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Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:04 PM

Twelve words to convince those who voted for Trump, not to vote for him again..

Why these words?..The last word is one that most of us have encountered in our lives. We hate the word, " ..BULLY.." Bully is a powerful word, and the other words describe a bully..........

MOST IMPORTANT: This is a short, simple way to convince someone that might have voted for Trump before, not to vote for him again. Also: this sentence is the truth. ...................................
... Since this must be repeated over and over again and because it is the total truth, it could work to A) convince the person in question to vote for our side, or perhaps, B) convince that person who voted for Trump... not to vote at all Either way we win. And this is the total truth & most of us know this is the truth.
....Here is the sentence with the 12 words: ............................................................

Donald Trump is a lying, mean, corrupt, vicious, crooked, cruel, evil,"BULLY!!".......................

There is one group that will despise this sentence, and only one group...That group is the group of BULLIES....
....The rest of us hate bullies, and this sentence describes Trump honestly and simply. If Donald Trump is asked about these words, and says, "I am not a bully" he will then confirm the sentence. He is lying about who he is, therefore, he loses his chance to be elected again. Please think about this idea. It is simple, to the point, easy to remember, and it is the truth. And it is just one sentence, only one sentence..

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:06 PM

1. trumpanzees: 'bully? - you say that like it's a bad thing'

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Response to KG (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:10 PM

2. This is the truth, and that is all that counts. This immediately calls out the truth.

Not bad, not good, simple and easy to remember. And this sentence is the truth!

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Response to Name removed (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:12 PM

5. What you just wrote (above) is also the truth.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 01:44 PM

14. He will just lie about it. Pretty much his way of

explaining away everything he promised and didn't do.

And, why not? It works for him, thanks to our media.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:12 PM

4. That's a feature to these cretins.

Thatís not going to work, it makes us sound weak. Corrupt is better because it can be proven. Calling him a bully just comes off as whiney.

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Response to BlueTsunami2018 (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:21 PM

6. I have added the word .."corrupt" ..to the sentence. Yes, that can be proven and has been proven!!

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:26 PM

7. Could anyone convince you...

Could anyone convince you that you are wrong about that?

If you carefully ponder that question, then you might realize what you are dealing with here. First, there are loyalists that are literally immune to any arguments that you can present to them. Convincing them of anything is merely an invitation to reactions and arguments that will tend to devolve into nothing but a blend of their own identification with their leader and a collection of trivial phrases concerning what they have been told, and then believe, to be absolutely true.

Another point that bears on this conundrum is the mother of all biases, the confirmation bias and I think that applies here. People who are unable to see their own biases, (and that is common) tend to look for, and agree with what confirms their biases. It is rather simple. The interesting part is that the drive towards confirmation can make what you say that contradicts their beliefs fuel for the confirmation in some way, shape or form. Thus, your attempt fails in two ways.

We are dealing with some people who are prone to believing what they think, no matter what it is and their operant conditioning is a habitual, reinforced and automatic set of reactions that they may have little or no control over in that respect. They have x posters pasted up all over the walls of their conceptual shells and that is their "truth" and the wallpaper paste is ignorance.

I am not saying nothing can be done to persuade people, (especially those who do not fall into the above description fully) but it should be clear that conventional means and intelligent, sound, logical, or even factual, evidence-based means will not necessarily have any effect. They might continue to cling to their cherished notions even as the charred remains of their world shudder and fall around them.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:26 PM

8. They voted for him for those reasons, not in spite of them.

As long as he targets "others", "lying, mean, corrupt, vicious, crooked, cruel, evil" is what they wanted. It's what they voted for.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:31 PM

9. Perhaps "they" have second thoughts after more than 3 years...It is those 2nd thought people we need

to convince. Yes, a lot of people are having 2nd thoughts about Trump. And this might convince them. Also, I doubt that we could ever convince 25 percent to change their minds. They are "true believers" But many others are indeed worried about Mr. Trump as being President of the United States.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:41 PM

11. I've seen little evidence of that.

Trump's approval ratings are historically stable. His current approval average is within one point of where he started and he's hasn't dropped under 40% in two years. His base is probably closer to 40% than 25%. We tend to habitually underestimate his (inexplicable) support and there is very little evidence that there's anyone out there to convince.

Most people made up their minds about Trump years ago. Some decades ago. The only people who would support Trump in the first place weren't bothered by his behavior then and haven't been bothered by his behavior the past three years, so why would they be bothered now? If nothing he's done so far swayed them, then nothing will and nothing has really changed.

Convincing Trumpsters is a losing battle. The only way to beat him is to win the turnout battle.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:31 PM

10. Yup

"He talks tough and pwns people...thanks why I like him"

You're not going to change those minds.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:47 PM

12. Hate to break it to you, but I have had no less than three Trump supporters...

(one extended family, the other two co-workers) use the word to describe him and mean it as praise. They love the way he bullies Democrats. I mean orgasmically love that he's a bully. That is what they want from him and they do not shy away from the word. As long as he's bullying folks they disagree with, it's a selling point with them.

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Response to Stuart G (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 01:30 PM

13. When confronted with Trump's latest lie, Democrats should always respond with these 12 words:

Let's remember that Donald Trump is a pathological liar with zero credibility.

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