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California Takes Revenge on Trump
People leaving the Golden State are changing the political makeup of the states they move to.
By Timothy Egan, Contributing Opinion Writer, NY Times
Feb. 14, 2020
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/14/opinion/california-revenge-trump.html
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President Trump clearly hates the most populous state in the country he governs. While trashing California with his gutter mouth, the president has used his office to physically trash the home to nearly one in eight Americans seeking to make its air more polluted, its water less clean, its forests more vulnerable to catastrophic fires.
But now the Golden State is poised to strike back. By moving its presidential primary from June to March 3, California will finally exert a political influence commensurate to its size. Almost 500 delegates, a fourth of the number needed to win the Democratic nomination, are at stake.
Perhaps more consequential or at least overlooked is whats happening among the vast diaspora of more than 7.3 million people who have left California since 2007. They appear to be changing the political makeup of the states theyve moved to, perhaps enough to alter the Electoral College map in favor of Democrats.
With nearly 40 million people, California is still gaining population barely. But stratospheric home prices and unbearable rental costs have created a reverse Grapes of Wrath, forcing those who are not rich to flee to states with much lower costs of living.
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UniteFightBack
(8,231 posts)2naSalit
(86,307 posts)And with a little help, we have a Senate seat that could be flipped this year and add yet another D to the Senate. There are four Dem challengers and nobody from the national is helping us.
So...
Demovictory9
(32,417 posts)spread that blue around!!
SunSeeker
(51,502 posts)It seems everyone wants to live here, particularly along the coast.
The poor, and most middle class people, can't afford the home prices nor the rent. They've been priced out by the rich who moved here and drove the prices up (supply and demand at work).
Glad there's a silver lining to losing all those people.
Hekate
(90,517 posts)SunSeeker
(51,502 posts)From the article:
Hopefully these folks remember that when they go to the polls in their new states. It would be sublime karmic justice.
msongs
(67,343 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,584 posts)if we turn Texas blue, the Repubs wouldn't win the White House for a generation.
Scotch-Irish
(464 posts)I'd love to see Texas turn a really really brilliant shade of blue!!!
dustyscamp
(2,223 posts)Take a bunch of magats from a red state and have them relocate to a battleground state
yuiyoshida
(41,818 posts)unless forced to. I love this state...I love my city. I suppose if I had no choice I would probably live in San Diego..as a second place to settle. Third choice is Las Vegas. at least my Raiders would be there!
Demovictory9
(32,417 posts)weather on the planet.
patricia92243
(12,591 posts)more people here in Florida. NC where I am from is also getting more. More people means more diversity.
Mr.Bill
(24,228 posts)Just not along the coast or in the major population centers. I'm in a northern inland county and we can afford retirement on a modest budget here. No need to leave the state.
My motto is California is not a place. It is many places.
I'm in NorCal too, and retired, but my lifestyle would be untenable in SoCal. If I couldn't live here, my choice would be the PNW.
Rollo
(2,559 posts)Although the best move I made in the 90's was to buy a house, and the despite reduced income from the Bush economy and a career change, I was able to pay it off two years ago. Still, I'm noticing a lot of the other necessities of life: food, gas, power, entertainment, etc... are higher in this area (East Bay) than in much of the rest of the nation.
Don't want to leave, though.
Hekate
(90,517 posts)The question is: Are they bringing California values fierce defense of the environment, tolerance of immigrants and a multiracial society, insistence on universal health care with them? It could be just demographic churn. But if you look at the changing politics of Nevada, Colorado and Arizona, all fast-growing states packed with new arrivals from California, the answer is yes. Texas may not be far behind.
applegrove
(118,456 posts)to share.
2naSalit
(86,307 posts)Many of our transplants from CA are repguniclans. The good thing is, many don't actually vote here, but they don't pay property taxes either for some reason.
lunatica
(53,410 posts)Im glad to be part of Trumps and the Republicans next nightmare.
Yavin4
(35,409 posts)You can build a Silicon Valley any where. Same is true for Hollywood.
Mr.Bill
(24,228 posts)It's actually a shame they did build it there. Some of the finest farm and orchard land in the world and they paved it and built business parks everywhere.
dhill926
(16,302 posts)but we love Key West more. 2 strong dem votes in Florida this fall.
Demovictory9
(32,417 posts)to rightwing states. That's not it. We don't consider California to be trashed. its the home prices mostly, sometimes the traffic in LA... both signs of the desire to live in LA.
Sedona
(3,769 posts)Also known as Yallywood.
Me and Mr Sedona hail from Culver City and the South Bay.
We both still have our 310 cell#'s
He's a 25 year union grip dept rigging pro (IATSE 80 & 425)
I'm a Realtor who easily made the transition.
My mortgage payment on a 2000 sq ft house on 1/2 an acre in dark blue (my congress critter is Lucy Mcbath) Dekalb County is the same as the rent on my shitty 630 sq ft apt off Venice Blvd.
If your looking to make the move to the ATL give me a shout. I specialize in relocations and have great refernces from film biz pros and military.
Lets turn the rest of Geogia blue!
Cartoonist
(7,309 posts)Paraphrasing Yogi
mnhtnbb
(31,370 posts)between Santa Monica and Pacific Palisades in 1988. Never looked back. He was a native Californian, born in Palo Alto, and I'm a native New Yorker who moved with my Republican parents to California in 1965 when my dad retired.
We first moved to Missouri when we left CA in 1988; then to Nebraska in 1994; we ended up in North Carolina (Chapel Hill) in 2000. My husband died in 2018--killing himself--while we were in the process of divorcing. I could move just about anywhere. I have chosen to stay in NC (although I did move from very blue Chapel Hill to slightly less blue Raleigh) and would never think of going back to California.
If I move again, it might be to a lakeview in the mountains of NC, or to Hawaii, or out of the country entirely. That decision will be made pending the outcome of the election in November.
At this point, I'd rather stay right where I am. I will be early voting this week in the NC primary because I will be out of town on Super Tuesday.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)2018 was the first evidence of it.
Dems won all major state offices and cut the Repuke majorities in the state legislature.
We passed the proposals for an independent redistricting commission and legalized recreational pot.
MI and CO are heading in the same directions....blue.