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Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:53 AM

Seriously, I urge Democrats with blood pressure problems not to watch or listen to

the lie-fest now taking place in the Senate. Your health is more important than participating in the outrage in real time. And, we need you.

I don't have blood pressure problems, but turned it off after 2 minutes because of a stomach problem--- I thought I was about to "hurl chunks".

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Reply Seriously, I urge Democrats with blood pressure problems not to watch or listen to (Original post)
Atticus Jan 2020 OP
Jamastiene Jan 2020 #1
Poiuyt Jan 2020 #2
Different Drummer Jan 2020 #35
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Mike 03 Jan 2020 #3
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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:58 AM

1. You don't have to ask me twice.

I can't stomach it or watch it without popping a blood vessel. My BS meter works too well to watch that clusterfuck of lies.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 11:59 AM

2. Thanks for the warning

High blood pressure here

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #2)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:56 PM

35. Ditto. And I'm not watching it.

Spent the morning watching reruns of "Mystery Science Theater 3000" and "Monty Python's Flying Circus" on IFC. Much more rewarding.

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Response to Different Drummer (Reply #35)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:36 PM

55. I love Crow!

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #55)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:57 PM

56. He had a good host segment today.

From "The Beast of Yucca Flats."

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:02 PM

3. It's rough going for sure.

Not sure how much longer I'll be listening.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:03 PM

4. Have an NCIS-LA marathon going...

couldn't be bothered with the Repub "defense."

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:17 PM

11. On what channel? Nt

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Response to avebury (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:18 PM

12. Sorry, recorded...

from DVD to my hard drive.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:05 PM

5. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. We need to toughen up in the face of The Lie.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #5)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:29 PM

53. LOL! n/t

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:05 PM

6. Days of lies ahead of us...

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:10 PM

7. Just my opinion: I also have blood pressure problems, and urge Democrats to hang with Adam Schiff.





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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:16 PM

8. I got thru the first half hour or so

Now listening to 432 hz music and cleaning the house.

The blatant lies and distortions effect me on a visceral level. Not gonna put myself thru that today.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:16 PM

9. Not interested.. not watching.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:17 PM

10. I changed the channel.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:20 PM

13. Or depression problems. n/t

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:22 PM

14. Exactly how I feel. I'm sitting with my low BP-ensuring furry companion, just to read the comments

I am vacillating beyond rage and despair at the state of our country and move toward despotism.

My sweet girlie brings comfort, but I'm not sure where to go for a needed "shot" of hope.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:23 PM

15. I know enough not to even turn it on!

It will be one lie after another. No disputing of the facts, just pure BS to buttkiss the orange one.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:26 PM

16. I'm not listening, but I am

occasionally checking MSNBC Live Blog and their real time fact check. Also saw there Lindsey Graham saying the Biden/Burisma better done outside of impeachment. heh, little shit knows that crap's going no where.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:56 PM

17. I'm not watching one minute because McTurtle confessed it would be a sham.

Besides, I watched the Watergate hearings when I was 13 and in much better health.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:58 PM

18. I didn't even bother to turn the TV on

 

I believe Adam Schiff did an spectacular job summarizing the lies these buffoons would bring about as a non-defense.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:59 PM

19. Out to snowshoe with my two standard poodles before the rains come to Maine.

I watched about one minute and quickly decided where I would much rather be. Oh, what a tangled web they weave . . .

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 12:59 PM

20. Once we ended the House Impeachment Inquiry it was clear what was going to happen in the Senate.

What's the point of self-flagellation?

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:00 PM

21. I'm still interested, even with my hypertension.

I noted that the channels I was watching the proceedings on are not carrying it today though. So I have to listen to the radio. But then I wonder if Fox is actually going to carry live audio today instead of mocking the presentation with their paid talking heads?

And of course this is part of the problem.

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Response to Arthur_Frain (Reply #21)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:20 PM

27. Me too

I watched about 45 minutes. Heard "They didn't tell you this" 4 times. 3rd grade reasoning, with very slow delivery. Hope Trump could comprehend, because that is who they were talking to....

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Response to iamateacher (Reply #27)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:07 PM

37. I noted the delivery

And wondered. I thought trump was supposed to be hiring only the best tv lawyers. What I heard was horrendous. No public speaking ability whatsoever, seemingly designed to put people to sleep.

