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Soph0571

(9,685 posts)
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 07:46 AM Mar 2020

Horrifying cartoon of Greta Thunberg being sexually assaulted linked to Canadian oil company

An explicit cartoon of 17-year-old Greta Thunberg being raped has been spotted with the branding of a Canadian oil company on it.
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The sticker was allegedly being handed out at job sites to be worn on hard hats, and was circulating among X-Site Energy Services employees last week with the knowledge of one of the managers.

Said manager reportedly responded to the complaint by saying that Thunberg "wasn't a child"... which seems somewhat irrelevant.

Thunberg responded in her characteristically measured way, tweeting that this shows she and her cause are winning.


This has now escalated to the point of images of sexual violence, which is clearly worrying.
It's also heavily gendered – one can only wonder whether a male activist would be subject to such horrifying treatment and conclude that likely not.

[link:https://www.indy100.com/article/greta-thunberg-cartoon-rape-x-site-canada-oil-energy-company-9369046|]

What grown arsed man would think that this was OK? And not just the wanker that produced this, but anyone who put it on their hardhat etc...


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Horrifying cartoon of Greta Thunberg being sexually assaulted linked to Canadian oil company (Original Post) Soph0571 Mar 2020 OP
This is the kind of crap Trumpers thrive on. johnthewoodworker Mar 2020 #1
Hillary was being kind Orrex Mar 2020 #5
It's Canada. jimfields33 Mar 2020 #28
GOP incubates little followers in Alberta. They've been doing it for generations. applegrove Mar 2020 #36
My God..... jimmil Mar 2020 #2
WTF? wow Locrian Mar 2020 #3
And the goddamn RCMP won't prosecute because "Greta" doesn't necessarily mean *this* Greta knightmaar Mar 2020 #4
Bring light to bear on these cretins RVN VET71 Mar 2020 #7
Post removed Post removed Mar 2020 #6
Wtf? cwydro Mar 2020 #9
Yes, how did rape get attached to the drawing? How does someone see rape in it? braddy Mar 2020 #10
The intent of the drawing of and the message it sends makes it a rape depiction. LuckyCharms Mar 2020 #11
PS...Are you saying that an oil company using this picture LuckyCharms Mar 2020 #15
Thank you. cwydro Mar 2020 #22
I see naked - but I don't see sex at all. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #25
"other than hands on her pigtails" TwilightZone Mar 2020 #30
The clarification below was helpful. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #35
She is being forcibly and violenty anally raped -- I saw the image obamanut2012 Mar 2020 #21
since the child in this disgusting sticker is 17 years old dawn5651 Mar 2020 #12
My wife was 17, age of consent in Sweden is 15, my brother enlisted at 17 I served with 17 year olds braddy Mar 2020 #16
Here. Jesus fucking Christ I am so fucking sick and tired of excuse makers. redqueen Mar 2020 #20
Buh... bye RandiFan1290 Mar 2020 #24
WTH does your wife being 17 have to do with anything. LakeArenal Mar 2020 #29
Rape has nothing to do with a person's age. cwydro Mar 2020 #34
what does that have to do with ANYTHING? Skittles Mar 2020 #37
Love the North... B Stieg Mar 2020 #8
the rcmp is full of it...google the name of the oil and gas company and that sticker comes up dawn5651 Mar 2020 #13
Think of Alberta as Oklahoma with really cold weather DBoon Mar 2020 #17
And a big 2naSalit Mar 2020 #26
Horrible lyvwyr101 Mar 2020 #14
Not deplorable. Basket of Despicables Jakes Progress Mar 2020 #18
Killing their own children by zentrum Mar 2020 #19
So help me out here. Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #23
"no other person visible" Mendocino Mar 2020 #27
That suggests restraint Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #32
Lets see... lapfog_1 Mar 2020 #31
What was not apparent to me Ms. Toad Mar 2020 #33
I think I just saw the cartoon Ahpook Mar 2020 #38

applegrove

(118,600 posts)
36. GOP incubates little followers in Alberta. They've been doing it for generations.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 03:44 PM
Mar 2020

Ever since oil was discouvered.

knightmaar

(748 posts)
4. And the goddamn RCMP won't prosecute because "Greta" doesn't necessarily mean *this* Greta
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 08:58 AM
Mar 2020

Could be any Greta, doncha know?

Might be an *adult* named Greta they mean to depict getting raped.

How can we be sure what girl-with-braids named Greta the oil patch assholes are thinking of raping?

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
7. Bring light to bear on these cretins
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:21 AM
Mar 2020

I mean serious light, photos, videos, showing the dorks who are wearing the things. Seeking out these helmeted geldings and interviewing them in public, why are you wearing that on your helmet? Would you mind awfully much if a dozen or so dudes walked in here with a cartoon of your mum getting raped? Your sister? Your daughter?

Who is the manager who said it's all OK because she's 17? I'd love to see his ignorant phiz on a sticker -- and I won't describe the incident it would depict.

Dig it: I don't care if this was about some inspirational little girl who loved oil and denied climate change. If anyone puts up a sticker so blatantly disgusting and revolting about the rape of a woman or girl, I'd like to be the one with the urn of dog feces to dump on their head. It is, of course, especially disgusting that some vile swine would choose to pick on a young woman who has focused her life on combatting what she truly believes -- because science!! -- is likely to be the death of us all.

End of rant.

