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Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:31 AM

That Evangelical rally tRump had in Miami was stranger than I thought.

There was an opinion piece in USA Today yesterday written by an attendee of this rally:

'Evangelicals for Trump' was an awful display by supposed citizens of the Kingdom of God

...Before Trumpís speech Friday night, several evangelical leaders laid their hands on the president and prayed for him. ďApostleĒ Guillermo Maldonado, the pastor of El Rey Jesus, prayed that Trump would fulfill his role as a new King Cyrus, the Old Testament Persian ruler who released the Jews from captivity and allowed them to rebuild Jerusalem.

Paula White, a preacher of the Prosperity Gospel (God blesses the faithful with financial and physical health), prayed against the demonic forces, presumably Democrats, trying to undermine Trumpís presidency.


He's what now? A new King Cyrus? I'm a little taken back but not really surprised. I remember when the Orange Messiah had declared himself to be a King and The Second Coming. Okay, so now he's King Cyrus.
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-news-latest-jewish-antisemitism-king-of-israel-twitter-democrats-a9072951.html

...This rhetorical flourish was all very appropriate on such an occasion because Fox News, more than anything else, including the Bible and the spiritual disciplines, has formed and shaped the values of so many people in the sanctuary. Trumpís staff knows this. Why else would they put such a roll call in the speech?

At times, it seemed like Trump was putting a new spin on the heroes of the faith described in the New Testament book of Hebrews. Instead of Abel, Enoch, Noah, Abraham, Isaac, Jacob, Sarah, Joseph, Moses, David, and Samuel, we got Sean (Hannity), Laura (Ingraham), Tucker (Carlson), and the hosts of Fox and Friends.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/11/donald-trump-evangelicals-rally-stunning-sad-unprecedented-column/4421150002/?fbclid=IwAR3viNdPKocvDl3RWPmwcNCSiAWze56UdPDqmaz1pmhkvUhY_rNzdYtgg_4

So now these prosperity nut-jobs are declaring the talking head asshats of Faux Noise to be on an equal footing of Moses, David, and even Enoch?! Oh dear!

Below is a link to an Evangelical's blog that describes Marmalade Mouselinni in an eerily accurate description of him and his followers as the True Antichrist! The author does have some conservative views so read this for the entertainment value it presents:
https://www.benjaminlcorey.com/could-american-evangelicals-spot-the-antichrist-heres-the-biblical-predictions/?fbclid=IwAR2lHfoU8GPb7H7Z1LdePDf3RolumW1plxOfVt-vXcmzc_EhoIcujDCNWN8

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Reply That Evangelical rally tRump had in Miami was stranger than I thought. (Original post)
icymist Jan 12 OP
gab13by13 Jan 12 #1
dalton99a Jan 12 #8
burrowowl Jan 13 #24
keithbvadu2 Jan 12 #14
mercuryblues Jan 12 #16
Hortensis Jan 12 #2
MyOwnPeace Jan 12 #5
unc70 Jan 12 #6
Hortensis Jan 12 #7
Mariana Jan 12 #17
samnsara Jan 12 #3
MagickMuffin Jan 12 #4
Pepsidog Jan 12 #9
JHB Jan 12 #10
B Stieg Jan 12 #11
scarletwoman Jan 12 #13
B Stieg Jan 12 #21
scarletwoman Jan 12 #23
Duppers Jan 12 #20
B Stieg Jan 12 #22
Texin Jan 12 #12
milestogo Jan 12 #15
Archae Jan 12 #18
colsohlibgal Jan 12 #19

Response to icymist (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:37 AM

1. The Evangelicals who preach the prosperity gospel,

believe that people who are rich are God's chosen and poor people have sinned against God.

I thought it was bad in the 60's with all of the cults.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:39 AM

8. +1

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Response to dalton99a (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 02:00 AM

24. Good one

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:16 PM

14. Prosperity Gospel seems to work much better for those preaching it and collecting than those donatin

Prosperity Gospel seems to work much better for those preaching it and collecting than those donating to get there.

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Response to gab13by13 (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 02:30 PM

16. It goes even deeper than that.

Because you are God's chosen ones, you can do anything you want. Raping, killing babies and then eating them on live TV - all good. But if you are poor and want an abortion because you are raped, you need to be punished.

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Response to icymist (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:47 AM

2. From something I read, Cyrus was not exactly an exemplar of

Christian, or at least Jesus's, values, so that's why the comparison of how God has chosen depraved Trump to do His good works through. He's done it before.

In any case, Trump was dependent on their support from the beginning, and and now he is desperately so. So this has been going on all along.

