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Thu Jan 16, 2020, 08:56 AM

The scariest thing from Rachel's interview.

This bears repeating. At the end of the interview last night, Rachel asked Parnas why he decided to speak out, his answer was chilling.

He said he felt he would be safer if he told what he knew. He was afraid of being murdered. This is how low Trump and his Republican cult have fallen. When Trump said he could shoot someone on 5th Avenue and get away with it, 5th Avenue was just an example.

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Reply The scariest thing from Rachel's interview. (Original post)
gab13by13 Jan 2020 OP
Poiuyt Jan 2020 #1
GoCubsGo Jan 2020 #2
FM123 Jan 2020 #6
kentuck Jan 2020 #9
H2O Man Jan 2020 #36
ancianita Jan 2020 #12
BuffaloJackalope Jan 2020 #16
Perseus Jan 2020 #21
KSNY Jan 2020 #27
tiptonic Jan 2020 #41
Earth Bound Misfit Jan 2020 #62
panfluteman Jan 2020 #64
rurallib Jan 2020 #3
Vinca Jan 2020 #4
Zoonart Jan 2020 #5
Perseus Jan 2020 #20
patphil Jan 2020 #65
yardwork Jan 2020 #7
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #24
yardwork Jan 2020 #26
kentuck Jan 2020 #8
Perseus Jan 2020 #18
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #25
kentuck Jan 2020 #28
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #42
Pachamama Jan 2020 #32
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #39
3Hotdogs Jan 2020 #10
tavernier Jan 2020 #13
Dream Girl Jan 2020 #14
Perseus Jan 2020 #17
MartyTheGreek Jan 2020 #19
Pachamama Jan 2020 #33
Ligyron Jan 2020 #58
3Hotdogs Jan 2020 #61
Lonestarblue Jan 2020 #11
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #29
gab13by13 Jan 2020 #40
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #45
gab13by13 Jan 2020 #47
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #55
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #60
Perseus Jan 2020 #15
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #30
blakstoneranger Jan 2020 #22
gab13by13 Jan 2020 #23
zentrum Jan 2020 #31
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #44
Texin Jan 2020 #34
Polly Hennessey Jan 2020 #35
MrModerate Jan 2020 #37
Dukkha Jan 2020 #38
Cousin Dupree Jan 2020 #43
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #46
gab13by13 Jan 2020 #48
Texin Jan 2020 #51
crickets Jan 2020 #57
Laura PourMeADrink Jan 2020 #59
intrepidity Jan 2020 #69
ecstatic Jan 2020 #63
malaise Jan 2020 #49
Texin Jan 2020 #52
gab13by13 Jan 2020 #53
malaise Jan 2020 #54
SayItLoud Jan 2020 #50
ElementaryPenguin Jan 2020 #56
BigmanPigman Jan 2020 #66
Wawannabe Jan 2020 #67
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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 08:58 AM

1. He's probably more afraid of getting assassinated by Putin than by trump.

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:04 AM

2. Yep.

Although they wouldn't likely go after him directly, Trump and his fellow GOPers wouldn't stand in Putin's way.

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:19 AM

6. I think you could be right.

I remember reading this article about 14 businessmen that all died in the UK and they were suspected to be hits by the Kremlin. Weird stuff too like falling out of building windows to be impaled on fence spikes... https://www.buzzfeed.com/heidiblake/from-russia-with-blood-14-suspected-hits-on-british-soil

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:24 AM

9. I think you are probably right?

This is much deeper than us common folks know.

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Response to kentuck (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:02 AM

36. +1

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:39 AM

12. My take on them is that they take turns with posing & acting as geopolitical good cop/bad cop.

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:48 AM

16. Weren't Hyde & Co dealing with the Russian mafia while stalking Yovanovich?

 

Parnes would know.

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:53 AM

21. trump is Putin's lapdog, the order may come from Putin but the execution will come from the con

 

I think that is what happened to Epstein.

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Response to Perseus (Reply #21)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:45 AM

27. Agree

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:13 AM

41. Yep

He knows too much, pure and simple. Putin seems to be cleaning house, at home and I bet this guy was on his list, to be "sanitized".

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #1)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:49 PM

62. He said he's more afraid of Barr...

than "these criminals"

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #1)

Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:20 AM

64. Yeah - I'll second that.

Trump's uncle Vlad has really taken assassination technology to a new level.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:06 AM

3. I felt a chill go down my spine when that came up

but it seems to make good sense.
If something happens tp Parnas who had the most to gain from his death from what we know now.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:07 AM

4. Scarborough said something about that this morning and I swear he nearly added

"like Epstein." Lev is safer today than he was yesterday.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:16 AM

5. Does not want to end up as a LOOSE END.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #4)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:51 AM

20. That was Epstein's error, he thought he could rely on his "friends" so he kept quiet

 

Epstein should have come up with the goods immediately. He should have asked for a press conference.