And wondered if that might be the purpose.

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Response to Arthur_Frain (Reply #37)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:17 PM

38. Yes, I think so

His followers need people to talk real slow and use simple words and delivery.
It was so ridiculous that my BP was not at all raised, lol.

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Response to iamateacher (Reply #38)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:29 PM

40. Surprisingly I find myself a bit upbeat actually.

I know the faithful canít be swayed. But anybody else watching this. Anybody with a shred of intelligence, decency, and sense of fair play who looks at this is going to come down on our side.

I think the reason Iím a little upbeat is that Iíve been watching the Democratic Party shoot itself in the foot repeatedly ever since Reagan, when it seemed to me that if they just avoided doing that, we could have been so much more successful over the preceding 30 years.

This has not happened here. Schiff has been the standout prosecutor and all of the democratic house members have done well, but theyíve done stunning, stellar work, when compared with their shouters across the aisle.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:01 PM

22. A fact checking marathon in real time.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:02 PM

23. On this rainy day

I decided to clean out my office. It is a perfect day for such a task.

College basketball is about to begin.

I donít have a history of blood pressure problems.

However, as a former Risk Manager, hazard avoidance is the sane move.

I do appreciate those taking one for the team and watching and reporting.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:03 PM

24. I'm watching today

to show that I can listen to both sides and I would expect the Trump supporters to do to the House Mangers presentation.

Did he just turn around the 'abuse of power' argument.

Yes I have high blood pressure and my doc just upped my med dose.
(BTW - $40 dollars per month!)... and that's just one of my meds.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:15 PM

25. They only have an audience of one they care about...

...and I'm not the one.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:17 PM

26. im not....im binge watching kids baking championship!

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:23 PM

28. I'm not

They all ought to be disbarred for lying to Congress. Itís illegal for witnesses to do it.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:24 PM

29. Hypertension, depression and heart failure here. Ain't goin' there

No how, no way, not never no more.

Two minutes of Cippolone was enough to convince me it was too dangerous.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:24 PM

30. Good news is that Sat is the worst day for ratings.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:29 PM

31. Stopped watching in first hour and the non-stop lies and distortions

I could feel my stomach churning and my blood pressure rising and I want to have a nice Saturday

We will hear the highlights and summary eventually.

What matters now is that the House managers have a response team that are getting out to the media with corrections to fact and that that in 4 days there will be the debate and vote for witnesses and documents.

I recommend everyone spend their time preparing for that and what is coming and take care of being healthy and strong.

I personally wish there could be massage tables set up for the House managers and legal teams and healthy pressed juices and nourishment for them in the next week so they are strong and ready for what they have to deal with.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:37 PM

32. I do have high blood pressure

Hubby told me give him 5 min heads up if I turn on so he can leave. I told him not watching.

I can only do small portions of news and I read here and other news sites. Its all a sham no matter how much facts we gave out so to watch his people blindly lie and support him would drive me nuts.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:44 PM

33. I KNEW to not watch because ALL their arguments will be in bath faith so I watched a Dateline

 

episode, turned out to be a 2 hour one and when I was done so were these 'opening arguments'. I think the brevity of these 'arguments' says a lot.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 01:51 PM

34. We have heard some version of this for the last four years.

If any of their lips are moving they are lying. So I donít need to listen. And watching them is dangerous for my tv.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #34)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:33 PM

54. Tee hee!

Someone here is keeping socks at their side so they can throw the socks at the screen. What a great idea!

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:02 PM

36. When they told me I had high blood pressure

I thought--good--then my blood can reach all of my extremities.
I can't watch politics on the weekends--Jeannie is home and she does not
abide politics. That's OK, I have enough outrage for both of us.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:28 PM

39. I can't watch those liars. A better use of your day:

Prepare your action list for the 2020 election and begin actions:

# 1. Verify that you are registered on the voter's roll of your current congressional district. Important for those of us who moved into another congressional district since the 2018 election. Changes like that create opportunities for mischief by Repugs with access to the voter data base -- your data could have been corrupted or deleted.
# 2. Begin monthly donations to your DEM governor candidate.
etc.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:29 PM

