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Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:15 PM

Top-secret UFO files could cause "grave damage" to U.S. national security if released, Navy says

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/top-secret-ufo-files-could-cause-grave-damage-to-us-national-security-if-released-navy-says/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=80612195

BY BRANDON SPECKTOR

JANUARY 14, 2020 / 10:03 AM / LIVESCIENCE.COM

In November 2004, several U.S. Navy pilots stationed aboard the USS Nimitz encountered a Tic-Tac-shaped UFO darting and dashing over the Pacific Ocean in apparent defiance of the laws of physics. Navy officials dubbed the strange craft an "unidentified aerial phenomenon," but they have remained mum on what, exactly, that phenomenon could've been. Now, unsurprisingly to anyone who's ever considered making a hat out of tinfoil, the military has confirmed they know more than they're letting on.

In response to a recent Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) request, a spokesperson from the Navy's Office of Naval Intelligence (ONI) confirmed that the agency possesses several top-secret documents and at least one classified video pertaining to the 2004 UFO encounter, Vice reported.

According to the ONI spokesperson, these documents were either labeled "SECRET" or "TOP SECRET" by the agencies that provided them, and that sharing the information with the public "would cause exceptionally grave damage to the National Security of the United States."

These top-secret files included several "briefing slides" about the incident, provided to the ONI by an unnamed agency. (Because ONI officials did not classify the slides personally, they are unable to declassify them, the spokesperson added).

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Reply Top-secret UFO files could cause "grave damage" to U.S. national security if released, Navy says (Original post)
Dennis Donovan Jan 14 OP
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SWBTATTReg Jan 14 #2
jberryhill Jan 14 #5
SWBTATTReg Jan 14 #6
jberryhill Jan 14 #7
SWBTATTReg Jan 14 #9
jberryhill Jan 14 #10
SWBTATTReg Jan 14 #11
jberryhill Jan 14 #3
Whiskeytide Jan 14 #12
getagrip_already Jan 14 #14
sarisataka Jan 14 #20
Dream Girl Jan 14 #27
Whiskeytide Jan 15 #33
Odoreida Jan 14 #4
PJMcK Jan 14 #8
jberryhill Jan 14 #13
PJMcK Jan 14 #16
jayfish Jan 14 #17
PJMcK Jan 14 #21
Polybius Jan 15 #34
Runningdawg Jan 14 #15
Brother Buzz Jan 14 #19
HipChick Jan 14 #18
vercetti2021 Jan 14 #22
Hekate Jan 14 #23
rusty fender Jan 14 #24
hunter Jan 14 #25
Piasladic Jan 14 #31
doc03 Jan 14 #26
Xolodno Jan 14 #28
Luz Jan 14 #29
Baclava Jan 14 #30
miyazaki Jan 14 #32

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:18 PM

2. Now go figure. They (the military) were the ones that opened the door to this whole UFO ...

caper, and now they decide to be closed mouth about it? What it is going on?

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #2)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:21 PM

5. The report would detail, among other things....


...which detection, ranging and/or imaging systems aboard the Nimitz were used to attempt to observe the phenomenon, what are the capabilities or operational status of those systems, etc..

Is that something they should publish?

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:24 PM

6. I would think they wouldn't have to reveal how the image(s) were captured. I'm not by any ...

means asking them to reveal technologies etc., never was (the technology isn't of interest to me and I'm sure others perhaps), it's the images themselves.

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:45 PM

7. Yep

Either way, if someone compiled a report on the incident, there is a wealth of information that could not be disclosed, and which has nothing to do with the phenomenon under observation, but a lot to do with the tools used to observe it.

But once again, we find that aliens put a lot of effort into getting into earth's atmosphere from interstellar space, but they are powerless against a bureaucracy to make their existence known.

As noted in the OP:

"These top-secret files included several "briefing slides" about the incident..."

Notice that nobody is trying to hide that there was an incident of an unidentified aerial phenomenon. But since the reports, files and briefing slides aren't public information, then the government is hiding aliens again.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:59 PM

9. Ha, I have to laugh, you're absolutely right in that bureaucracy is more powerful than ...

technology. Amazing isn't it?

I'm just curious as to why the government came forth to finally acknowledge that UFOs and such technology surrounding them existed?

Is it perhaps they believe that someone in the public sector might know more about these events/UFOs then is being acknowledged? If so, I find it rather odd being that revealing such technology (the UFOs and propulsion system(s)) would be in the public interest in being revealed, especially when such technologies would be better hidden than being revealed.

It's just curious to me what purpose are they really shooting for in revealing these events to the public.

More questions raised than being answered, perhaps.