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Response to Perseus (Reply #20)

Fri Jan 17, 2020, 12:54 AM

65. What he didn't realize was that he could rely on his "friends" to keep him quiet.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:20 AM

7. Putin assassinates people.

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Response to yardwork (Reply #7)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:40 AM

24. Trump assassinates people. Glad Iran taking to Hague

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #24)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:42 AM

26. Good point. Trump now has an assassination of his own.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:22 AM

8. He did seem very, very conscious of the situation he was in...

He knew a lot. What part did his lawyer play?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #8)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:50 AM

18. His lawyer was most probably on the alert to make sure Lev would not go past what was agreed

 

You could see him chewing on every word that was said, he was definitely alert.

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Response to Perseus (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:41 AM

25. Yes and very very careful not to incriminate himself with attempted murder charge.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:47 AM

28. I am reminded that birds of a feather flock together.

What did he and Rudy Giuliani, the massive stack of bullshit, have in common?

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Response to kentuck (Reply #28)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:15 AM

42. And don't forget the way Parnas described "the team"

Included fine "Christian" Pence and chief law enforcement of the land AG FuBarr!

Trump started without Rudy. He started with many decent (hesitate to say that) people around him. Then he systematically rid them all.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #25)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:55 AM

32. +10000000 For the Win

This is exactly what I thought last night watching the interview.

I believe Parnas was telling the truth and his reason for talking, similar to Michael Cohen, is that it is to stay alive.

I believe Parnas was telling the truth throughout - except when it came to Robert Hyde....I think he was threading the needle and being very careful and telling a story that purposely distanced him from Robert Hyde and painted him as someone he doesn't really know and is an alcoholic who was on a week long bender. Possibly all true - but under clear advisement from his lawyer sitting next to him who is also trying to defend him of charges from the SDNY, he said what he did very carefully.

Parnas knows what happened to Jeffrey Epstein. He knows who and what is involved and he knows that he has a big bullseye on him from both Trump and Putin and his only chance of staying alive, even just for a little while is to sing like a bird.

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Response to Pachamama (Reply #32)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:11 AM

39. More on Hyde from Hartford Courant last night

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:35 AM

10. I am, right now, at the beginning of writing my greatesst song, "The Ballad of Jeffery Epstein."

In a lonely jail cell, watched by Billy Barr,
when ya cross the wrong people, don't matter who you are
- or how much money ya had,

when ya got the names, and ya just might spill 'em
Billy's comin' for ya in the darkest hour of the night.

Jailers go for naps
videotapes go "snap"
cell doors forget to unlock,



I'll work on it some more when I get home.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:46 AM

13. Hmmm

I like it.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:47 AM

14. Not bad!

 

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:49 AM

17. So far very good

 

Can't wait to hear the complete song.

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:51 AM

19. Can I add to your song for consideration... I have to find levity in the stuff!

"In a lonely jail cell, watched by Billy Barr,
when ya cross the wrong people, don't matter who you are
- or how much money ya had,

when ya got the names, and ya just might spill 'em
Billy's comin' for ya in the darkest hour of the night.

Jailers behind Barrs, go for wee night dirt naps
then suddenly videotapes go "snap"
cell doors forget to unlock, and in the quiet of night,
no more tickety-toc."

Here's a rhyme I wrote yesterday:

Magaís Be SayinÖ

MAGAs be saying, but heís our O.J.
Trump be like, whereís my Roy Cohn
Michael Cohen be sayin, this is real, Iím in jail!
Flynn be like me too, waddabout Hillary?

Hillary be like, Clinton Foundation Still Open!
SDNY FBI be sayin, Trump Foundation Shut Down!
Pelosi be like, the House Impeached the Don!
Teflon Don be sayin, fake news!

Many republican Senators now be sayin, Wait a minute!

Just sayin!

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:56 AM

33. I want to hear more



That is a good beginning...

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Response to 3Hotdogs (Reply #10)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:17 PM

58. Well, here are my effort in the spirit of collaboration


In a lonely jail cell, watched by Billy Barr,
when ya cross the wrong people, don't matter who you are
- or how much money ya had, it will all go bad

when ya got the names, and ya just might spill 'em
Billy's comin' for ya in the darkest hour of the night
and some one's gonna kill'em.

