Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:35 AM
Whiskeytide (3,254 posts)
Someone, somewhere, KNOWS what was ...
... planned for Ambassador Yavonovitch. Someone with the means and authority realized it and set up the expedited extraction. Someone took steps to protect her.
It’s time that someone came forward publicly with what they know.
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Whiskeytide | Jan 2020 | OP |
lsewpershad | Jan 2020 | #1 | |
Cracklin Charlie | Jan 2020 | #2 | |
PatSeg | Jan 2020 | #6 | |
global1 | Jan 2020 | #7 | |
bluestarone | Jan 2020 | #11 | |
Arazi | Jan 2020 | #12 | |
KPN | Jan 2020 | #18 | |
tblue37 | Jan 2020 | #15 | |
PandoraAwakened | Jan 2020 | #3 | |
Duppers | Jan 2020 | #8 | |
Whiskeytide | Jan 2020 | #10 | |
greenjar_01 | Jan 2020 | #13 | |
KPN | Jan 2020 | #19 | |
lame54 | Jan 2020 | #21 | |
Raven | Jan 2020 | #4 | |
bucolic_frolic | Jan 2020 | #5 | |
gab13by13 | Jan 2020 | #9 | |
mopinko | Jan 2020 | #14 | |
KPN | Jan 2020 | #16 | |
blakstoneranger | Jan 2020 | #17 | |
dweller | Jan 2020 | #20 |
Response to Whiskeytide (Original post)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:37 AM
lsewpershad (2,591 posts)
1. Mmmhhhmmm
Response to Whiskeytide (Original post)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:55 AM
Cracklin Charlie (9,399 posts)
2. Who called her and told her to leave immediately?
I seem to recall from her house testimony that the caller was a woman, but that could be wrong.
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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #2)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:38 AM
PatSeg (36,672 posts)
6. Yes
That is the first thing that popped in my head. That person was very concerned for her safety. It sounded very intimidating.
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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #2)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:46 AM
global1 (22,351 posts)
7. Has Anyone Asked Ambassador Yavonovitch Who It Was That Called Her And.....
told her to get out of the country that she was in danger?
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Response to global1 (Reply #7)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:11 AM
bluestarone (11,463 posts)
11. THIS!!
She knows who called her! That's GOOD! It will explode in their face, by the time it's over!
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Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #2)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:13 AM
Arazi (4,342 posts)
12. Carol Perez from the State Dept
Around 10 pm Kyiv time, Yovanovitch says, she got a call from the State Department’s director general, Carol Perez. “She said that she was giving me a heads-up, that things were going wrong, kind of off the track,” Yovanovitch said. Perez told her that there was “nervousness” among State Department leadership and in the White House but did not explain further.
About three hours later — around 1 am in Kyiv — Perez called Yovanovitch back and said she had to leave Ukraine immediately. https://www.vox.com/2019/11/4/20948280/impeachment-transcripts-marie-yovanovitch Don't forget, Pompeo said he couldn't defend her because he thought she'd get mean tweets from #Traitor if he did |
Response to Arazi (Reply #12)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:51 AM
KPN (11,789 posts)
18. Mean tweets being bullets, poison, an unfortunate accident
or lethal shiv.
This fucking administration and most of the GOP are a cabal. They need to be outed, prosecuted and held fully accountable if we hope to put this nation back together. This is frightening stuff. It’s not a game, it’s not politics, it’s not white collar crime. It needs to be recognized for and called what it is. It’s a coup by a criminal cabal enabled by big money interests. This isn’t corruption, it’s a criminal take-over — a coup! |
Response to Cracklin Charlie (Reply #2)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:29 AM
tblue37 (45,927 posts)
15. State Department director general Carol Perez. nt
Response to Whiskeytide (Original post)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:00 AM
PandoraAwakened (905 posts)
3. Referring to Yavonovitch's Congressional testimony,
another woman in the State Dept. delivered a cryptic "get out now" phone call to her, but it was Ukranian officials who actually warned her she was in imminent physical danger.
Maybe Zelensky knew exactly what tRump meant when the Narcissist-in-Chief told the Ukranian president by phone, "She's going to go through some things." I imagine Zelensky wanted nothing to do with a hit job on Ukranian soil that he would then be blamed for. |
Response to PandoraAwakened (Reply #3)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:53 AM
Duppers (21,499 posts)
8. I think you're right.
TRump, Inc. is Russian mafia and the rethugians know it. But rank & file rethugians voters will stay in denial.
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Response to PandoraAwakened (Reply #3)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:11 AM
Whiskeytide (3,254 posts)
10. Agreed. I suspect that Ukrainian ...
... intelligence services or some other law enforcement agency was picking up intel on the scheme, and alerted the new president’s people.
But they would have had to contact someone in the US government with their concerns to get the extraction done. THAT person needs to speak up - unless, I guess, it might compromise their position. But the more I think about it as I type this, maybe they have already. Could that be the actual whistleblower that got this ball rolling in the first place? |
Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #10)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:13 AM
greenjar_01 (4,306 posts)
13. Hyde explicitly states that continued surveillance will be noticed in Ukraine
That's what his people in Ukraine said to him: Shit or get off the pot. We can't keep up this surveillance without being noticed.
None of this is drunk talk, or fabulist talk. He had people there conducting surveillance who were themselves worried about counter-surveillance. It's beyond fucking belief. |
Response to greenjar_01 (Reply #13)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:56 AM
KPN (11,789 posts)
19. If this stuff is in fact true, that's exactly what this sounds like -- time to shit or get
off the pot. An apt observation and description.
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Response to PandoraAwakened (Reply #3)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 03:17 PM
lame54 (29,684 posts)
21. trump said that 2 months later
Response to Whiskeytide (Original post)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:02 AM
Raven (12,998 posts)
4. You are absolutely right. Someone knew. She had "heavy security" and was told to get out of the
country on the next flight. That's one hell of a way to lose your job!
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Response to Whiskeytide (Original post)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:05 AM
bucolic_frolic (23,092 posts)
5. I giant chess game is being played out
espionage and counterintelligence. They have cast a very big net this time.
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Response to Whiskeytide (Original post)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:06 AM
gab13by13 (2,867 posts)
9. Easier said than done,
Put yourself in that person or persons shoes. Coming out would take tremendous courage, it is darn scary to buck the Russian mob.
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Response to Whiskeytide (Original post)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:26 AM
mopinko (58,962 posts)
14. iirc, state dept docs were subpoenaed.
am i wrong? maybe not subpoenaed, but certainly asked for and stonewalled.
you know there are emails. |
Response to Whiskeytide (Original post)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:43 AM
KPN (11,789 posts)
16. THIS! Exactly what came to mind once these new revelations
became clear to me.
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Response to Whiskeytide (Original post)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:50 AM
blakstoneranger (333 posts)
17. THEY ALL KNOW!!
Because they all helped or chipped in where they could. Doesn't matter to them because 1. It's for trump, and 2. It's against a democrat. This is why his base never falters to support him. They're cheering him on. Hillary was right a bunch of deplorable. Wow, the republicans must be really desparate to MAGA. It's all obama's fault.
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Response to Whiskeytide (Original post)
Wed Jan 15, 2020, 03:05 PM
dweller (18,163 posts)
20. i wonder what Bolton might have to say about this
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