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Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:36 PM

Sounds like Trump may have been involved in a Murder Plot, Yovanovitch

A few good threads, but I wanted to start one with the proper title. They were talking about killing her and she was rushed out of the country for her safety because of it. And Trump had to know.





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Reply Sounds like Trump may have been involved in a Murder Plot, Yovanovitch (Original post)
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 OP
Control-Z Jan 14 #1
AJT Jan 14 #4
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 #6
Control-Z Jan 14 #11
dweller Jan 14 #2
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 #3
Captain Zero Jan 14 #8
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 #12
OliverQ Jan 14 #5
milestogo Jan 14 #7
dalton99a Jan 14 #9
lunasun Jan 14 #15
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 #10
Control-Z Jan 14 #14
lunasun Jan 14 #13
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 #16
Zoonart Jan 14 #39
OliverQ Jan 14 #17
C_U_L8R Jan 14 #18
Leghorn21 Jan 14 #19
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 #20
Leghorn21 Jan 14 #22
bearsfootball516 Jan 14 #27
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 #29
tblue37 Jan 14 #54
Delphinus Jan 14 #30
sarcasmo Jan 14 #21
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 #23
sarcasmo Jan 14 #25
Hortensis Jan 14 #24
triron Jan 14 #47
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 #50
Hortensis Jan 14 #53
Newest Reality Jan 14 #26
Iliyah Jan 14 #28
Leghorn21 Jan 14 #31
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 #32
Kablooie Jan 14 #33
Demsrule86 Jan 14 #37
Kablooie Jan 14 #41
Demsrule86 Jan 14 #42
Kablooie Jan 14 #44
Demsrule86 Jan 14 #55
triron Jan 14 #34
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 #35
Haggis for Breakfast Jan 14 #40
triron Jan 14 #48
Haggis for Breakfast Jan 14 #52
Demsrule86 Jan 14 #36
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 #38
Demsrule86 Jan 14 #43
Demsrule86 Jan 14 #56
world wide wally Jan 14 #45
Johnny2X2X Jan 14 #46
KSNY Jan 14 #49
burrowowl Jan 15 #57
Doodley Jan 14 #51

Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:40 PM

1. Do you have a link or a source?

Thanks!

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Response to Control-Z (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:46 PM

4. This is something

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Response to AJT (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:48 PM

6. Just how the mafia talks like

This was a hit, the were following her and trying to get past her security. My god, Trump's words are so chilling now: "She's going to be going through some things."

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Response to AJT (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:52 PM

11. Oh my gawd.

Thank you for the tweet.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:44 PM

2. 5th avenue was just an hypothetical location

😡

✌🏼

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:50 PM

8. Was Bolton referring to THIS as the 'Drug Deal' ?

Hmmmm

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Response to Captain Zero (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:54 PM

12. Might not have known of the murder plot, but knew they were up to no good

Let's see what he says under oath in public.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:46 PM

5. We can't wait another year for this to possibly end.

We can't depend on Republicans to care about this and remove him. Trump is a tyrant and must be dragged out of the White House and put in handcuffs immediately.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:49 PM

7. Oh My God.

If this doesn't end his presidency, nothing will.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:50 PM

9. Who is the Robert F. Hyde who surfaced in House Intelligence Committee documents?

https://www.courant.com/politics/hc-pol-who-is-robert-hyde-20200114-pkrvqm2q3ngwtcrjywut4s7fzq-story.html
Who is the Robert F. Hyde who surfaced in House Intelligence Committee documents?

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:00 PM

15. Hyde Twitter also why do the well off RW creeps often owe child support ?

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:51 PM

10. Dems are including this in the evidence they are sending to the Senate for impeachment

This is part of it. This is just nuts and Nancy herself has got to be stunned.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:56 PM

14. "snd Nancy herself has" what?

What does Nancy have?

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 07:56 PM

13. He and his are so dangerous . USA -can we wait til election ? Convict/remove trump senators

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:00 PM

16. How will the GOP Senators spin this

Surveillance of a US diplomat with those texts exchanged about negotiating a price and getting her away from security. It's incredibly explosive and damning.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:54 PM

39. Holy shit! How do they spin shopping a hit

On an American Ambasdador?