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

LuckyCharms

(17,425 posts)
15. PS...Are you saying that an oil company using this picture
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:50 AM
Mar 2020

of a barely turned 17 year old girl, a climate change activist, is the company indicating that they are "making love" to her? Is that what you are implying?

Or, might it be more reasonable to assume that the oil company is controlling, fucking, raping, abusing this 17 year old girl? Is this type of thing what you consider to be "normal sex"?

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
25. I see naked - but I don't see sex at all.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 11:57 AM
Mar 2020

It is obviously offensive, and intended as sexual humiliation since she is depicted as naked. For that, alone, it deserves condemnation.

But I don't see any other person, other than hands on her pigtails, not do I see any penetration by the sign (nothing from the sign protrudes where she is sitting - both the upright from the T and the crossbar are at the outside of her right hip, not her anus). When I first saw these reports yesterday, I expected to find a protruding top of the T or something right where she was sitting.

What am I missing? I'm usually the one explaining why an image depicts rape to others who don't see it.

TwilightZone

(25,456 posts)
30. "other than hands on her pigtails"
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:22 PM
Mar 2020

It would seem that the answer to your question is right in the middle of your post.

I think redqueen covered this well, so I'll let her take it from here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100213035952#post20

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
35. The clarification below was helpful.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:51 PM
Mar 2020

It appeared to me that she was perched on top of the sign. From that perspective, pulling in her pigtails looked more like the grade school bully dipping the pigtails of the girl in the unwell -or just yanking on them.

With the suggestion that she is on her knees, the image is dramatically different - like the picture that can be seen as an older woman -or a younger one, depending on whether you look at the positive space or the negative. I was viewing this from the perspective that I was looking from behind at a vertically oriented scene -not as from a bird's eye view looking down on a woman in her knees.

ETA: redqueen's explanation would not have flipped the perspective for me. Rejecting excuses for bad behavior doesn't help someone who is only seeing the old lady see the young one.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
16. My wife was 17, age of consent in Sweden is 15, my brother enlisted at 17 I served with 17 year olds
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:51 AM
Mar 2020

I married a 17 year old, a person can enlist in the Royal Marines and be in their second year of elite military service at age 17.



redqueen

(115,103 posts)
20. Here. Jesus fucking Christ I am so fucking sick and tired of excuse makers.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 10:35 AM
Mar 2020



Hopefully the next time something like this happens you will reconsider speaking before thinking.

LakeArenal

(28,814 posts)
29. WTH does your wife being 17 have to do with anything.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:16 PM
Mar 2020

Was you 17 year old wife’s image posted on anything, naked without her consent.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
34. Rape has nothing to do with a person's age.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:47 PM
Mar 2020

But surely you know that?

Can’t believe I’m reading this crap here.

DBoon

(22,354 posts)
17. Think of Alberta as Oklahoma with really cold weather
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:56 AM
Mar 2020

It's oil country, with all the macho attitudes and reactionary politics

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
23. So help me out here.
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 11:38 AM
Mar 2020

The cartoon is obviously gross, I appropriate, childish, etc.

But I cannot see rape in it, let alone "violent" rape. It appears to me that she is sitting on the logo, naked, with no other person visible, and no part of the logo that protrudes into her vagina or anus.

It took me quite a while to find a visual of the sticker - and I'm obviously not seeing what everyone else is seeing. Which is surlrising, since I'm constantly being told that I am imagining things that are, to me, clearly acts of sexual violence.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
32. That suggests restraint
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:36 PM
Mar 2020

But I still see nothing that suggests penetration.

I spent 10 years as a rape crisis counselor, I am a rape survivor, was a co-founder of a WAVAW chapter, and co-author of a slide show that made the sexual violence that is embedded in advertisements explicit by comparison to violent pornographic images.

In other words, I have lots of experience in this realm -and I don't a sexual act in this sticker.

(I am NOT suggesting the image shouldn't provoke outrage. But, unless I'm m missing something, I think rape overstates it.)

ETA: Thanks to a poster below, I now recognize it was a perspective issue. What I was not seeing was that this was a bird's eye view. It appeared to me that she was sitting perched on top of their logo (which I was viewing from behind, not above)

lapfog_1

(29,199 posts)
31. Lets see...
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:24 PM
Mar 2020

I think it might have to with the following:

1. Greta identified by name
2. Naked facing away from the viewer and on her knees
3. Two hands grabbing her iconic pigtails with the implication that she is being sexually penetrated in this position ( pulling of the hair is sexually dominant )
4. the implication of the placement of the logo is that it ( the company ) is sexually penetrating her from behind using their hands to keep her submissive by pulling her pigtails.

I would infer rape because of her unlikely willingness to have sex with an oil company.
She is 17, so in the US, this would be considered statutory rape in most states.

Anal versus vaginal isn't depicted as far as I can tell... I don't think that matters.

Clearly this is an image meant to sexually humiliate an underage climate activist... one who has gained the attention of the world with her protest that the adults (collectively) are trashing the world for her generation.

I think she handled it quite well, as she does with so many world leaders who have dismissed or tried to humiliate her in the past.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
33. What was not apparent to me
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 12:42 PM
Mar 2020

Was that she was on her knees. It appeared to me that she was sitting on top of the logo (with the only protrusion from the sign at the outside of her right hip, nowhere near her anus or vagina). That gives it a different perspective.

Thank you for the clarification.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
38. I think I just saw the cartoon
Mon Mar 2, 2020, 09:39 PM
Mar 2020

Ponytails being pulled?

That is a new low even for these freaks. They have to answer for this. It has to be!

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