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Lindsey Graham Implicates William Barr in Massive Scandal, on Live Television



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Lindsey Graham Implicates William Barr in Massive Scandal, on Live Television
By Jonathan Chait


Yesterday, Senator Lindsey Graham appeared on Face the Nation and blurted out an apparent confession of what, if true, would be a scandal of Nixonian proportions. Graham reported he had spoken with Attorney General William Barr that morning. “The Department of Justice is receiving information coming out of the Ukraine from Rudy,” he reported, explaining that Barr “told me that they’ve created a process that Rudy could give information and they would see if it’s verified.”

Graham explained why, in his opinion, this state of affairs is appropriate: “Rudy Giuliani is a well-known man. He’s a crime fighter. He’s loyal to the president. He’s a good lawyer.” On the contrary, he is describing an arrangement that is not only the appearance of a conflict of interest but a massive abuse on its face.

First, Giuliani is not a government official. He is representing Donald Trump as an individual, a fact he has made perfectly clear. He boasted to the New York Times last May that he was seeking to uncover “information will be very, very helpful to my client, and may turn out to be helpful to my government.” The distinction between “will” and “may” was Rudy’s open acknowledgement that he was looking out for Trump, not the U.S. government, and that the interests of the two might not be the same. He was even more clear in a letter to Ukrainian President Zelensky, which his former partner, Lev Parnas, produced. The letter stated Giuliani was representing Trump “as a private citizen, not as President of the United States”:

So, can any private citizen have their lawyer send allegations to Barr? What is this special “process” he created to let Rudy supply him with allegations? Is it a 1-800 number, a drop box, or what? Has Barr told the Democratic candidates how the process works so they can have their lawyers feed their own leads to him?
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The second problem here is that Giuliani is not only representing a presidential candidate as his personal client. He is working in close contact with foreign partners who have a combination of personal interests and foreign-policy goals that do not line up with U.S. interests. He has not disclosed who is paying him for his work, but he was paid half a million dollars by Parnas, who was in turn paid by Dymtro Firtash, a Russian oligarch whose work tends to advance Russian foreign-policy interests. This raises the strong possibility that Giuliani is effectively a paid backchannel for Russian propaganda, and he now has a special line into the Department of Justice.

Third, Giuliani himself is the reported subject of a criminal investigation. Two of his partners have already been arrested, and the Department of Justice is reportedly pursuing the possibility of charges against Giuliani as well. (He allegedly pursued his own profit-making scheme in Ukraine, and seems to have committed campaign finance violations, by funneling foreign donations to Republican allies.)

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Reply Lindsey Graham Implicates William Barr in Massive Scandal, on Live Television (Original post)
babylonsister Monday OP
BSdetect Monday #1
CaptYossarian Monday #12
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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:55 PM

1. Expect an excuse of having "misspoke" shortly.

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Response to BSdetect (Reply #1)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:27 PM

12. He was misquoted by his own mouth.

And Rudy WAS a crimefighter. Now he's an accomplice.

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Response to CaptYossarian (Reply #12)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:55 PM

19. CY.....we are soooo fucked N/C

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Response to DENVERPOPS (Reply #19)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:59 PM

22. We are every time the GOP slithers into the WH.

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Response to CaptYossarian (Reply #22)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:40 PM

39. Strange that no one else has noticed this connection. GOP disaster/corruption

Leave the Democrats with the mess to clean up.

Lie [stet] low for a cycle and then rinse/lather, repeat.

Meanwhile the moneybags funding these exercises are stealing from the treasury.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:55 PM

2. This is a very big deal

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Response to pandr32 (Reply #2)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:48 AM

51. The dems and the news media should be all over this. Horrible

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Response to SummerSnow (Reply #51)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 01:14 PM

54. Yes, they should

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:56 PM

3. Rumors have it that

Rudy will be passing his information to Bill Barr via clandestine meetings in an undisclosed parking garage outside Washington DC.
Rudy, undercover name is "deep tongue".

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Response to patphil (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:55 PM

18. LOL

good one

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Response to patphil (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:22 PM

32. Deep tongue, shallow mind.

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Response to patphil (Reply #3)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:33 PM

37. No, deep brown nose!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:56 PM

4. The GOP mafia are operating out in the open.

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Response to BusyBeingBest (Reply #4)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:00 PM

6. Yes

But thank goodness Trump didn't get removed from the ballot! THAT would have been horrible- per Susan Collins, Lisa Murkowski

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #6)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:06 PM

10. LOL, yes. This is merely "disappointing" and "inappropriate".

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Response to BusyBeingBest (Reply #10)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:09 PM

11. Expect them out shortly

to issue forth their proclamations of "concern"

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 12:59 PM

5. We should probably ask the DOJ to investigate this....

OOPS

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Response to Takket (Reply #5)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:10 PM

52. Exactly!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:00 PM

7. Who would hold him accountable? Nobody

under this regime.

