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Fri Feb 7, 2020, 07:05 AM

Pachamama's Revenge? Coronavirus being linked to a critically endangered animal called the Pangolin

Pachamama is the Quechua word for Mother Earth. I chose this name for DU when I joined DU 16 years ago in honor of Pachamama and work I had done related to the rainforest.

I remember Shamans with the Achuar and the Huararani (tribes who were once mortal enemies) telling similar stories when I spent time with them helping them organize to take on the oil company Petroleum Ecuador and Texaco to clean up the environmental damage to their water sources and tribal lands with oil waste pits and the illnesses it was causing. It was a time where scientists who I met were starting to admit the planet had reached peak oil and that the oil companies knew it and yet were busy trying to figure out their next target of where to get their hands on the resources they knew were dwindling, and of course leaving always behind a path of environmental destruction.

The Shamans and tribal leaders considered Oil to be Pachamama’s blood and they knew she was in trouble. But they said it wasn’t Pachamama who was dying...it was us humans. Pachamama they said will live forever, perhaps in a different form than we know it now, but it would be without humans. She said if humans don’t stop raping and harming her for its resources it will “shake humans off”. Change the dream is what they said. Because the humans in the industrial world with the “dream” we had and what we were making it is really a “nightmare” and if we don’t stop, Pachamama will have her way - her revenge - and it is us humans that will be harmed and she will do it in ways that strike back at humans for their crimes against her.

When Greta Thunberg and so many warn the leaders and the communities to stop and change our ways and are sounding the alarm of an existential crisis, they are correct and sadly too few are listening and ways are not stopping. Pachamama will speak and she has begun. Whether it be unpredictable weather, earthquakes, locust or other natural events there is an event happening that is also a response of Pachamama according to these Shamans....in the form of the Coronavirus and a sweet animal, one of the only in the world without teeth and looks like a cross between an armadillo and anteater. The Pangolin.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/chinas-push-to-export-traditional-medicine-may-doom-the-magical-pangolin/2018/07/20/8d8c52d4-7ef1-11e8-a63f-7b5d2aba7ac5_story.html


https://www.nationalgeographic.com/animals/mammals/c/chinese-pangolin/

Highly endangered and on the critically endangered list and illegal to hunt and trade, this cute little animal is hunted illegally and traded at the markets in China and the scales sold for Chinese medicines and meat for food. Chinese researchers just confirmed that they have linked the Coronavirus to the Pangolin being traded at these markets in Wuhan.

If this is indeed where the virus originated, Pachamama and the Pangolin will have unleashed a virus on the human population because of human activity and it’s violation of it and while the Pangolin who is harmless and is on verge of extinction, a pandemic of proportions similar or worse than the Spanish Flu will be unleashed and will kill many humans. And according to the Shamans in the Amazon may just be a small taste of things to come because of human activity violating Pachamama.

When will humans learn it is they that are facing extinction?

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Reply Pachamama's Revenge? Coronavirus being linked to a critically endangered animal called the Pangolin (Original post)
Pachamama Feb 2020 OP
NJCher Feb 2020 #1
Pachamama Feb 2020 #5
murielm99 Feb 2020 #6
llmart Feb 2020 #2
Pachamama Feb 2020 #4
Iliyah Feb 2020 #3
MineralMan Feb 2020 #7
Delphinus Feb 2020 #8
littlemissmartypants Feb 2020 #9
muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #10
Pachamama Feb 2020 #11
muriel_volestrangler Feb 2020 #12
Pachamama Feb 2020 #13
Blue_true Feb 2020 #14

Response to Pachamama (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:07 AM

1. Heard a story Yesterday

About a movement or trend of younger people who are not having children because they believe it’s wrong to bring a child into the global situation we are facing.

In another story, how Coronavirus will have lowered the Chinese economy by 1/2 a percent.

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Response to NJCher (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:59 AM

5. Both my children recently said to me that they don't plan to have children for this reason



I would have loved Pacha-grandbabies....

But I can understand and agree....

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #5)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 10:26 AM

6. My children made this decision, too.

I agree, but I am sad not to have grandchildren.

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Response to Pachamama (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:10 AM

2. Great post.

I think you meant your last word to be extinction.

Thanks for the wonderful information from your personal experiences.

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Response to llmart (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 09:56 AM

4. Oops....spelling correct and posting in night...



Yes, it was meant to be the word extinction. Thank you for your response to my post. It just flew out of me as I looked at the latest updates on the numbers and read online about researchers tracing it to the Pangolin.

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Response to Pachamama (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:21 AM

3. K & R . . . .

There is a reason why creatures of all kind co-exist on earth. Slowly thousands are being distinguished every day. Rain forests are being destroyed for profit, fracking, drilling, and oil is drying up. The atmosphere contaminated, the stratosphere being poison, pollution in the oceans, lake and rivers. Grounds being saturated with chemicals.

All for profit.

Then I hear right wingers say, God will fix it. Hmmm no. That's why God gave us a so called superior brain, for us to correct our mistakes.

Think of "Easter Island".

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Response to Pachamama (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:46 PM

8. So grateful for your story

and your post.

We are so out of balance ...

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Response to Pachamama (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:58 PM

9. Very interesting and informative post. Thank you for sharing this,

Pachamama. I learned so much.

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Response to Pachamama (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:05 PM

10. While the danger to pangolins is awful, it seem to be just you who is connecting it to the virus

and I'm not sure that's a good idea, unless there's real evidence. It would make it just as likely that people would simply kill them as leave them alone, if you convinced them.

But, in the spirit of loving these beautiful creatures, here's David Attenborough with an Asian one in a tree - in 1956:



and 2002 - an African one on the ground:



And 2018:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p066wfqw
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b0b3gg0t
https://www.wowshack.com/sir-david-attenborough-gets-emotional-over-pangolin-he-saved-in-bali-in-1950s/

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #11)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:19 PM

12. Both your links in the OP were from before the virus was known

It would have been helpful to use those you now have. Though they are still speculation.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #12)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 08:29 PM

13. You missed the point of the story from the shamans

It could be any number of animals...fill in the blanks. The point of the tale and the warning from the Shamans was what my post was about.

Thanks for your concern...

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Response to Pachamama (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 10:09 PM

14. The Shamans were right. We can't harm the Earth, but the Earth certainly can kill us. nt

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