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:02 PM

10. Technology surrounding them?


Um, the government has long acknowledged that people in the military, just like people everywhere else, sometimes look in the sky, see something, and don't know what it is.

Additionally, the US government has jurisdiction over a relatively small portion of the planet's surface, so it's not as if the US government has the ability to determine what everyone on earth can know about what goes on in the sky.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:04 PM

11. How true.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:19 PM

3. One surmises that the slides include information about detection facilities and capabilities


But, of course, there are those who are going to conclude that the classified information is about the critters from outer space, instead of the other information there.

A lot of information about military equipment is classified. If a particular satellite detected or failed to detect an apparent object observed from a ship, then that would disclose information about the systems involved and the detection capabilities of those systems.

But, yeah, instead... Mork.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:06 PM

12. I understand the Romulans are pretty ...

... much up to speed on our technology anyway. But yeah, we need to keep the Klingons in the dark as long as possible.

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Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:10 PM

14. aren't the klingons allies now?

Or did trump piss them off?

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:47 PM

20. Everyone knows

Klingons and tribbles don't get along, so Klingons aren't going anywhere near Trump

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Response to Whiskeytide (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:26 PM

27. Predictable response

Yawn

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Response to Dream Girl (Reply #27)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:26 AM

33. I'm sorry. I didn't realize I was here ...

... to entertain you. Iíll try harder next time.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:20 PM

4. I'm guessing that it has nothing to do with space aliens ...

... and everything to do with secret weapons testing.

There was a lot of that.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:46 PM

8. Really?!

If there are alien life forms, they are almost certainly not the source of UFO sightings.

The military doesn't want our enemies to know or understand our capabilities for observing things.

By the way, the "U" in "UFO" means Unidentified. The person who saw the UFO has no idea what it was. Why must it be aliens?

So silly.

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:07 PM

13. But what if that's what they want us to believe?


I should have gone through school saying that.

"Sure, the math teacher says 2+2=4, but what if that's what she wants us to believe?"

Well, yeah, it is what she wanted us to believe. The plan has deep roots here, PJ. Deep, deep roots.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:29 PM

16. Deep roots

In your example, the square root of 4 is... wait for it... 2!

I want to believe!

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:37 PM

17. Sorry, But The Pilot(s) Who Encountered These Objects...

say(s) we aren't capable of anything like this and won't be any time in the near future.

?t=1676

If the time stamp doesn't work; skip to 27:45

I'm not going to get in an argument about this other than to say humans don't know shit about anything when it comes to physics. We aren't even toddlers yet.

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Response to jayfish (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:48 PM

21. Interesting perspective

Physicists know a little bit more about the universe than fighter pilots.

&t=49s

"Just because you don't know what it is you're looking at doesn't mean it's intelligent aliens visiting from another planet. You just said you don't know what you're looking at!"

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Response to PJMcK (Reply #8)

Wed Jan 15, 2020, 09:47 AM

34. What else do you think it can it be?

If it's not aliens then it's some some sorta hyper advanced drone from another government or a private genius that we still can't replicate 16 years later.

Besides those two explanations, anything else it could be?

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:19 PM

15. When confirmation comes - it won't be from the US

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Response to Runningdawg (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:44 PM

19. If there is any there there, the smart money says Brazil will be the source

At least, that's what George Noory at Coast to Coast is saying.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:40 PM

18. Trump should slip up any day now..

Great impeachment distraction...

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:53 PM

22. Like it's any big secret

Is more damaging if they try to cover up any UFO activity.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:59 PM

23. Calling Fox Mulder... Actually, this might be one of ours, I'm starting to think.

Just don't, for gods' sake, tell Trump.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 04:46 PM

24. Drones

Either ours, Russians, Chinese, or Israelites.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 04:58 PM

25. I'm still calling it as an Easter Egg in the software.

This is what happens when you crib your code off the internet.

I would have made it Sean Connery riding in a big stone head instead of a tictac.

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Response to hunter (Reply #25)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 06:06 PM

31. Oh my God - don't click that link

and whatever you do, don't scroll down to that picture in the middle

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:18 PM

26. I believe if space aliens came here and

saw our leader they would figure there is no intellegent life here and go home.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:41 PM

28. Any species that can traverse vast distances in space...

...is going to be so superior to us that they will arrive completely undetected or with a big bang that will scare the shit out of us.

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Response to Xolodno (Reply #28)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:54 PM

29. this

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:58 PM

30. If the alien federation has broken their harvest quota of our females eggs for their hybrid problem

well, we simply can't have that, we have a treaty, the high council will hear about this

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 06:14 PM

32. This is Ceti Alpha V !!

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