their own business.

[Gregorian]

14. The prison system.

I hate to think of what being brought into this world unwanted must be like. Tragic.

[Mopar151]

17. The churches want newborns to hand out/sell for adoption

It's another revenue stream, and a way to bind prospective adoptive parents to the church.

[efhmc]

19. Those are not the babies I am worried about. I am wondering about the ones

who are not lucky enough to go to those that want them and will care for them.

[Mopar151]

20. Oh, I'm with you

`Same deal with food banks & other "faith-based charities" - many within the churches only want to aid the "deserving", i.e. the ones who dance to their tune.....

[efhmc]

24. Was so angry with the only food bank in this rw, poor town which is run by

mostly Baptists. When I asked why the form people have to fill out had questions about ones religion and if they wanted people to call on them, etc., I hit the ceiling. I was told, "They don't have to say yes to get food, etc." They totally did not understand how offensive those questions were. When I lived in Houston, no one asked any questions about religion and or pushed religion in any way. We just wanted to make sure the food went to those in need.

[AnnieBW]

23. I hate to say it, but...

We're going to find a lot more abandoned infants, and a lot more babies in dumpsters. It breaks my heart when that happens, but it's the hard reality of the situation.

[efhmc]

25. I am thinking the same thing. Also, more injured or dead moms.

[Skittles]

26. NO ONE - that is your PUNISHMENT!!!!!!!!!

[efhmc]

27. Unfortunately, it's also the child's.

[booksenkatz]

28. Making abortion illegal doesn't save too many babies, but....

I guarantee you that more women will die.

[efhmc]

29. If they don't care what happens to actual babies once they are born,

you can be sure they do not care about their incubators.

[Confusious]

30. nobody

plain and simple.

RW cares all about you 'till you're born, then you can go fuck yourself. Eat shit, kid.

[Burma Jones]

32. Prisons.......or Death Squads

[Major Nikon]

33. It's a mistake to believe Republicans give a shit about children

If Republicans really gave a shit about children, they would support things like Medicaid/SCHIP, and other poverty programs which raise kids out of poverty. In some areas of the US, the infant mortality rate rivals 3rd world countries. You don't see too many Republican church ladies marching for those kids.

The real reason Republicans are anti-abortion is because it's a method of controlling women. They are against abortion and birth control because they want to keep women's legs closed and if they don't they want debilitating consequences.

[spinbaby]

34. Are there no prisons?

Are there no workhouses?



The clerk, in letting Scrooge's nephew out, had let two other people in. They were portly gentlemen, pleasant to behold, and now stood, with their hats off, in Scrooge's office. They had books and papers in their hands, and bowed to him.

'Scrooge and Marley's, I believe,' said one of the gentlemen, referring to his list. 'Have I the pleasure of addressing Mr Scrooge, or Mr Marley?'

'Mr Marley has been dead these seven years,' Scrooge replied. 'He died seven years ago, this very night.'

'We have no doubt his liberality is well represented by his surviving partner,' said the gentleman, presenting his credentials.

'It certainly was, for they had been two kindred spirits. At the ominous word liberality, Scrooge frowned, and shook his head, and handed the credentials back.

'They are. Still,' returned the gentleman,' I wish I could say they were not.'

'The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour, then?' said Scrooge.

'At this festive season of the year, Mr Scrooge,' said the gentleman, taking up a pen, 'it is more than usually desirable that we should make some slight provision for the Poor and destitute, who suffer greatly at the present time. Many thousands are in want of common necessaries; hundreds of thousands are in want of common comforts, sir.'
'Are there no prisons?"

'Plenty of prisons,' said the gentleman, laying down the pen again.

'And the Union workhouses.' demanded Scrooge. 'Are they still in operation?'

'Both very busy, sir.'

'Oh. I was afraid, from what you said at first, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,' said Scrooge. 'I'm very glad to hear it.'

'Under the impression that they scarcely furnish Christian cheer of mind or body to the multitude,' returned the gentleman, 'a few of us are endeavouring to raise a fund to buy the Poor some meat and drink, and means of warmth. We choose this time, because it is a time, of all others, when Want is keenly felt, and Abundance rejoices. What shall I put you down for?'

'Nothing!' Scrooge replied.

'You wish to be anonymous?'

'I wish to be left alone,' said Scrooge. 'Since you ask me what I wish, gentlemen, that is my answer. I don't make merry myself at Christmas and I can't afford to make idle people merry. I help to support the establishments I have mentioned-they cost enough; and those who are badly off must go there.'

'Many can't go there; and many would rather die.'

'If they would rather die,' said Scrooge, 'they had better do it, and decrease the surplus population."

[Ineeda]

35. They'll be kept desperate and hopeless and ignorant

and then they'll become cannon fodder when they're eighteen.