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Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:28 AM

The hardest job we may have, will be the one after Trump is voted out of office..

In a number of areas...

We will have to debug the White House, phone systems and God only knows what the Russians and North Koreans have bugged.

Of course trying to get our dignity back on the world stage.

Rebuilding our alliances.

So many things..but primal will be

Keeping the investigations going on the Trump mafia. We cannot just let him walk away after he has spent these years dismantling our government.

We do not even know, what we do not know.

It will be so easy to drop the investigations because everyone is so sick of it.. But what we really need to do is double down and help SDNY put the Trumpies in jail.

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Peacetrain Jan 14 OP
NewJeffCT Jan 14 #1
Peacetrain Jan 14 #2
exboyfil Jan 14 #3
Peacetrain Jan 14 #5
LiberalLovinLug Jan 14 #35
lapfog_1 Jan 14 #4
Peacetrain Jan 14 #6
CaptYossarian Jan 14 #21
Name removed Jan 14 #7
marble falls Jan 14 #13
ehrnst Jan 14 #17
marble falls Jan 14 #18
CaptYossarian Jan 14 #22
marble falls Jan 14 #30
CaptYossarian Jan 14 #33
ehrnst Jan 14 #16
marble falls Jan 14 #19
CaptYossarian Jan 14 #25
marble falls Jan 14 #32
CaptYossarian Jan 14 #34
Paka Jan 14 #24
ArcticFox Jan 14 #36
Hortensis Jan 14 #8
Peacetrain Jan 14 #9
Hortensis Jan 14 #11
Pacifist Patriot Jan 14 #10
world wide wally Jan 14 #12
ArcticFox Jan 14 #37
world wide wally Jan 14 #38
ArcticFox Jan 14 #41
C_U_L8R Jan 14 #14
shanti Jan 14 #20
CaptYossarian Jan 14 #28
lostnfound Jan 14 #15
CaptYossarian Jan 14 #31
Fiendish Thingy Jan 14 #23
Efilroft Sul Jan 14 #26
a kennedy Jan 14 #27
dmr Jan 14 #29
Proud Liberal Dem Jan 14 #39
RT Atlanta Jan 14 #40

Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:30 AM

1. I'm not even sure SDNY

is up to the task - I think Barr is blocking them from indicting RICO Rudy

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #1)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:31 AM

2. Barr better starting sweating.. he is in this up to his eyebrows

someone has something on the entire republican party

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:31 AM

3. The economy has been pumped up like a balloon

The next administration is going to be the fall guy for it.

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:34 AM

5. I have been thinking about that also.. we will have to back the next Democratic President

because they are going to have to deal with a deficit nightmare and very little space to go and correct the direction when the economy tanks again

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Response to exboyfil (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:27 PM

35. They do that every time

When they have the power they spend like sailors, while out of the other side of their mouths shout about reducing the debt and deficit. Giant tax break giveaways to themselves and their wealthy donors, paid for by reducing services to average Americans. By the time a Democratic President gets in, the economy is reacting badly.

And then the RW media machine starts their blaming the current administration for it. And how we need good financial business persons like the Republicans to straighten it all out. Of course the MSM just goes along with the long time trope of conservatives = good for the economy and business, liberals = tax and spend and incompetence. Meanwhile Republicans and their wealthy supporters cash in on the Disaster Capitalism marketplace they created, buying up all the smaller businesses and homes that are forced to sell low. Then watch as the Democrats heal the economy for them and their new cheap investments start to rise in value.

Its a win win for them. And I have no idea how to prevent it from repeating over and over. It works every time. At the very least I wish the Democrats would make a greater effort in educating the public about this cycle.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:34 AM

4. a return to normalcy and restoration of the office of the President

Shrub hurt the office, Trump is laying waste to it. Obama did a lot to start the restoration in between, but it will be a Herculean task to fully restore it. I really hope we can do it and address the major issues around the world.

