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Mon Jan 27, 2020, 06:31 AM

On Holocaust Remembrance Day, as we remember, they want the horrors be forgotten...vicious oafs.

As Elie Wiesel has said “I swore never to be silent whenever and wherever human beings endure suffering and humiliation. We must take sides. Neutrality helps the oppressor, never the victim. Silence encourages the tormentor, never the tormented.” This has never been more important than it is in this period of history we are living through.

They want memories to fade, history cannot repeat itself if no-one forgets and everyone learns from it, which would be more than a little inconvenient to those who would break democracy through, in no small part, incitement of fear and hate. It is much easier to be a Nazi or a White Supremacist if you are never confronted with the complete and utter inhumanity of the holocaust, genocides since or slavery and Jim Crow.

They rely on collective amnesia and some peoples, very obvious ability, to suspend their humanity towards those they perceive as other, to do horrors beyond imagination. Last night I was watching an interview on the news with a 90 year old holocaust survivor who said she never thought that antisemitism would rise like that again... and she was wrong. In the twilight of her years she lives in a state of fear because of the state of our nations today. This is outrageous. It is unconscionable 75 years after she was freed from Auschwitz, that this is her reality. History shows us how quickly democracy can perish, by the beginning of WW2, there were only 11 democracies left on planet... but the lesson is not just how people like Hitler stole democracy, it was about how many of the citizenry actively supported it: “And it was not merely tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands, but hundreds of millions of people who were the obedient witnesses of this slaughter of the innocent. Nor were they merely obedient witnesses: when ordered to, they gave their support to this slaughter, voting in favour of it amid a hubbub of voices. There was something unexpected in their degree of obedience... The extreme violence of the totalitarian social systems proved able to paralyse the human spirit throughout whole continents.” Vasily Grossman

In honour of the memory of all those who died so violently and without just cause we cannot let these abhorrent leaders today to obfuscate, to lie and to talk out both sides of their gobs while half of them are trying to bring about the end times through their actions.

"The things I saw beggar description. … The visual evidence and the verbal testimony of starvation, cruelty and bestiality were so overpowering as to leave me a bit sick. In one room, where [there] were piled up 20 or 30 naked men, killed by starvation, [General] George Patton would not even enter. He said he would get sick if he did so. I made the visit deliberately, in order to be in position to give first-hand evidence of these things if ever, in the future, there develops a tendency to charge these allegations merely to 'propaganda.'" President Dwight D. Eisenhower





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Reply On Holocaust Remembrance Day, as we remember, they want the horrors be forgotten...vicious oafs. (Original post)
Soph0571 Jan 27 OP
wnylib Jan 27 #1
irisblue Jan 27 #2
bucolic_frolic Jan 27 #3
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Farmer-Rick Jan 27 #5
panader0 Jan 27 #6
canetoad Jan 28 #12
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PandoraAwakened Jan 27 #9
Behind the Aegis Jan 28 #10
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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 07:33 AM

1. Never forget the lessons of history.

When you forget, the present has a way of reminding you.

It is essential to learn not only what happened, but HOW it happened. What were the early steps along the way that led to the horrors we have all heard about? Recognize those early warning signs and act to stop their development whenever and wherever we see them.


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Mon Jan 27, 2020, 07:41 AM

2. 🕯️

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Mon Jan 27, 2020, 08:08 AM

3. Recommend must read

Two biographies by Jean Edward Smith - FDR and Eisenhower in War and Peace. Smith's biographies are readable and relatively short as biographies go. He has the ability to read character, synthesize material, and find new relevant and obscure material that connects a lot of dots missed by other biographers and therefore unknown to the general public. Sometimes irony, unstated and unintended rears its ugly head. Eisenhower fed at the public trough his entire life, and it was astounding to realize he was fairly well paid compared to most Americans right from his early Army years (and free or subsidized housing). Yet as President his tax policies were typically Republican, though rising from the progressive wartime rates that wasn't saying much.

If you only ever read two biographies, these would be my choice. Best of all most libraries larger than a post office have a copy.

Nigel Hamilton's FDR series is also good for delving into the decision making of the President, an unrecognized gift to all America.

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Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:37 AM

5. Note how Grossman described how the Germans supported the Nazis

Some folks have the wrong idea here. They think Hitler was hated like Dumpy Trumpy is hated. But he wasn't. He was loved and tolerated. There was mild objection to his rise to power. But mostly the German people loved Hitler.

It's a small ray of hope for me. That we are not all hypnotised by this illegitimate con man. It is difficult to take control of a nation when the majority of the people hate you, ask Machiavelli.

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Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:41 AM

6. I woke up early today and watched 'Come and See', a movie

about Nazi brutality in Belarus. A very powerful movie.
The Nazis destroyed and burned 624 Belarus villages killing all inhabitants.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Come_and_See

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Response to panader0 (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 28, 2020, 01:54 AM

12. I have a copy of that movie

And strangely, was describing it to a good friend earlier today, as we talked about Holocaust Rememberance Day. It is one of the most gut-wrenching, horrifying films I have ever watched, more so because it is accurate and true.

You're the only person I know who has ever mentioned this film. The performances by the young actors are truly incredible.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jan 27, 2020, 09:50 AM

7. We must never forget.

Thank you, for this, it is an urgent, and timeless warning. There is no expiration date on this. As in the case, of the Voting Rights Act, which must be restored, in my opinion, even enhanced, and in a perpetual way.

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Mon Jan 27, 2020, 11:05 PM

9. K&R! n/t

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Tue Jan 28, 2020, 12:12 AM

11. 1 in 5 Germans think the Holocaust gets too much attention, surveys find

Two new surveys show that about one in five Germans – and more than half of right-wing populists – think the Holocaust gets too much attention here.

The surveys, released on the eve of Holocaust Remembrance Day, come amid warnings. Reflecting on the Nazi’s crimes was a priority in post-war West Germany, but “this consensus is crumbling,” Josef Schuster, head of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, said Sunday in a statement on the eve of Holocaust Remembrance Day.

“If we do not take countermeasures now, our democracy could be seriously endangered,” Schuster said, urging a greater commitment to Holocaust education.

Germans mark the anniversary of the liberation of Auschwitz – as well as other significant dates in Holocaust history throughout the year – with a wide range of programs, both official and private.

And this is appropriate, said 45 percent of the 2,052 Germans surveyed by the Yougov Institute on Jan. 22-23 for the German news agency dpa. But while this survey found that 24 percent of respondents thought the topic should get more attention, 22 percent felt the opposite.

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