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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsHorrifying cartoon of Greta Thunberg being sexually assaulted linked to Canadian oil company
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The sticker was allegedly being handed out at job sites to be worn on hard hats, and was circulating among X-Site Energy Services employees last week with the knowledge of one of the managers.
Said manager reportedly responded to the complaint by saying that Thunberg "wasn't a child"... which seems somewhat irrelevant.
Thunberg responded in her characteristically measured way, tweeting that this shows she and her cause are winning.
Link to tweet
This has now escalated to the point of images of sexual violence, which is clearly worrying.
It's also heavily gendered one can only wonder whether a male activist would be subject to such horrifying treatment and conclude that likely not.
[link:https://www.indy100.com/article/greta-thunberg-cartoon-rape-x-site-canada-oil-energy-company-9369046|]
What grown arsed man would think that this was OK? And not just the wanker that produced this, but anyone who put it on their hardhat etc...
johnthewoodworker
(694 posts)Hillary was right when she used the term deplorables.
Orrex
(63,199 posts)They are a cult of idiot racist fuckheads.
jimfields33
(15,763 posts)applegrove
(118,600 posts)Ever since oil was discouvered.
jimmil
(629 posts)What can one say? This actually makes me hurt for mankind.
Locrian
(4,522 posts)What sick person looks around and decides they *want* to be the villain / bad guy, etc?
knightmaar
(748 posts)Could be any Greta, doncha know?
Might be an *adult* named Greta they mean to depict getting raped.
How can we be sure what girl-with-braids named Greta the oil patch assholes are thinking of raping?
RVN VET71
(2,690 posts)I mean serious light, photos, videos, showing the dorks who are wearing the things. Seeking out these helmeted geldings and interviewing them in public, why are you wearing that on your helmet? Would you mind awfully much if a dozen or so dudes walked in here with a cartoon of your mum getting raped? Your sister? Your daughter?
Who is the manager who said it's all OK because she's 17? I'd love to see his ignorant phiz on a sticker -- and I won't describe the incident it would depict.
Dig it: I don't care if this was about some inspirational little girl who loved oil and denied climate change. If anyone puts up a sticker so blatantly disgusting and revolting about the rape of a woman or girl, I'd like to be the one with the urn of dog feces to dump on their head. It is, of course, especially disgusting that some vile swine would choose to pick on a young woman who has focused her life on combatting what she truly believes -- because science!! -- is likely to be the death of us all.
End of rant.
Response to Soph0571 (Original post)
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Are you being serious here?
braddy
(3,585 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,425 posts)LuckyCharms
(17,425 posts)of a barely turned 17 year old girl, a climate change activist, is the company indicating that they are "making love" to her? Is that what you are implying?
Or, might it be more reasonable to assume that the oil company is controlling, fucking, raping, abusing this 17 year old girl? Is this type of thing what you consider to be "normal sex"?
cwydro
(51,308 posts)I was still trying to wrap my head around that post.
Wow.
Ms. Toad
(34,060 posts)It is obviously offensive, and intended as sexual humiliation since she is depicted as naked. For that, alone, it deserves condemnation.
But I don't see any other person, other than hands on her pigtails, not do I see any penetration by the sign (nothing from the sign protrudes where she is sitting - both the upright from the T and the crossbar are at the outside of her right hip, not her anus). When I first saw these reports yesterday, I expected to find a protruding top of the T or something right where she was sitting.
What am I missing? I'm usually the one explaining why an image depicts rape to others who don't see it.
TwilightZone
(25,456 posts)It would seem that the answer to your question is right in the middle of your post.
I think redqueen covered this well, so I'll let her take it from here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213035952#post20
Ms. Toad
(34,060 posts)It appeared to me that she was perched on top of the sign. From that perspective, pulling in her pigtails looked more like the grade school bully dipping the pigtails of the girl in the unwell -or just yanking on them.
