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Probably lost a neighbor today....heh
on my wife's FB page, a neighbor posted she'd been holding off but responded that Dems are so mean and hypocritical and Nancy was a nasty person.
My wife had a great response:
if hypocrisy drives you crazy, then logically, you should hate Trump! Otherwise it's just driving you crazy when it suits you!
and then I had to chime in... (my wife isn't into politics in the near-obsessed way I am but she's become more vocal of late...love it)
It's not like trump has >16,000 documented lies in 1,095 days in office, has been banned from having a charity after defrauding multiple charities (including kids with cancer!) to fund his campaign and himself, mocked the disabled, sexually assaulted women, raped an underage girl, walked in on underage girls at his pageants, cheated on his 1st wife, on his 2nd wife with his 3rd wife, on his 3rd wife with a porn star, laundered money for russia for years, violated the emoluments clause from day 1 in office (Jimmy Carter was obviously a fool for selling off his peanut farm), covered up the murder/dismemberment of a US resident and WaPo reporter, engaged in racial discrimination in his real estate holdings, violated the US Constitution by bribing/extorting a foreign nation (multiple times with multiple nations) to investigate a political opponent, hired white supremacists as top aides (Miller, Bannon), sought to provide nuclear technology to Saudi Arabia and other mideast nations in secret (see Seth Abramson's Proof of Collusion and the involvement of Erik Prince of Blackwater and the infamous meeting in the Seychelles), awarded an AM radio hate merchant who's mocked people with Parkinson's, sang racist songs, spewed misogynistic hate and conspiracy theory after conspiracy theory with the Medal of Freedom on the floor of the House.
I mean...Nancy ripped a copy of a lie-filled speech in half. She's so mean.
I mean...Nancy ripped a copy of a lie-filled speech in half. She's so mean.
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Direct hits by both of you!
But you forgot:
Was fined $25 million for his fraudulent "university"
and,
Was fined $10 million for money laundering - through his bankrupted casino, as I recall.
And who the hell bankrupts a CASINO???
Well done Roland99!!
Am journaling for when I need to read this again. Well done, to the two of you.
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Part of the ‘record’ - is really frustrating.
Obviously, this person watches fox noise. 
Might reply back with your newest comments bolded at end of the same list as before? See where they skip to next? Dunno, tho, I’d understand if you’re just done with them.
with tRump's grand tax bill........
As a bonus, I hope she's enjoying paying tRump's tariffs at Walmart.......
{#} ACTUAL Federal Spending and Deficits - Fiscal Years 2008 - 2019, in $Billions
Fiscal year 2019 ended September 30, 2019. Similarly for all the other fiscal years.
Note: all figures in this section are actual, not budgeted. I only point out that Bush signed the FY 2009 budget, and that Obama signed the FY 2017 budget.
And yes, the above numbers include payroll tax receipts (including Social Security) and Social Security benefits expenditures, since the above are unified budget numbers.
Source:
. . . https://www.cbo.gov/publication/55824 which links to the complete document at
. . . https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2019-11/55824-CBO-MBR-FY19.pdf . . . See also
. . . https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/omb/budget/fy2018/hist01z1.xls
. . . https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/omb/budget/fy2019/hist01z1.xls <-does not work 2/3/20
. . . (Table 1.1) for receipts, outlays, and surplus
. . . . . . https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/hist01z1-fy2020.xlsx
(Historic tables are listed at http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals ).
Source for the 2008 numbers (and 2009 thru 2012 except a couple of the later years were revised by the document above):
. . . http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43698 which links to the complete document at
. . . https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/112th-congress-2011-2012/reports/43698-Nov-MBR.pdf
Aside: how it was spent (good read): https://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go
Regarding Obama's 8 years: FY 2017 federal spending is 463 B$ (13.2%) more than FY 2009 (the last Bush budgeted year).
Since the nominal (current dollar) GDP increased by 35.5% between FY 2009 (a recession low point) and FY 2017 (see next paragraph), while federal spending increased 13.2%, that means federal spending as a percentage of GDP dropped substantially during those 8 years -- from 24.46% of GDP to 20.42% of GDP (calculations below). Something to keep in mind when some rightie rants and raves about the socialist Obama spending us into the poor house.