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:02 PM

17. Robert Hyde sent this tweet on the day Yovanovitch testified

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:06 PM

18. It doesn't seem like his first.

He really is a Putin-wannabe.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:07 PM

19. YEP

RING THE BELL
THE MATCH IS OVER

You ruthless mobster fuckers are

DONE

FINISHED

KAPUT

Hell’s comin for you, and his name is LEV

And the WHISTLEBLOWER

And Amb YOVANOVICH ET AL

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #19)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:12 PM

20. I wish you were right

But they'll spin this, they are depraved.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:17 PM

22. I say NYET, Johnny!! They can't weasel out of this tsunami of FOUL DEPRAVED BAD NEWS

Give it a minute, everybody’s busy

And hey, check this:

On October 2, 2019, Jay Sekulow ... informed ... John Dowd that he had discussed with President Trump 'the issue of representation' and that President Trump 'consents to allowing your representation of Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman.'"

On October 10, Trump denied knowing Parnas.




BOOYAH!!!

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:24 PM

27. You're assuming Republican senators have spines.

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:26 PM

29. So he let Rudy be their lawyer

That’s getting closer.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #29)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:21 PM

54. He let John Dowd be their lawyer, not Rudy. nt

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:26 PM

30. I don't want to agree with you ...

but I'm afraid you are right. AND the compromised repukes do not care!!!

I want it to be told CLEARLY and LOUDLY in every paper and on every TV and Radio station.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:16 PM

21. Yovanovitch had every right to be worried

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Response to sarcasmo (Reply #21)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:19 PM

23. If this were the mob they'd be convicted

The mafia never talks in terms of "Kill her." These conversations are exactly what a hit sounds like, they even go further in talking about getting her away from security, having someone inside, and naming a price. This is the type of conversation that gets mob bosses sent to prison. The FBI knows exactly what they are talking about, and so do we.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #23)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:21 PM

25. Trump never faces any consequences.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:19 PM

24. Fwiw, Yovanovich testified that she did not believe she was in

physical danger. Other sources have reported that Ukraine's corrupt oligarchs/organized crime, who are hand in glove with Putin and are perfectly capable of murder, including by throwing acid on people who cross them, had been working for some months on framing Yovanovich for corruption. That would all seem to fit Trump's "some things are going to happen to her" a bit more than murder, which could have been carried out much more quickly. And everything else would fit as well.

All during this period Yovanovich had friends/allies in the State Department working to protect her and her position, but whatever apparently was going down caused them to warn her that night to get out asap. I'm remembering that the time she left she believed the U.S. had her back and had no idea her own president was plotting with vicious criminals to hurt her, and her shock when she learned of that phone call.

I noticed that no detailed testimony was given about what happened after she returned. A plot to ruin, and perhaps even imprison, her with charges of corruption apparently did not go forward, nor of course did murder. We were merely told that the WH informed her that Trump had lost confidence in her.

Still employed at the State Department but without assignment, career damaged but intact? Doesn't seem nearly enough to satisfy Trump's viciously vengeful nature. I kind of suspect good people were able to protect her from him, an untold story if so, at least to that degree. And at least so far.

Occursto me to wonder if the Russian hackers are trying to develop and further the uncompleted plot against her, as well as others, and thus against Democrats.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:21 PM

47. She did? Why are you 'throwing water' on this?

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Response to triron (Reply #47)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:42 PM

50. She has asked that this be investigated

I don’t think she knew all of this. Through her lawyer she issued a statement demanding an investigation.

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Response to triron (Reply #47)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:18 PM

53. I"m throwing facts as I know them. If Trump ordered

an assassination (and I believe he's probably too cowardly), I'd love, love, love that incredible evil to come out as his impeachment trial is about to begin. And in the meantime, don't you realize what it means that we have evidence that dangerous enemies were tracking our ambassador every moment?