Trump supposedly was never without some degree of belief in a god, even if mostly areligious, and he's given to delusions. So I wouldn't be surprised if this whackjob, under constant influence of religious extremists since he first needed them for his run, hasn't convinced himself into becoming a True Believer, at least to the extent of believing God's chosen HIM in HIS Greatness.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:29 AM

5. I'm guessing that

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Response to MyOwnPeace (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:35 AM

6. Both of them

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Response to unc70 (Reply #6)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:38 AM

7. For sure, or they're FIRED!

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 02:53 PM

17. The Bible is full of stories about really awful men

who did much worse things than Trump has ever done. Sometimes, they did these terrible things on God's direct orders. In the stories, God blessed and favored those men, and put them into positions of power over others. It's not the least bit inconsistent for the Evangelicals to suppose that God made Trump president in order to achieve his ends.

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Response to icymist (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:53 AM

3. wow!

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Response to icymist (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:18 AM

4. BEWARE OF FALSE PROPHETS


BEWARE OF FALSE PROFITS as well, mr.pResident.

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Response to icymist (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:13 PM

9. The only things these vultures pray for is the almighty dollar. Jesus is ashamed.

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Response to icymist (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:15 PM

10. As God as my witness, I'll never pass up a chance to repost this







From http://www.dumbingofage.com/2016/blog/antichrist/

A little context: the cartoonist, Dave Willis, grew up in a strict conservative evangelical household, and Joyce, the little kid/older kid/young woman in this progression is something of an alter-ego of his about how that bubble bursts for some people, and of some of the hypocrisies that manifest in the people for whom it doesn't burst.

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Response to icymist (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:24 PM

11. For the love of money is the root of all evil (DU post 2,000!)

1 Timothy 6:10 King James Version (KJV)

(which while some coveted after, they have erred from the faith, and pierced themselves through with many sorrows)

I'm an atheist, but this one surely rings true.

I don't think I have much to contribute, so I'm surprised that I just hit 2,000 DU posts!

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Response to B Stieg (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:42 PM

13. Congrats on your now 2001 posts!

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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:14 PM

21. Thx!

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Response to B Stieg (Reply #21)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:25 PM

23. You're most welcome! 2003 now!

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Response to B Stieg (Reply #11)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 05:49 PM

20. Congrats!

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Response to Duppers (Reply #20)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:15 PM

22. Thx!

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Response to icymist (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:40 PM

12. Corey's essay eerily reminded me of what I had studied extensively in college.

Back in the '70s when I was enrolled in elected courses, I was following along on the Evangelical movement that was just beginning to take hold in America. I became very interested in eschatological studies, and really got immersed in them. Despite that many years later after becoming increasingly jaded by the commercialism pervading the modern evangelical movement, and disillusioned by the horrors I kept seeing around me, I became so estranged from *religion* that I gave it up. Frankly, I really stopped believing. I don't know if I really - if I were to be brutally honest - actually became an atheist, but I'd say it's a pretty close self-characterization. That said, I've not forgotten anything I studied about the End Times.

Looking around me now, watching the planet burn up, along with people and animals, watching floods, tornadic winds, earthquakes, and the skies growing sootier and more noxious by the hour, and watching in horror as no one in control of the levers of governments or agencies here and even abroad, seemed to be alarmed about it. It's almost as if they believe they alone somehow - those in control of everything - think they'll be somehow exempt from the results of their rape and ruination of the planet.

tRump may not be the Antichrist, but I can't say I haven't been recognizing the signs and trying (in vain) to damp them down in my mind and poo-poo them. I simply can't any longer. The thing that really caps it off to me is the fact that, the very people who should be warning the world of this menace, are the very so-called *religious leaders* of the Christian churches. They, and their *worshipers* are defined as the apostate church at End Times. That, to me, is the most significant thing about tRump and every word he lies and every evil deed he does, he is fulfilling the biblical prophecies found within the pages of the Old and New Testament books of the Bible. I don't know for a fact that he is, but I don't know that he isn't either.

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Response to icymist (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:21 PM

15. If I believed in a True AntiChrist it would be Trump himself.

He is obviously pure evil.

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Response to icymist (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 03:46 PM

18. There isn't going to be an "antichrist," or "beast" or "endtimes," period.

In the book of Mark, Jesus HIMSELF says flat out he'll return within the lifetimes of a few men who are at a gathering.

It's been 2000 years since they died, and guess what! No Jesus returning.

This entire "endtimes" fairy tale was concocted by doom and gloom preachers more than 150 years ago, and every year some preacher says "This is the date of the rapture!" and it never happens.

Our planet will continue to stay as it is, and so will we, with crime, philanthropy, war, peace, terrorism, good national initiatives, disasters natural and un-unnatural, births, deaths, etc, etc. until the Sun goes Red Giant phase, and if it doesn't swallow the Earth completely will cook it to a cinder.

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Response to icymist (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 05:45 PM

19. Hypocrisy Beyond Belief

Trump is a tax cheat, a marriage cheat, immensely greedy, you name it. Religious people who support him are phonies and they disgust me.

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