Note: I am including FY 2017 as part of Obama's legacy because he signed the FY 2017 budget spending bills. FY 2017 runs from Oct. 1, 2016 thru Sept. 30, 2017 -- 3 2/3 months while Obama was president, and 8 1/3 months while Trump was president). Just like I assigned FY 2009 to Bush
In Current Dollars: GDP FY 2009 (2009 Q3) = $14,384.1 billion . GDP FY 2017 (2017 Q3) = $19,495.5 billion -- an increase of 35.5% over FY 2009.
Source of GDP figures: http://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls
where FY 2009 = Q4 2008 through Q3 2009. And FY 2017 = Q4 2016 through Q3 2017.
FY 2009: Spending / GDP = 3518/14384 = 24.46% . FY 2017: Spending / GDP = 3981/19496 = 20.42%
The Fiscal Year 2009 budget (Oct. 1, 2008 - Sept 30, 2009) was signed into law by G.W. Bush. The CBO on January 7, 2009 (13 days before Bush left office) projected a $1.2 trillion deficit for FY 2009. So all but about $200 billion of FY 2009 spending and deficits was "baked in" before Bush left office.
Fiscal year 2019 ended September 30, 2019. Similarly for all the other fiscal years.
Note: all figures in this section are actual, not budgeted. I only point out that Bush signed the FY 2009 budget, and that Obama signed the FY 2017 budget.
And yes, the above numbers include payroll tax receipts (including Social Security) and Social Security benefits expenditures, since the above are unified budget numbers.
Source:
. . . https://www.cbo.gov/publication/55824 which links to the complete document at
. . . https://www.cbo.gov/system/files/2019-11/55824-CBO-MBR-FY19.pdf . . . See also
. . . https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/omb/budget/fy2018/hist01z1.xls
. . . https://www.whitehouse.gov/sites/whitehouse.gov/files/omb/budget/fy2019/hist01z1.xls <-does not work 2/3/20
. . . (Table 1.1) for receipts, outlays, and surplus
. . . . . . https://www.whitehouse.gov/wp-content/uploads/2019/03/hist01z1-fy2020.xlsx
(Historic tables are listed at http://www.whitehouse.gov/omb/budget/Historicals ).
Source for the 2008 numbers (and 2009 thru 2012 except a couple of the later years were revised by the document above):
. . . http://www.cbo.gov/publication/43698 which links to the complete document at
. . . https://www.cbo.gov/sites/default/files/112th-congress-2011-2012/reports/43698-Nov-MBR.pdf
Aside: how it was spent (good read): https://www.cbpp.org/research/policy-basics-where-do-our-federal-tax-dollars-go
Regarding Obama's 8 years: FY 2017 federal spending is 463 B$ (13.2%) more than FY 2009 (the last Bush budgeted year).
Since the nominal (current dollar) GDP increased by 35.5% between FY 2009 (a recession low point) and FY 2017 (see next paragraph), while federal spending increased 13.2%, that means federal spending as a percentage of GDP dropped substantially during those 8 years -- from 24.46% of GDP to 20.42% of GDP (calculations below). Something to keep in mind when some rightie rants and raves about the socialist Obama spending us into the poor house.
Note: I am including FY 2017 as part of Obama's legacy because he signed the FY 2017 budget spending bills. FY 2017 runs from Oct. 1, 2016 thru Sept. 30, 2017 -- 3 2/3 months while Obama was president, and 8 1/3 months while Trump was president). Just like I assigned FY 2009 to Bush
In Current Dollars: GDP FY 2009 (2009 Q3) = $14,384.1 billion . GDP FY 2017 (2017 Q3) = $19,495.5 billion -- an increase of 35.5% over FY 2009.
Source of GDP figures: http://www.bea.gov/national/xls/gdplev.xls
where FY 2009 = Q4 2008 through Q3 2009. And FY 2017 = Q4 2016 through Q3 2017.
FY 2009: Spending / GDP = 3518/14384 = 24.46% . FY 2017: Spending / GDP = 3981/19496 = 20.42%
The Fiscal Year 2009 budget (Oct. 1, 2008 - Sept 30, 2009) was signed into law by G.W. Bush. The CBO on January 7, 2009 (13 days before Bush left office) projected a $1.2 trillion deficit for FY 2009. So all but about $200 billion of FY 2009 spending and deficits was "baked in" before Bush left office.
bookmarking! 
Your post may not change your neighbor's mind, but it certainly made my day. 
