Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:12 PM

Why don't Sanders or Warren say that universal healthcare would liberate people from their boss?

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Seriously, employer-based healthcare will always keep the worker subservient. If workers had an affordable way to get quality healthcare regardless of their job status, that would go a long way towards liberating the working class from their corporate overlords.

Yes, we need affordable care for all. But most people don’t ever experience medical bankruptcy. Most, however few like they must shut their mouth at work for fear of their healthcare.

Time to liberate the people from employer-based care if they want.

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Why don't Sanders or Warren say that universal healthcare would liberate people from their boss? (Original post)	OrlandoDem2	Feb 2020	OP
They have said that	Raven123	Feb 2020	#1
Thanks. I didn't know that. I follow the news and I rarely see that angle promoted.	OrlandoDem2	Feb 2020	#5
The health industry profiteers are spending millions to scare people,	guillaumeb	Feb 2020	#2
That argument has been made.	Caliman73	Feb 2020	#3
" Time to liberate the people from employer-based care if they want."	AncientGeezer	Feb 2020	#4
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING	Omaha Steve	Feb 2020	#6

Response to OrlandoDem2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:14 PM

Raven123 (2,903 posts)

1. They have said that

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Response to Raven123 (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:38 PM

OrlandoDem2 (1,700 posts)

5. Thanks. I didn't know that. I follow the news and I rarely see that angle promoted.

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Response to OrlandoDem2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:15 PM

guillaumeb (42,638 posts)

2. The health industry profiteers are spending millions to scare people,

and trying to attack MFA as unworkable.

MFA works in every country that has it, and the US system is a mess, where profit always comes before people.

Plus, the health care industries make billions in campaign contributions, also called free speech.

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Response to OrlandoDem2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:21 PM

Caliman73 (9,772 posts)

3. That argument has been made.

It was actually also a bit of a selling point for the ACA.

Actually 66.5% of bankruptcies by individuals is a result of medical expenses. https://www.cnbc.com/2019/02/11/this-is-the-real-reason-most-americans-file-for-bankruptcy.html

You can have medical insurance, even decent insurance, and still have medical expenses that are more than you can afford.

I agree that the freedom of movement that a national healthcare payment system would create would be very helpful to people.

Both Sanders and Warren have repeated that information in speeches regularly. It likely isn't picked up too much by the media since a lot of the advertising revenue they get is from the pharmaceutical industry, private insurers, etc...

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Response to OrlandoDem2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:30 PM

AncientGeezer (2,146 posts)

4. " Time to liberate the people from employer-based care if they want."

Problem is...it's not an "if they want" option. It's mandatory...and you know that.

The VAST majority of insured people have employer based insurance....and don't hate it....tweaked yeah...eliminated....let's call off the election and hand it to the Dumpster....that's what it'll be...

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Response to OrlandoDem2 (Original post)

Mon Feb 24, 2020, 06:43 PM

Omaha Steve (85,555 posts)

6. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING

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