Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:44 PM
paulkienitz (1,019 posts)
I think I am coming up with a one-sentence definition of fascism.
Over the last three years, I've had to put a lot of study into the nature of just what fascism is. I've had to conclude that it is quite distinct from authoritarianism, though naturally they overlap frequently. What exactly qualifies someone, or some movement, as fascist? I think the essence of it is the division of the populace into "right people" and "wrong people". Here is my definition:
Fascism is the advocacy of privileging one cultural group above other cultural groups within a populace, both through the power of the state and through extralegal means. Any group that uses "blood and soil" arguments -- that is, saying that a given area of land rightfully belongs to one ethnic group and other groups should have lesser rights there -- qualifies as fascist, if the movement is willing to use forceful coercion to obtain such an end. It does not matter if they are otherwise not authoritarian. Willingness to use threats and violence is part of the requirement. If a group claims that they have special rights to something but is willing to use only nonviolent protests, they aren't fascist. Communist regimes -- no matter how totalitarian -- generally do not qualify as fascist, because communism lumps all of the people into a single cultural group to suffer equally. Democratically elected regimes do qualify as fascist if they allow some kinds of people the right to vote but not others. Nationalism is closely related to fascism, but a distinction can be drawn.
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paulkienitz | Feb 2020 | OP |
InAbLuEsTaTe | Feb 2020 | #1 | |
paulkienitz | Feb 2020 | #2 | |
Caliman73 | Feb 2020 | #3 | |
paulkienitz | Feb 2020 | #4 | |
Caliman73 | Feb 2020 | #7 | |
paulkienitz | Feb 2020 | #5 | |
Wounded Bear | Feb 2020 | #6 |
Response to paulkienitz (Original post)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:46 PM
InAbLuEsTaTe (23,138 posts)
1. I have a one-word definition of fascism: tRump!!
Response to InAbLuEsTaTe (Reply #1)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:51 PM
paulkienitz (1,019 posts)
2. well, that's harder to generalize from.
Response to paulkienitz (Original post)
Fri Feb 21, 2020, 06:52 PM
Caliman73 (7,272 posts)
3. Here is a simple but I think good description of Fascism.
I am not sure if we will get to a one sentence description though I applaud your efforts.
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Response to Caliman73 (Reply #3)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 01:27 PM
paulkienitz (1,019 posts)
4. "Palingenetic Ultranationalism" is, I think, a subset of my definition
Response to paulkienitz (Reply #4)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 10:45 PM
Caliman73 (7,272 posts)
7. It is a suicide cult
They try to define an "us" that can never truly be defined, fight for power, and even if they achieve it, they can never be at peace and eventually will consumer each other.
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 06:39 PM
paulkienitz (1,019 posts)
5. I think I'll tweak it a bit
Let's change the final words from "extralegal means" to "extralegal aggression".
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Response to paulkienitz (Original post)
Sat Feb 22, 2020, 07:33 PM
Wounded Bear (42,218 posts)
6. I always say fascism is the melding of corporate and political power...
The racism and nationalism are just tools to attain the supremacy of corporate power.
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