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How likely is it that some countries will lie about the level of coronavirus infection? (Original Post) milestogo Feb 2020 OP
Well, the U.S. for starters. Sneederbunk Feb 2020 #1
+1. n/t rzemanfl Feb 2020 #3
That was going to be my answer. llmart Feb 2020 #4
Oh, absolutely, trying to prevent panic Warpy Feb 2020 #8
I am uninterested in any information put out by Red China or Iran, I ignore their numbers and data. braddy Feb 2020 #2
I find Russia unrealistic. 33taw Feb 2020 #5
Every single one run by a dictator/autocrat or wannabe of the same IS already lying. RockRaven Feb 2020 #6
Didn't Trump claim 15 cases in the US yesterday? Kingofalldems Feb 2020 #7
PBS Newshour said 60 I believe Mountain Mule Feb 2020 #9
So he lied. Kingofalldems Feb 2020 #10
Yeah, what a surprise, right? Mountain Mule Feb 2020 #13
And the US has done very little testing milestogo Feb 2020 #15
Johns Hopkins is tracking 60 cases in the US PA Democrat Feb 2020 #16
I am guessing they are the cases that were detected in the US. All but one travelled to China. 33taw Feb 2020 #21
China already has, and so did Trump, Pence and procon Feb 2020 #11
very likely...does anyone believe China locked down millions of people for a 'harmless' virus? Demsrule86 Feb 2020 #12
Does anyone believe the number of new cases in China Mariana Feb 2020 #20
Pretty likely here. Trump is lying on twitter right now spanone Feb 2020 #14
How likely is it that the Pope is a member of the Catholic Church? Wounded Bear Feb 2020 #17
I have a very hard time believing the numbers from China. nt. Mariana Feb 2020 #18
I never believe anything from China's official channels. milestogo Feb 2020 #19
I don't believe North Korea has 0 cases. 33taw Feb 2020 #22
I know it's happening, DPRK is an example, more will follow Demonaut Feb 2020 #23

Warpy

(110,903 posts)
8. Oh, absolutely, trying to prevent panic
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:35 PM
Feb 2020

under the cover of quarantine laws that whisk sick people off to quarantine in godawful conditions while doing nothing to prevent the spread.

Indonesia: They've stated that the disease has been prayed away, that there are no cases there. Think those old boys are going to admit that their prayers are useless? Or that Allah isn't listening?

North Korea: Kind of speaks for itself.

Russia: has a history of not admitting anything it isn't forced to.

Many African countries: See Indonesia.

Some in the "maybe" column, countries with strongmen who don't want to look bad: Philippines, Argentina, Brazil, Turkey. Afghanistan just because it's so disorganized. Syria because it's at war with itself. Not including the 'stans in Central Asia because some of them are far better than we think they are and a all of them are a little better than we think they are.

I honestly think the Chinese have been forthcoming with what they know. This is a new virus and much is unknown about its main method of transmission, whether or not the virus persists after people recover, whether or not people are still contagious after recovery and how, plus a host of other questions In addition, they have a huge population of people without much access to health care except the folk medicine that likely started the problem and people with light cases or even no symptoms who are blowing the whole thing off while infecting others. Nobody knows at this point how many cases there really are because they can't afford to test everybody.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
2. I am uninterested in any information put out by Red China or Iran, I ignore their numbers and data.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:08 PM
Feb 2020

RockRaven

(14,782 posts)
6. Every single one run by a dictator/autocrat or wannabe of the same IS already lying.
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:19 PM
Feb 2020

And some countries are totally asleep at the wheel/blind because of lack of resources/infrastructure.

And some countries are doing everything that could be expected, but they're still missing cases because that is just the nature of the situation.

So everything we've seen and heard in terms of case numbers and geographic spread are undercounting BY A MILE (yes, I know the units don't match).

33taw

(2,420 posts)
21. I am guessing they are the cases that were detected in the US. All but one travelled to China.
Fri Feb 28, 2020, 01:10 AM
Feb 2020

The other 45 are from the cruise ship and others that contracted it in China and were flown to the US. I believe they are house two Air Force bases. Trump is trying to make it look as small as possible.

Mariana

(14,849 posts)
20. Does anyone believe the number of new cases in China
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 11:01 PM
Feb 2020

is as low as they've been saying? It doesn't make sense.

spanone

(135,632 posts)
14. Pretty likely here. Trump is lying on twitter right now
Thu Feb 27, 2020, 10:40 PM
Feb 2020


Do Nothing Democrats were busy wasting their time on the Impeachment Hoax, & anything they could do to make the Republican Party look bad, while I was busy calling early boarder & flight closings, putting us way ahead in our battle with the Coronavirus. Dems called it very wrong!



He just added this tweet full of carnival barker bullshit...



Congratulations and thank you to our great Vice President & all of the many professionals doing such a fine job at CDC & all other agencies on the Coronavirus situation. Only a very small number in U.S., & China numbers look to be going down. All countries working well together!
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