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Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:36 AM

6. It is a Herculean job.. very good description..

And we will have not choice but do it.

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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:26 PM

21. Two terms for the new president, followed by two terms for their Veep might do it.

When I saw debug, I thought of Trump's bedbug issues. That led to crab lice and burning the mattresses.

He and his sperm receptacle, Ivanka, make me ill.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:09 PM

13. IF?!?! Like thats not what Democrats and the Democratic Party stands for already.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 01:44 PM

17. It seems that not everyone here is famliar with the Democratic party.

eyes:

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 01:48 PM

18. Yep. Things that make you go hmmmmmmm.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:30 PM

22. It's not just defeating Trump. You have to beat Putin and Diebold.

The head of Diebold, voting machine manufacturer, is a Republican donor.

There could be a "Man of the Year" scenario anytime. Instead of the double letter, it selects double-chin.

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Response to CaptYossarian (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:51 PM

30. Lets start with the one we can each affect simply by turning up and voting.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #30)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:58 PM

33. I agree. I'm so pissed at WI turning red (first time since '84).

23,000 either voted for the dimwit or stayed home because of the FB BS. Then 2 other rust belt states did the same.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 01:18 PM

16. You seem to be out of the loop on Democratic activity in the House:

House Democrats have passed nearly 400 bills. Trump and Republicans are ignoring them.

You're welcome.

Perhaps you're unfamiliar with the ACA? Continued support and funding of Planned Parenthood, LGBTQ rights, the Social Safety Net....

Or perhaps you tell us what is "milquetoast" about those?

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 01:50 PM

19. Prepare for the cricket serenade.

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Response to ehrnst (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:34 PM

25. McTurtle will insist on the 60-member supermajority in the Senate.

That scum needs to be tried and convicted too.

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Response to CaptYossarian (Reply #25)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:53 PM

32. Kentucky may well deal with him on Nov 3. Then we can indict him and his wife.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #32)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:00 PM

34. We can move the trials to either Nuremberg or The Hague.

Both seem appropriate given what we learn every day.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:33 PM

24. Well stated.

Progressives need to continue to push their goals.

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Response to Name removed (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:50 PM

36. Precisely

We need the centrism to end

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:40 AM

8. The biggest: Massive media attacks on Democrats.

Various reasons. Most RW-generated of course; RW agents are embedded in most news organizations now, and the agendas they serve will remain, strategy altered a bit maybe. But also will be the venal and just generally despicable interests on both right and left, also of course.

Trump and Repubs have kept the media supplied with very high-octane fuel 24/7/365, and if Repubs lose power to control they'll also lose much of their newsworthiness to the Dems, and much of their rush to cover the news will become rush to create, to sustain.

Outfits that specialize in swiftboating Democrats by filling the media's 24/7/365 news cycle with their poison have mostly been in eclipse, but now they're undoubtedly planning eagerly for a return of their fat days. Judicial Watch's 40 or so partners alone, with their big windows overlooking the Capitol, have had very successful careers focused mainly on persecuting the Clintons and manufacturing fill dirt for other Democrats; at one time their material was "news" almost every day, but they've had to scramble while we've been out. Poor things are exiled to work that doesn't make the viewing screen, mostly lawsuits aimed at vote suppression, causing trouble for Democrats, etc., in many states.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:43 AM

9. Seems to go with the territory doesn't it..

Putins trolls will keep them occupied and going full tilt... probably would be a good idea to have a whole dept to just counter the lies. That is the nonsense that got us this thing squatting in the White House.. We have to get proactive on this

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Response to Peacetrain (Reply #9)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:04 PM

11. :) I like your calm acceptance. As you say.

Don't how well "proactive" will work against dishonorable people whose incomes and ideology are built on attack. We can pass a few laws to correct some harm, very much including restoring restrictions on ownership "empires," which will head straight to court, but for the most part it's up to the consumers to shrink them and their power.