With the suggestion that she is on her knees, the image is dramatically different - like the picture that can be seen as an older woman -or a younger one, depending on whether you look at the positive space or the negative. I was viewing this from the perspective that I was looking from behind at a vertically oriented scene -not as from a bird's eye view looking down on a woman in her knees.
ETA: redqueen's explanation would not have flipped the perspective for me. Rejecting excuses for bad behavior doesn't help someone who is only seeing the old lady see the young one.
obamanut2012
(26,067 posts)JFC just stop.
dawn5651
(603 posts)braddy
(3,585 posts)I married a 17 year old, a person can enlist in the Royal Marines and be in their second year of elite military service at age 17.
redqueen
(115,103 posts)Link to tweet
Hopefully the next time something like this happens you will reconsider speaking before thinking.
RandiFan1290
(6,229 posts)He disrupted poorly
LakeArenal
(28,814 posts)Was you 17 year old wifes image posted on anything, naked without her consent.
cwydro
(51,308 posts)But surely you know that?
Cant believe Im reading this crap here.
Skittles
(153,142 posts)B Stieg
(2,410 posts)but bad, biased people are where you find them, unfortunately.
dawn5651
(603 posts)DBoon
(22,354 posts)It's oil country, with all the macho attitudes and reactionary politics
man camp with meth problems. It's a culture in oil fields.
lyvwyr101
(6 posts)This is how low these people are. Abominable.
Jakes Progress
(11,122 posts)The post above was right. Hillary was way to kind.
zentrum
(9,865 posts).....destroying the planet.
Ms. Toad
(34,060 posts)The cartoon is obviously gross, I appropriate, childish, etc.
But I cannot see rape in it, let alone "violent" rape. It appears to me that she is sitting on the logo, naked, with no other person visible, and no part of the logo that protrudes into her vagina or anus.
It took me quite a while to find a visual of the sticker - and I'm obviously not seeing what everyone else is seeing. Which is surlrising, since I'm constantly being told that I am imagining things that are, to me, clearly acts of sexual violence.
Mendocino
(7,486 posts)Did you not see the hands holding her by her pigtails?
Ms. Toad
(34,060 posts)But I still see nothing that suggests penetration.
I spent 10 years as a rape crisis counselor, I am a rape survivor, was a co-founder of a WAVAW chapter, and co-author of a slide show that made the sexual violence that is embedded in advertisements explicit by comparison to violent pornographic images.
In other words, I have lots of experience in this realm -and I don't a sexual act in this sticker.
(I am NOT suggesting the image shouldn't provoke outrage. But, unless I'm m missing something, I think rape overstates it.)
ETA: Thanks to a poster below, I now recognize it was a perspective issue. What I was not seeing was that this was a bird's eye view. It appeared to me that she was sitting perched on top of their logo (which I was viewing from behind, not above)
lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)I think it might have to with the following:
1. Greta identified by name
2. Naked facing away from the viewer and on her knees
3. Two hands grabbing her iconic pigtails with the implication that she is being sexually penetrated in this position ( pulling of the hair is sexually dominant )
4. the implication of the placement of the logo is that it ( the company ) is sexually penetrating her from behind using their hands to keep her submissive by pulling her pigtails.
I would infer rape because of her unlikely willingness to have sex with an oil company.
She is 17, so in the US, this would be considered statutory rape in most states.
Anal versus vaginal isn't depicted as far as I can tell... I don't think that matters.
Clearly this is an image meant to sexually humiliate an underage climate activist... one who has gained the attention of the world with her protest that the adults (collectively) are trashing the world for her generation.
I think she handled it quite well, as she does with so many world leaders who have dismissed or tried to humiliate her in the past.
Ms. Toad
(34,060 posts)Was that she was on her knees. It appeared to me that she was sitting on top of the logo (with the only protrusion from the sign at the outside of her right hip, nowhere near her anus or vagina). That gives it a different perspective.
Thank you for the clarification.
Ahpook
(2,749 posts)Ponytails being pulled?
That is a new low even for these freaks. They have to answer for this. It has to be!