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Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:27 PM

American Bar Association Goes After Trump For Blasting Roger Stone Sentencing On Twitter


POLITICS 02/12/2020 07:55 pm ET Updated 3 hours ago
American Bar Association Goes After Trump For Blasting Roger Stone Sentencing On Twitter
The organization put out a pointed statement about “public officials who personally attack judges or prosecutors” after the president did just that.
By Sanjana Karanth


The American Bar Association indirectly denounced President Donald Trump on Wednesday for publicly criticizing the sentencing recommendation for his friend Roger Stone as well as the judge presiding over Stone’s case.

“The American Bar Association steadfastly supports judicial independence and the sound exercise of prosecutorial discretion,” ABA President Judy Perry Martinez said in a statement on Wednesday. “Public officials who personally attack judges or prosecutors can create a perception that the system is serving a political or other purpose rather than the fair administration of justice.”


The message from the organization of lawyers follows Trump’s tweet early Tuesday morning calling the seven- to nine-year sentencing recommendation for Stone a “miscarriage of justice.” The Trump adviser had been convicted of witness tampering and lying to Congress.

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Reply American Bar Association Goes After Trump For Blasting Roger Stone Sentencing On Twitter (Original post)
babylonsister Thursday OP
democrank Thursday #1
Sanity Claws Thursday #2
Ms. Toad Thursday #3
Sanity Claws Thursday #4
Ms. Toad Thursday #5
Sanity Claws Thursday #6
Ms. Toad Thursday #15
sdfernando Thursday #14
Ms. Toad Thursday #16
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:29 PM

1. Recommended

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:33 PM

2. Go after Barr too

Get Barr investigated and disbarred.

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:39 PM

3. The ABA has nothing to do with licening attorneys. n/t

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #3)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:41 PM

4. But they can make referrals

They can't revoke or suspend his license but, if he is a member, they can remove him from membership, and file a complaint/ make a referral to the applicable bar.
The ABA is not helpless in this matter. If the ABA wants to stand for the rule of law, it should take whatever steps it can.

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #4)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 12:50 PM

5. There's a difference between being vocal about principles of law

and targeting specific people. It does the former, it does not do the latter.

Membership in the ABA is open to anyone willing to pay the membership fee.

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:25 PM

6. There may generally be difference between principles and targeting specific people

However, I don't see the difference when the specific person involved is the AG violating law at the highest level and in effect violating principles of law.
The ABA is an advocacy as well as a membership group. It should be taking a stand against Barr and show it publicly.

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #6)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 04:54 PM

15. They are very different things.

One is advocating for "judicial independence and the sound exercise of prosecutorial discretion." The other is passing judgment on a person.

They did ot even do that with Trump - their statement was limited to describing unacceptable circumstances, not passing judgment on Trump's action: "Public officials who personally attack judges or prosecutors can create a perception that the system is serving a political or other purpose rather than the fair administration of justice.”

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Response to Ms. Toad (Reply #5)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 04:32 PM

14. I think the ABA still has, or should have some guidelines around membership.

For the purposes of this, lets say I was a lawyer and joined the ABA just after passing the BAR...then I murdered by parents to inherit their money, was caught and convicted. I'm still licensed lawyer but I would think & hope that a prestigious organization like the ABA would revoke my membership.

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Response to sdfernando (Reply #14)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 04:57 PM

16. Here's the formal statement:

Who can join the ABA?
Membership in the ABA is open to everyone through different membership categories. You may join as a U.S. licensed lawyer, a non-U.S. licensed lawyer, law student (at an ABA-accredited law school), student (a post-secondary education–level student) or a non–lawyer (includes paralegals, law librarians, economists and others interested in the ABA).


So even if Barr gets disbarred (as he likley would be if he murdered his parents), he is still free to retain his membership as a non-lawyer . . . interested in the ABA.

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #2)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 03:34 PM

11. You are 100% correct

Trump doesn't even have a legal degree or bar certification.

Why? aren't they going after Barr, guiliani, and a hundred other bar certified attorneys in the administration and the Senate.
Of course they can just go register in another state, but that takes time and detracts from their efforts. If they continue to advise Trump, they can be prosecuted for practicing with out a license I would suspect.

We need an un-relenting tsunami of shit coming at them from every direction to stifle their agenda.........

The Democratic Party has NO leader, and NO agenda, and NO organization..........

Look no further than the Dem's primary election disarray....it's laughable.........

Someone commented that if things continue like they are, we won't have a candidate at this rate until September.....

While the dems are wandering down the jungle path swatting at mosquitoes, they are oblivious to the herd of charging elephants...
(no pun intended, but "perfectly" right on target)

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 01:59 PM

7. About effin' time

Rec

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 02:36 PM

8. I feel better now

Really. I was beginning to feel some real despair at the thought that the Judicial System was caving to Barr. He and Trump and Moscow Mitch aren’t concerned if principled prosecutors quit in protest. That just makes it easier for them since they have no intention of stopping their takeover.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 02:50 PM

9. wtf? a "perception"?

Oh gee, "a perception that the system is serving a political or other purpose". It's not just a perception; the system is IN FACT serving a political or other purpose! Has anybody at the ABA seen any news in the last 3 years?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 03:16 PM

10. But when will they get off their butts over Barr?

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 03:37 PM

12. Now Trump will go after the ABA to abolish its influence on legal oversight!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Thu Feb 13, 2020, 03:38 PM

13. ⭐️K&R⭐️

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