Jailers go for naps
videotapes go "snap"
cell doors forget to unlock,
when other jailers take a crap

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Response to Ligyron (Reply #58)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 05:13 PM

61. I think, unlock should be changed to lock.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:35 AM

11. Putin and his Russian mafia are behind this.

Itís no accident that Firtash, Russian oligarch and mobster, funded this operation. I hope this all breaks open, but Iím hesitant to do a victory dance yet. Trump has skated on any number of issues that should have brought him down. But so long as most of the media treat him as just a harmless president who does things differently, public opinion will not change. Hats off to Rachel for going after and nailing this interview. We need more such exposes because the corrupt Trump administration will do nothing. Itís a sad commentary on the state of our government when there is no one left who will actually investigate and enforce the law. AG Barr is just as corrupt as Trump and will prevent the FBI from investigating anything.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #11)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:49 AM

29. Isn't it amazing that trump knew not to get any instruction from

him directly on tape/paper? Closest we have is the infamous phone call with Zelenski and overheard call at that wine lunch. This indicates a criminal mind right there. And picking his personal atty to do his dirty business as well. Hopes of declaring client/atty privilege. Probably thinking "let THEM prove it was related to a crime, I can tie that up for years, and I've got my boy Kavenaugh as blocker."

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #29)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:11 AM

40. Democrats need to subpoena Parnas, or get a deposition,

even if it's just in the House. No way Trump can claim executive privilege since Trump claims he knows nothing about Parnas. If he claims executive privilege he is admitting to dealing with Parnas.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #40)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:23 AM

45. How does that work? They said that Dems were waiting

For Parnas documents before they turned over articles. But there is no mention of Parnas in the actual articles? And that makes him off limits during Impeachment trial? He has to be subpoenaed & under oath? If House does that, how does it get to Senate?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #45)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:38 AM

47. I really don't know either,

but even if it can't be included in the trial it will serve a purpose if it is publicized to the world and to Senate Republicans up for reelection. We need a legal scholar here to see if Parnas' testimony can be added as an addendum.

Also, do you trust Bolton to testify and tell the truth? I wouldn't put it past him to lie under oath. He could be a false flag operation. I put nothing past these bastards.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #47)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:06 PM

55. Yes and I've never heard anyone explain what a "trial"

Would look like with zero witnesses. Just yapping only worst than House hearing? Evidently that won't happen. But let's just say they won't let Sondland testify, for example. Would it be like in court, his info is not admissable to even talk about it?

Hell no I don't trust Bolton. My guess is he will thread the needle just like Sondland did. Admit to some of it but not all. With Sondland, remember he said trump only concerned about Burisma (and not Biden). That way they can prop up the idea that trump after corruption only. This was despite what the eye witness at the wine lunch said and they trashed him.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #47)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:35 PM

60. Press just asked Pelosi same question and she avoided

answering and no followup asked. But gather we are at the mercy of a majority of the Senate as to whether Parnas is called or not. Legal expert on CNN said they (GOP) wants to act more like an appeals court (look at evidence from house only) than a trial court where more and new evidence can be added. Perhaps only way to do it is to reconvene house Impeachment and create amended articles? Time!!!! All takes time.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:47 AM

15. I do believe that the same threats have reached many of the GOP members and that is why

 

they continue to support and defend the con, they are afraid for their families and their own lives.

I repeat, WE HAVE A MAFIA ADMINISTRATION, the con has never understood about consequences and I do believe he would shoot someone on 5th Ave if he thought it would help him at the moment because he cannot see what happens beyond the moment of his actions.

Parnas knows Putin will try to kill him, and he knows that the con (Putin's lapdog) will follow orders from Putin because he doesn't care what happens to anyone but himself.

I hope that GOP members who have been threatened understand that the best way to protect their families and themselves is to come out and tell all. If they all come out and tell all at the same time they won't be able to do anything to them.

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Response to Perseus (Reply #15)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:51 AM

30. Parnas did drop Kevin McCarthy's name last night

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:04 AM

22. TRUMP WAS ALREADY LOW!

 

HE JUST BROUGHT THE REST OF THE DESPERATE REPUBLICAN PARTY AND THE EVANGELICALS DOWN TO HIS LEVEL. It's the money baby, all of that money--in the hands of an idiot!

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Response to blakstoneranger (Reply #22)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:12 AM

23. Yes, spot on,

and Democrats, reporters, and the public need to keep shining a light on the Republican cockroaches. As I said in another post, we may not be able to stomp on them but we can make them run. This story must not go away, if this doesn't stay on the front page we are lost.