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Response to Maru Kitteh (Reply #7)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 10:40 AM

50. It's frightening that there can be no oversight while GOP holds power

Winning back the Presidency and Senate is a must.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:02 PM

8. Bollocks! Rudy has always given shit to Barr

In fact, Barr went on a world tour in search of shit on Ukraine, and the Bidens. The U.S.’s Attorney General is entirely a political arm of the Trumpass re-election campaign

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Response to rusty fender (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:44 PM

15. Right - now they are setting up the reveal

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Response to rusty fender (Reply #8)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:54 PM

17. Zactly.

We've known this.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:03 PM

9. And the GOP Senate gave them the green light to do so

I expect only much worse things to follow.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:40 PM

13. Trump is a crime boss, and Rudy is one of his goons

AG Barr is a high ranking goon in the operation.

Republicans in Congress are co-opted the way Al Capone paid off or intimidated corrupt city officials.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:42 PM

14. Has the DOJ spoken out or do they not care that they look like they're on the take?!!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:47 PM

16. A scandal of Nixonian proportions???

Really? Because Trump's impeachment counts were much worse than whatever Nixon ever did. Nixon's actions were child's play. Trump's are so far beyond being corrupt -- in the open, no less -- that it well surpasses anything Nixon ever did.

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Response to Rider3 (Reply #16)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:37 PM

38. 15 Flusher makes Nixon look like a good guy

and at least Nixon didn't shred the Constitution.

Trump et al are gangsters run amok!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:56 PM

20. Irrelevant. This abuse is allowed for republicans.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 01:59 PM

21. Is that on Rudy's resume? "Crime fighter"?

MFer is basically a shadow state department operating without oversight.

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Response to paparush (Reply #21)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:01 PM

23. He was a prosecutor when he was sane.

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Response to CaptYossarian (Reply #23)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:07 PM

27. Rudy has never been "sane"

He was, however, a prosecutor.

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Response to jmowreader (Reply #27)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:50 PM

41. Okay, before he resembled Nosferatu.

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Response to CaptYossarian (Reply #41)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:01 PM

42. I can live with that

I can see why Trump likes the guy: he "cleaned up New York City" by turning it into a police state.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:04 PM

24. MOST interesting! We need to make a note of this.

For future investigations.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:04 PM

25. They are dumber that all the mobsters of past years BUT the difference is

The WHOLE (except Romney) Rethuglicon senate is covering their ASS'S! That's the BIG difference WE have to change in NOVEMBER!!!

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #25)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:20 PM

30. This may be what saves us...

Drump is really bad at everything, including crime. So clumsy and obvious. Too emotional and impulsive. Like Rick Wilson says, everything drump touches dies.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:07 PM

26. Where is the DOJ IG?! Why are they quiet ?!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:09 PM

28. ** What ARE they cooking up?

Something big, bad and convoluted. They have to fabricate/coordinate supporting fake documents and phony evidence. Maybe deep fake videos... They're not looking for dirt, they're creating it. I expect them to be first rate forgeries. They are playing for all the marbles.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:13 PM

29. Key: Giuliani subject of criminal investigation & two partners arrested & charged. . . . nt

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:21 PM

31. And nothing can be done about it.

I never realized the entire DoJ had zero patriots in it.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:34 PM

33. News organizations Need to find out who is paying Rudy

Need to find out who is paying Rudy
Because it’s not trump

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Response to TeamPooka (Reply #33)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:00 PM

35. Firtash n/t

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 02:53 PM

34. Great points.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 03:25 PM

36. It's all the same fucking scandal. He's already been impeached, tried, and let off the hook for it.

This is just (further) confirmation. The POTUS is coordinating a disinformation campaign with the GRU and the Rooshin Mob. The AG is either abetting it or humoring President Asshole and his senile, gullible "lawyer".

The DOJ is corrupted and compromised. Nothing will be done until Trump is gone.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 04:11 PM

40. Even the Face The Nation interviewer had the good sense to ask Graham 'Why isn't that a problem.....

.... government (taxpayer money) paying for opposition research for the2020 election paid for by the taxpayer". Then she followed up with "who's paying Rudy". The first answer was totally a bunch of words and phrases strung together. The second got this from Graham "I don't know who's paying Rudy"

So I have a question for Suzy Collins so is this what you think is learning his lesson. Trump, Giuliani, Ukraine, and Bidens. What has changed? Nothing!

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 05:27 PM

43. When the levers are pulled, these folks have it coming to them in spades?

Hang the lot of them slow upside down with mirrors surrounding them, oh what a fitting end for these evil faux!

Record every second of it, full confessors may get a reprieve but those noose marks, they last, how deep will yours go Moscow Mitch, that's one hell of a pouch, sir!
*kaplooooey*

What a dream I had, eh?


The brazenness is what is different now, it's not your imagination.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 06:42 PM

44. I am ready for these

MFers to go to jail.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 06:50 PM

45. Bizarro world.

By today's GOP standards this isn't even newsworthy.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 07:08 PM

46. Just add it to the pile of corruption that will have zero consequences.

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 08:05 PM

47. K&R

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 08:29 PM

48. Just keeps getting worse, doesn't it? n/t

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Response to babylonsister (Original post)

Mon Feb 10, 2020, 09:47 PM

49. Doesn't mean a thing when the country is run by a dictatorship

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #49)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 12:14 PM

53. and has Repubs and Barr, DOJ to back Trump up.

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Response to riversedge (Reply #53)

Tue Feb 11, 2020, 04:00 PM

55. And, as it seems quite clear now...the ability to STOP any investigations or

prosecutions sentences they want.

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