But we're not damned trumpsters here, and no one responsible source is reporting what some here are running away with. If you want discussions where facts that "throw water" aren't allowed, there are other groups on other forums that practically specialize in that. But this is a forum for Democrats, and we don't.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:23 PM

26. Rumor has it...

He won't lose any votes over it. I think 5th avenue was just for illustration purposes.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:25 PM

28. And this is only the beginning . . .

I can image more stunning information. That is why the WH refuses to release their e-mails, etc,

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:39 PM

31. Hey Johnny, take heart - can you read tweets? (some people can, some can't)

Well, “Parnas” is now trending at #6, “Yovanovich” at #8, and “US Ambassador” at #10

Word is OUT and people who can’t imagine a thing like this happening (unlike us) are going, “wha? What? What the living FUCK??”

Hang tough, give this a minute

https://mobile.twitter.com/search?q=%22US+Ambassador%22

US Ambassador tweets ^^^

They all 100% agree with your OP

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Response to Leghorn21 (Reply #31)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:41 PM

32. Excellent

I know he won't, but I wish Obama would Tweet a couple of these stories. It would explode on Twitter, he has more followers Trump.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:42 PM

33. Boy I wish that could be proven.

But it's so inflammatory that without rock solid, documented proof, if would only appear to be partisan hyperbole and would reflect back on Democrats.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:13 PM

37. The emails are pretty shocking.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #37)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:03 PM

41. Yes but they don't come from Trump.

It's concerning that they might have been considering that but underlings planning a murder to benefit Trump doesn't prove that Trump knew and approved of it. There would have to be direct evidence of Trump's involvement for it to be used against him.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #41)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:06 PM

42. We don't know that yet.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #42)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:09 PM

44. If they find proof it would be fantastic but Trump is careful about direct orders in crimes.

Like a mob boss he always hints but never talks directly about crimes he wants committed.
That way he always has deniability if the crimes are exposed.

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Response to Kablooie (Reply #44)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:48 PM

55. They were in his employ...that could be enough.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:42 PM

34. I have wondered about the Khashoggi murder as well.

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Response to triron (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 08:45 PM

35. He was murdered because of what he wrote about Trump

Just scary.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #35)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:58 PM

40. No, he was murdered for his opposition to MBS.

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Response to Haggis for Breakfast (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:23 PM

48. So that's it? Water it down right away huh?

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Response to triron (Reply #48)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:14 PM

52. "Water it down" ???????????????

No, not by any means. But the poster had written that Khashoggi was murdered because he had some how insulted trumpie. Not so. Khashoggi had been very outspoken in his criticism about how MBS had sent Saudi Arabia backwards into an ugly repressive place. By stifling dissent, jailing members of his own family, "disappearing" journalists and critics, terminating the rights of women, Khashoggi was chronicling for the world to see the damage MBS was doing to SA. The royal family had heralded the young prince as the face of the future for SA, but Khashoggi was not buying into the PR campaign. He knew smoke and mirrors when he saw it. Instead, he bravely stood up to them and told the world what he saw. Dangerous for a journalist in such a society, but Khashoggi was a man of integrity and honesty and he was not going to allow the Faud family to get away with the lie that they were making a better future for Saudis.

I respected Jamal Khashoggi as a journalist and I mourn his loss. It was a senseless act of depravity. That the US stood by (and much of the Arab world, too) and allowed this barbaric act to go unexamined is tragic and makes me fear for the future.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:11 PM

36. Oh my fucking God, we have a president that was involved in a murder plot to kill an ambassador

in order to get dirt on a political opponent ...Biden. I saw the Chris Hayes segment.. I hate Trump but I would never have expected this. He has to go in 20 if not before.

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Response to Demsrule86 (Reply #36)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 09:13 PM

38. This is a dangerous time for our Democracy

He has no problem killing to stay in power.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #38)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:08 PM

43. I hope Biden has security...and Nancy Pelosi lots of security too...he hates them both...

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #38)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:49 PM

56. That is so true...he needs to go.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:12 PM

45. Would you allow Trump to babysit your child or other loved one?

Then don't allow him to babysit your country.

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #45)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:16 PM

46. Spot on

Guy probably has never held a baby in his life.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:37 PM

49. Both Hyde and Parnas should be in prison

as well as whoever gave them their orders.

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Response to KSNY (Reply #49)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 12:25 AM

57. Definitely they should be

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:03 PM

51. Makes no difference. This is probably only the tip, but nobody will do anything about it.

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