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Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:16 AM

"Thumbs-Up": When a (universally-understood) positive gesture goes BAD

I'm a child of the seventies. All of us in America, everyone with a thumb, expressed approval & enthusiasm with the signal. There are so many pics from that time onward indicating joy or sarcasm from children and adults of every background. I myself was making the gesture up until, I don't know, 3 years ago?

I loathe it now. I've lost all regard for the "thumbs up". I have no use for it. I've seen too, too many pictures of pasty rich powerful ugly nasty cruel old men using it. And their slimy, mean smiles. It feels like they're giving me the finger.

Sometimes, this is how it's done, I think: working on people's heads, turning the meaning of something around completely. Incidentally, if I wanted to destroy another nation from within, I'd start with its very language, and I think this is no different.



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Reply "Thumbs-Up": When a (universally-understood) positive gesture goes BAD (Original post)
Sugar Smack Jan 2020 OP
Ohiogal Jan 2020 #1
enough Jan 2020 #2
Sugar Smack Jan 2020 #10
Sugar Smack Jan 2020 #4
smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #20
Skidmore Jan 2020 #3
brush Jan 2020 #7
djg21 Jan 2020 #22
N_E_1 for Tennis Jan 2020 #5
Sugar Smack Jan 2020 #6
Pope George Ringo II Jan 2020 #8
Sugar Smack Jan 2020 #9
Pope George Ringo II Jan 2020 #23
Talitha Jan 2020 #11
Sugar Smack Jan 2020 #18
Wounded Bear Jan 2020 #24
Squinch Jan 2020 #12
Codeine Jan 2020 #15
Sugar Smack Jan 2020 #17
Squinch Jan 2020 #21
Codeine Jan 2020 #13
Baitball Blogger Jan 2020 #14
DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2020 #16
Sugar Smack Jan 2020 #19


Response to Ohiogal (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:21 AM

2. Truly.

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Response to enough (Reply #2)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 10:11 AM

10. That in particular was among the most

odious things he could have done that day.

Surrounded by women in scrubs, double thumbs up in another pic. They have their hands all over him. He has on the ugliest smile.

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:26 AM

4. That was a SLAP in the face, horrible.

I'd long-been done with thumbs-upping anything (even on social media).

For you, this symbol agrees with me at the moment:

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Response to Ohiogal (Reply #1)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:55 AM

20. That was one of the most sickening things he has ever done.

He is a vile, disgusting man.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Original post)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:24 AM

3. Trump and the

right have coopted and spoiled so many of the symbols commonly used in the culture at large.

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Response to Skidmore (Reply #3)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:36 AM

7. Yes, also the A-ok sign. It now signals white supremacy.

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Response to brush (Reply #7)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 02:28 PM

22. Don't scuba dive.

 

The thumbs up and ok signs are universally used to communicate underwater.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Original post)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:27 AM

5. He has a truly odd shaped thumb...

Itís as if he sucked it well into adolescence.

And another sign sent down the crapper... the ďokĒ sign...now itís all white supremacy.

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Response to N_E_1 for Tennis (Reply #5)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:34 AM

6. Exactly- the "OK" sign.

That's another gesture I saw just EVERYONE in the 70s using. All my teachers, everyone.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Original post)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:38 AM

8. There are times I've got to use it.

During a meal out, if my server asks how the food is while I'm in the middle of chewing, I either spit food, give a thumbs up, flash an OK, or make them sit there for a minute. The thumbs up seems the lesser evil.

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Response to Pope George Ringo II (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:54 AM

9. In that particular instance,

I think what I've done (been so long since that's happened to me ) is nod at them "yes". Because if they expect me to say something back to them with my mouth full, a knife in one hand and a fork in the other, then they get what they get.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Reply #9)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:29 AM

23. It's usually when I'm in a larger group.

I don't eat out by myself--I could cheerfully go the rest of my life without ever eating in a restaurant again--so if I'm doing it that means I've been dragged along on a social expedition. Given enough people in the group, a server is going to check in when somebody is eating, and I figure the decent thing to do is let the server get on with earning a living by giving the clearest answer possible as quickly as possible.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Original post)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:10 AM

11. Hitler did the same thing with the swastika.

It's actually an ancient religious symbol.

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Response to Talitha (Reply #11)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:52 AM

18. A symbol which stood for spirituality

for thousands of years.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Reply #18)

Thu Jan 16, 2020, 09:31 AM

24. And good luck...

It was a favorite of cowboys in the old west and showed up in many early western movies.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Original post)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:22 AM

12. Seriously? Thumbs up is ruined for you now? That's bizarre.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:29 AM

15. He'll get thirsty in India.

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Response to Squinch (Reply #12)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:50 AM

17. What's bizarre is the "president" using it, with a smile, during a tragedy.

Thought I'd explained it in my 2nd paragraph.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Reply #17)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 02:23 PM

21. The president does a lot of disgusting things. I'm not about to allow him to control any of my

actions other than as a great incentive to vote him out.

By your argument, people should also be just too disgusted to play golf, eat chocolate cake, wave, tweet,or have a burger.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Original post)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:28 AM

13. Not thumbs up.

Youíre thinking of something else entirely.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Original post)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:28 AM

14. I didn't allow the Republicans to co-opt my flag and I won't let them do it to a thumbs up.

However, the "okay" sign is one of those hand gestures that will always be suspicious if a white person does it.

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Response to Sugar Smack (Original post)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:31 AM

16. I do fist bumps with septuagenarians at the gym.

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Response to DemocratSinceBirth (Reply #16)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 11:54 AM

19. And I would do a fist bump with you too

if I saw you at the gym!

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