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Fri Feb 7, 2020, 05:30 AM

!! 'If I wanted to join a Republican country club, I wouldn't have joined a church' !!

Feb 6 at bilgrimage.blogspot.com

Bill Lindsay reports his cousin told him he said this when he left his long-time Methodist church

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Reply !! 'If I wanted to join a Republican country club, I wouldn't have joined a church' !! (Original post)
bobbieinok Feb 2020 OP
mia Feb 2020 #1
mnhtnbb Feb 2020 #2
mia Feb 2020 #5
bobbieinok Feb 2020 #6
bobbieinok Feb 2020 #8
raccoon Feb 2020 #3
Hortensis Feb 2020 #4
Staph Feb 2020 #7
Name removed Feb 2020 #9

Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 06:56 AM

1. Thanks for posting this

I found this to be true at a nearby Presbyterian Bible study I attended for the last few months. I stopped going. The Methodist church in my neighborhood openly promotes the Republican party. I've tried so many different churches over the years. Other than a Quaker meeting group that sat together in silence, I haven't been to church without some form of discrimination.

http://bilgrimage.blogspot.com/2020/02/a-report-from-trump-country-on-united.html#more

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Response to mia (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 07:13 AM

2. Have you tried a Unitarian Church?

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Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 07:45 AM

5. Not since the 80's.

Back then they had singles meetings with live jazz on Friday nights. I never asked about their Bible study.

Thanks for the suggestion.

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Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #2)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 01:52 PM

6. Or a United Church of Christ? Formerly Congregational. Open and affirming LGBT

Church Obamas attended before his minister came under violent, misleading attack

Episcopal Church fought LGBT battle decade or so ago and split

Have heard there's a Lutheran denomination that's LGBT affirming

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Response to mia (Reply #1)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 04:10 PM

8. Thanks for posting the link.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 07:29 AM

3. Than was my experience with two local Methodist churches. Nt

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 07:29 AM

4. I've been realizing that the implantation of corruption in our

institutions by subversive RW billionaires would of course include religious institutions. That's hardly a new thought, of course. But with so many religious conservatives perfectly capable of corrupting themselves without outside help, I've tended to blame them for just being themselves. When really, large numbers wanting to be good and eager to be lead by the churches they put their faith in wouldn't have stood a chance.

That giant RW conspiracy to systematic change the character of our nation and shift the whole thing right of course included subverting the enormously powerful religious institutions that shape the thinking and behaviors of many tens of millions. Probably started very early on, about the time they first went after our colleges and universities. They must have had great returns for relatively little well placed investment with some RW religious leaders, plus maneuvers to get other leaders in line or out of the way, etc. After that, just spread through ministry.

And this OP is one of the upshots of well over 40 years of this of course. Intense politicization and corruption are now driving more and more people away from religion. Before anyone cheers, though, that's a big problem. Remember, when ministers are not teaching moral principles and giving people in need the direction they crave (and often giving their lives further purpose by leading them in progressive projects to serve others), that presents a magnificent opportunity for devils to fill the void with poison. And these days evil spirits can find and come right into the home of virtually every person in need.

Speaking of, I suspect a lot of those answering the calls, domestic and foreign, to flock to Sanders right now are trying to fill that need. They want to be good. They want to serve. They have faith.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Fri Feb 7, 2020, 02:38 PM

7. It depends very much on the local Methodist church.

My United Methodist church has signed on to the local "Open To All" campaign, promoting an inclusive environment for all. Our church council president is gay, in a longstanding relationship. One of our long-term members is running for the West Virginia House of Delegates, stating her faith in God as her reason to work in the legislature to help the poor, children, the drug-addicted, all of those who need help. And in 2017, a bunch of us went to DC for the Women's March.

Not all Methodist churches are the same.


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