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sellitman

(11,605 posts)
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 08:51 PM Feb 2020

Romney surprised me.

I always thought him a vacuous twit.

Today was his best moment. Years from now we will mostly remember how courageous he was with his vote and his speech. I may not like his politics but I must give him my respect today.

Thank you Governor.

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krissey

(1,205 posts)
2. Ya. And how could he vote no on obstruction of congress?
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 08:55 PM
Feb 2020

Subpoenas ignored, witness refused to come in, documents and emails not handed over, witness intimidated.

uponit7771

(90,301 posts)
3. K&R, what did other reThugs have lose ?! Must be money cause that's the only thing Romney has
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 08:57 PM
Feb 2020

... that the rest of them don't

peacefreak2.0

(1,023 posts)
5. I think he is a man who lives his faith.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 09:19 PM
Feb 2020

The cynical side of me also thinks maybe he’s playing a long game of being the only Republican with integrity and a shot at the White House. Told you I was cynical.

WyattKansas

(1,648 posts)
6. Do you remember when he was running against President Obama?
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 09:23 PM
Feb 2020

And nobody could figure out why he made that Russia comment... I would really love for the country to know exactly how much he knew then and if he knew the republican shit show was coming.

marlakay

(11,425 posts)
7. He might have gone to his church for advice
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 09:38 PM
Feb 2020

Mormons that really believe wouldn’t accept what Trump has done. Especially putting the kids in cages, they are all about families.

I have mormon neighbors super family people I can’t imagine they could vote for Trump, I think they would stay home first.

Vivienne235729

(3,377 posts)
8. Agreed. This is the kind of stuff I teach my daughter to be and do.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 09:46 PM
Feb 2020

To stand up against unwavering pressure and speak your voice and remain honorable. Stand up for your values and morals. I would have never thought it would come from Mitt Romney, though. But yes. I think this is his finest moment to date.

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
9. Yes.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 09:49 PM
Feb 2020

Be interesting to see where he goes from here. Utah seems to have a disconnect from the Republican party. Wouldn't it be a hoot if Trump lost Utah in the General election?

Dorian Gray

(13,479 posts)
12. I'm sure some
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 09:52 PM
Feb 2020

are trying to explain this to Trump, but I don't know if his ego will allow him to hear it.

God, I hope his ego destroys him.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
10. While I dont like his policies, he earned my respect as a human being today.
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 09:49 PM
Feb 2020

Welcome to the Resistance, Mitt.

democrattotheend

(11,605 posts)
19. Same
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:15 AM
Feb 2020

I never hated him the way I hate Trump, but I have a lot more respect for him after today. My 2012 vote was still one of the best votes I ever cast, but it wasn't really a vote against Romney - it was a vote for Obama.

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
13. I wasn't all that surprised...
Wed Feb 5, 2020, 09:57 PM
Feb 2020

He's actually a 50/50 in my view. He tends to be a decent guy but his adherence to his faith over rules his sense a good part of the time. Puritanical attitudes toward how everyone else lives and "foistering" your beliefs upon everyone in close proximity to you is a bit much. That and the pious manner of imparting this belief to others is truly annoying to the nonmembers of the club that favors misogyny and other leaning toward extremes ideology kind of negates a lot of the good he does.

But at least he plays a moralist on teevee.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
16. Honestly, it's not the moralizing that bothers me about him,
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 02:58 AM
Feb 2020

Because he can be as pious as he needs to be for himself and so what?...and it's not like the Falwell's of the country will EVER REALLY consider his mormon ass 'brother'..

The thing that bothers me is his belief that neoliberal Vulture Capitalism is in any way defendable.

He wants to run as the republican that knows how to reign in wall street cause hes been there n knows how they think...I can respect that niche for him and still find a dem to vote for who believes the same thing! (But hes gonna have to pull one hell of a means culpa on that 'corporations are people, too' quote).

2naSalit

(86,323 posts)
17. I agree.
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:11 AM
Feb 2020

The vulture capitalism is his albatross but it's also a major tenet of his faith. To mormons, wealth is holiness. The wealthier you are the higher up in the church you get in their secret society. I live among them although in a less concentrated population now. I lived in Idaho for over a decade and I got a serious education about them there.

Several universities/colleges in the region have a building with Romney's name on it.

I wouldn't vote for him for anything because he's usually pretty self serving but today... I would have to say that it was his finest hour.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
15. I'm not surprised, actually. The man wants to be president more than most of us dont want to die lol
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 02:49 AM
Feb 2020

and he knows hes not gonna get there without the 10 percent in the middle.

And this, was about THAT.

 

Awsi Dooger

(14,565 posts)
20. The Republican Party would never nominate Mitt Romney again
Thu Feb 6, 2020, 03:22 AM
Feb 2020

Not before this vote and especially not after this vote. He is viewed as a loser and now a traitor. He doesn't have 1% chance at the presidency. This is hardly Dick Nixon revisited.

Romney is one of the few who understand the big picture and long term perspective. This vote will ultimately be viewed as correct, so Romney's image and stature will improve. Trump will go down as one of the worst Americans of all time. Romney's name will be quickly summoned as the one Republican gutsy enough to vote for his conviction. Names like Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski will drift into obscurity.

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