41. Is anyone shouting "Not true!" likd Susan Collins shouted last night at Schiff?

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:33 PM

42. Thank you, i had already surmised as much and didn't plan to watch.

You just confirmed what I knew would be happening - lie-a-second-athon and I absolutely can't take it. Was getting really stressed during the inital statements because not one damn thing they said was true - I mean every word of it was a lie. Watched maybe 5 min and that was it, my screaming did nothing but hurt my throat and raise my bloodpressure & stress levels - so turned it off. I feel a little hypocritical since I was so strong in urging everyone to watch the trial & learn stuff, but there's a huge difference. OUr case is fact based and theirs is fabrications, twists of the actual truth and defamations & degradations of the constitution so I will not deign to give him any of my time.

Just wonder if next week the trial will also start at 1 or since it's the dotard, they will start earlier - which will be yet another cheat by the worst person to ever steal office in this country.

I will turn the tv back on when it's question time, although I might have to turn it off during Cruz and other of the worst idiots time?

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:41 PM

43. Is a good disclaimer.

Know yourself and how to take in the constant barrage. It is insidiously, and Iíd argue, intentionally inflaming.

I can handle it with the outlet that is live posting on DU during these impeachment trial* proceedings - BUT, that is me.

I have been encouraging engagement in the live threads, but thatís just one niche of engagement in all of this.

Thank you, Atticus - certainly do not want folks harmed.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:49 PM

44. I usually dvr AM Joy and when I turned on my tv msnbc was on and the lawyer was criticizing why

There were no witnesses. Immediately changed the channel to TCM.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:50 PM

45. I haven't watched any of the republican's defense of Trump.

It's evident they have no intention of doing what's right and no interest in truth.
Schiff's words fell on deaf ears.
It all go back to the old saying, "No one is so blind as he who will not see, and no one is so deaf as he who will not hear."

The Republicans have always been a bit on the dumb side, mentally, but not vocally.
And, they certainly have selective sight and hearing.

They are a lost cause as far as doing what is right and true.
I only hope the nation can survive the Trump shit show.

Patrick Phillips

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 02:55 PM

46. I haven't watched a minute. I can't stand it. Just read DU and other Dem sites.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 03:01 PM

47. I watched.

If you didn't, you can't refute their defense. We do accuse MAGA's of accepting what they are told, not what they see or hear on their own.

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Response to rickford66 (Reply #47)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:18 PM

48. You cant refute their defense anyway you wont get through to them

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Response to Fullduplexxx (Reply #48)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 04:31 PM

49. I want the ability to refute the defense with people I know.

I may not get through, but I need facts on any argument I make.

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:23 PM

50. Personally, I think everyone of the senate republican thugs just cost them their elections...

by being so blatantly pro rump, by blatantly ignoring the evidence laid out before them, they've lost the respect of a lot of people, as they well should.

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #50)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 05:26 PM

51. I hope so.

 

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:25 PM

52. I intended to watch, but

I woke up, listened for a minute or two, fell asleep, then woke up again when they were wrapping up. So, I missed most of it.

The only thing thing I got was twisted logic, mostly regarding the omission of some part of someone's answer that the Repubs claim means something, when the part was irrelevant and probably cut because of the artificial time constraints the Repubs put on the Dems.

Also, trying to persuade us that Trump didn't go somewhere because he wanted to stay home and monitor a hurricane--gawd, everyone knows that Trump doesn't go places that are dangerous--he made Pence go, although I didn't fact check that, and don't know if that is also a lie. Point is, no one is going to believe that.

And, that last guy was speaking like he was half awake. Schiff is a dynamic speaker, impassioned in his defense of our Democracy, and occasionally repeated an emphasis phrase for the emotion of it. This last Repub just kept repeating phrases so that he was saying everything twice. It was weird.

I believe that we should watch, so we know if they have anything. I don't expect to hear anything we don't already think they will say. I would hope that Trump gets agitated over the two tapes and orders them to say something dumb. Is there not a question and answer period we get?

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Response to Atticus (Original post)

Sat Jan 25, 2020, 06:58 PM

57. Not gonna stress my ulcers or blood pressure!

Australian open and a good British mystery on Audible filled my Saturday!!

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