Dems need to do what Lieu just did, mock the bastards, expose them, they don't deserve civil discourse because they are killing America.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 10:52 AM

31. Mafia tactics are not how they've fallen.

They are how they've risen.

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Response to zentrum (Reply #31)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:18 AM

44. Interesting! Building a loyal and corrupt team. Exactly

What trump did

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:01 AM

34. I think he realized he was the intended fall guy, and he didn't want to be Epsteined.

When you've got a Bill Barr involved in the same plot they've got you running, you've got a pretty compelling reason to just spill the beans on everyone's involvement in this cabal and do it as publicly as humanly possible. It's tantamount to writing a letter to someone and sending it to them with the message printed on the envelope, "In the event of my death or disappearance".

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:01 AM

35. And this is what this great country has become.

The sadness is overwhelming. Thanks to tRump, McConnell, all of the Republicans, and all of the people who voted for them, we are now no better than any thuggish grubby corrupt authoritarian country.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:07 AM

37. Yeah. Trump could "shoot" someone in a conference room at the Saudi Embassy...

 

In Istanbul, or perhaps on a street outside our Consulate in Kyiv. Or via nerve gas in a cathedral city in the UK. Same diff.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:09 AM

38. He lives in a world full of house painters

all eager for work.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:16 AM

43. And murder is what was planned for Marie Yovanovitch too

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Response to Cousin Dupree (Reply #43)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:26 AM

46. But why? Just because that's what they always do over there?

I want to re-read her testimony. She just seemed so mild mannered and nonoffensive. Hardly someone a criminal would be worried about. Why not just transfer her out?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #46)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:43 AM

48. She was a road block to Burisma/Biden conspiracy.

She debunked it instead of promoting it. She constantly spoke badly about the former Ukrainian prosecutor calling him corrupt. He was behind a lot of the push to get rid of her.

I'm still waiting for the shady gas deals to be exposed, that's why Rick Perry was involved. She most likely would have been a road block to those corrupt gas deals.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #48)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:48 AM

51. Exactly. She was *inconvenient* to a lot of players in a lot of playing fields.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #48)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:17 PM

57. Yep. She was in the way, and she was too honest. It's that simple. nt

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #48)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:28 PM

59. Ha..thought you meant to say "shady ass" but "shady gas"

fits too. You are so right..sometimes we forget that we must ALWAYS follow the money and look at the $$ angle. Jeez Perry would have been better off just staying in Texas executing people for fun.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #46)

Fri Jan 17, 2020, 04:31 AM

69. During Poroshenko's reign, she appears to have stepped on some corrupt toes

Namely, those of corrupt-AG Letsenko.

Letsenko seems to have been the origin of wanting her out of Ukraine.

Then their elections happened, Zelinsky came aboard, and Team Rudy had to restrategize. They were no doubt counting on Letsenko to get the "Burisma/Biden" train rolling.

At least, that's how it seems to me, today.

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Response to Cousin Dupree (Reply #43)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:55 PM

63. All so he could get reelected. SMFH. nt

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:47 AM

49. You know what's even scarier

The entire kakistocracy has not responded. They are scared shitless

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Response to malaise (Reply #49)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:49 AM

52. You know, I wish I believed that was true. But these thugs act with impunity. They are not afraid.

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Response to malaise (Reply #49)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:59 AM

53. I just watched a video

where Manu Raju, I know the spelling of his name is wrong, the little guy from CNN. He tried to interview Martha McSally who is running for Senate in Arizona. Manu asked her if she would consider the new evidence that was just produced about Ukraine. She went ballistic on him, ignored his question by simply calling him a liberal hack, twice.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #53)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:01 PM

54. They are all very angry

and exposed- the jig is up - ReTHUGs have all been caught.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 11:48 AM

50. The " I can shoot someone on 5th Ave and get away with it" . is

PROJECTION....once again. The roadmap to everything tRUMP is simple. Just investigate what he says.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 12:08 PM

56. He knows Jeffrey Epstein was murdered in jail.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:05 AM

66. He said he is afraid of Barr especially.

He is mostly afraid of the DOJ.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 17, 2020, 01:56 AM

67. The United States

Is. Being. Governed. By. Mafia.

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Response to gab13by13 (Original post)

Fri Jan 17, 2020, 03:11 AM

68. I wouldn't put it past these criminals to put a hit on Parnas.

 

The Republican Party is an organized crime entity.This is what organized crime does.

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