Sanders is a proactive model for a candidacy: Seek out photo ops and coverage of official messages. Otherwise, avoid the news media as much as possible, resist disclosures of any kind, and do an end run around journalists by using voter microtargeting and social media to communicate directly with potential voters.

I can't see it for a major political party that exists to serve the people and must have transparency, however.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:58 AM

10. We do not even know, what we do not know.

This. So very very this.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:06 PM

12. This is one of the main reasons I support Biden right now.

Let Joe get the bus out of the ditch, then someone can navigate us where we want to go in 4 years. Biden has the most knowledge abou what the government is supposed to look like and everything that needs to be addressed.

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 03:52 PM

37. Biden doesn't have any special knowledge there

What the government is supposed to look like? Not like anything in the past 40 years!

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Response to ArcticFox (Reply #37)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:41 PM

38. Actually, it functioned quite well under Obama/Biden

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #38)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 10:27 PM

41. Right

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:15 PM

14. The courts

That damage is going to hurt for a long time.

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 01:55 PM

20. Hopefully

some of the worst ones will show their asses and we can impeach them promptly. So much work to be done cleaning up Chump's mess that it will be very hard to take care of our current needs.

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Response to shanti (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:46 PM

28. Impeaching Bluto Kavanaugh will be easy. Then we must target the older cons on the bench.

For Clarence, just point out to him that he's black. He'll have to leave for health reasons.

We can deport Alito to 1933 Berlin where he belongs.

It's a start. Those first three make Roberts look like a moderate. He'll be figuratively castrated without them.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 01:02 PM

15. Media- "are Dems just stuck in the past"? As opposed to --

Will they say, “Is anyone going to hold the Trump, McCarthy and McConnell accountable?”
“Do you think letting those crimes go unpunished sends the wrong signal?”
“Can the Democrats EVER hold the GOP accountable?”

Or will they say,
“Instead of focusing on the future, Dems are once again stuck in the past.”
“Just getting elected isn’t enough for them, they are trying to put their opponents on trial all over again”
“More partisan politics in Washington, they have majorities but can’t let go of the witch hunt.”

My bets are on the latter.

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Response to lostnfound (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:53 PM

31. How are we in the past? Look at their language.

Teabillies want their country BACK.

Trump wants to make America great AGAIN.

Progressives are always looking FORWARD.

I understand why the media gets things screwed up. In college, teaching and other majors needed a B average to stay in the program. Communications majors only needed a C average.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:31 PM

23. The last thing we need is merely a return to "normalcy" - we need justice! Nt

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:38 PM

26. I look forward to us being able to have those opportunities.

And to make sure we roll back all attacks on the common good that we've endured for 40 years.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:40 PM

27. I really wonder IF this country will EVER be back.......

I didn’t realize how much so many people hated Barack Obama. Watching that Frontline part 1 episode last night, 2nd episode is tonight was just so disheartening. I really don’t think this country will recover for a long long time. Who really could be the first to attempt at healing this country??? I just don’t know.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:47 PM

29. We have more work than anyone could even imagine.

Think about all the Federal agencies, departments, etc that have been torn apart, mismanaged, moved or just plain mangled.

Before we can even begin to progress, we have to rebuild our country. From National Security to our National Parks to any and all we hold sacred.

It's not just Trump I want investigated and jailed, it's each one of his enablers that have profiteered off our beautiful nation.

I would love to see the entire Republican Congress investigated. Not because I am partisan, but because they added to our destruction by betraying their Oath.

They are betraying each and every one of us.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:50 PM

39. We also need to re-examine all of the Judges that he appointed as well

and the Republicans confirmed. I know that it wouldn't be easy to get rid of them, but there are lots whom are unqualified whom should be gotten rid of if possible.

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Response to Peacetrain (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 05:50 PM

40. it'll need to include one helluva 'apology tour'

with that term in quotes.

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