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Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:05 AM

You know what I just love about MEGXIT...🙄😖

The subconscious (and conscious) bias we have in the UK to other is still strong. Empire and the notion that we are somehow superior goes deep with a certain type of chap. You know the sort - they all voted for Bexit for a start.

I have done my very best to try and ignore ALL of this. If they want to bugger off and make their own way in the world then good luck to them. I don't blame them one bit. BUT every frigging time you turn on the radio we are confronted with yet another programme dedicated to what they are now calling a constitutional crisis - way to over egg the biscuit . Good grief. The vitriol and nasty that is all over the airwaves and in the papers fully and utterly reinforces that the media coverage they have to endure is not just tinged (and sometimes explicit) in racism, but fundamentally steeped in othering. A black woman at the heart of the establishment has been a challenge to the status quo that many have utterly failed to adapt to. And shame on them.

So this sums up the situation we are currently living in. A bunch of white middle aged privileged talking heads are talking to each about how their coverage of the Duchess of Sussex has not been racist while calling her ungrateful and uppity for not willing to put up with being called ungrateful and uppity, reassuring themselves all the while that there is no way they or their coverage has been racist. But the Sussex's are the ones with problem?

*Deep fucking sigh*

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Reply You know what I just love about MEGXIT...🙄😖 (Original post)
Soph0571 Jan 2020 OP
samnsara Jan 2020 #1
area51 Jan 2020 #7
TexasBushwhacker Jan 2020 #9
paleotn Jan 2020 #10
whathehell Jan 2020 #30
Solomon Jan 2020 #31
whathehell Jan 2020 #32
Solomon Jan 2020 #39
paleotn Jan 2020 #45
whathehell Jan 2020 #47
paleotn Jan 2020 #44
whathehell Jan 2020 #48
HipChick Jan 2020 #2
malaise Jan 2020 #4
Codeine Jan 2020 #11
grantcart Jan 2020 #13
FakeNoose Jan 2020 #17
ChiTownDenny Jan 2020 #18
questionseverything Jan 2020 #28
muriel_volestrangler Jan 2020 #25
malaise Jan 2020 #27
ananda Jan 2020 #24
malaise Jan 2020 #41
Journeyman Jan 2020 #36
malaise Jan 2020 #40
dhol82 Jan 2020 #19
Sanity Claws Jan 2020 #37
dhol82 Jan 2020 #46
coeur_de_lion Jan 2020 #3
HipChick Jan 2020 #5
coeur_de_lion Jan 2020 #20
Tink41 Jan 2020 #6
bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #8
TNNurse Jan 2020 #12
PatrickforO Jan 2020 #14
jmbar2 Jan 2020 #15
KY_EnviroGuy Jan 2020 #16
HipChick Jan 2020 #22
StarfishSaver Jan 2020 #21
mitch96 Jan 2020 #23
RobinA Jan 2020 #42
muriel_volestrangler Jan 2020 #26
MiniMe Jan 2020 #29
Hortensis Jan 2020 #33
DeminPennswoods Jan 2020 #34
RobinA Jan 2020 #43
yortsed snacilbuper Jan 2020 #35
wnylib Jan 2020 #38
NCLefty Jan 2020 #49

Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:16 AM

1. i love their decision.. i always assumed it would be LA they would settle in...

...and I thought Harry would become a US citizen. However I dont think that will happen with Trump in office. Canada's a good match for them..

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Response to samnsara (Reply #1)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:18 AM

7. I would rather see them in Canada,

since they're a civilized country where healthcare is a human right.

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Response to area51 (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:25 AM

9. "Suits" was shot in Toronto, so Meghan has friends there n/t

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Response to area51 (Reply #7)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:27 AM

10. Seriously, stay the hell out of the US

That would be like going form the proverbial frying pan to an even bigger frying pan. ....and you thought the Brits were nuts.

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Response to paleotn (Reply #10)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 06:48 AM

30. Seriously --Did you even read the post?

As the OP, who is British, explained, Britain has it's own brand of nuttiness that has nothing to with America. I imagine Meagan Markle, an American married into royalty who's lived in both countries, is in better position than you to make the comparison.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #30)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 07:09 AM

31. Actually it's the same fucking nuttiness. The fact that Obama was in the white

house gave us Trump, the ultimate "whi-exit".

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Response to Solomon (Reply #31)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 07:16 AM

32. Actually, it's not..

It's a different culture - Please read the post.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #32)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:09 AM

39. White people being upset about brown people.

Same shit.

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Response to Solomon (Reply #39)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 05:46 PM

45. Bingo.

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Response to Solomon (Reply #39)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:48 AM

47. Lol..Simplistic in the extreme

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but you have yourself a nice day.

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Response to whathehell (Reply #30)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 05:46 PM

44. Seriously? And your point is exactly?

One frying pan of nuttiness to another frying pan of nuttiness is what I meant. Not sure how clearer I can make that. Or do you consider today's America NOT nutty, racist and petty?

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Response to paleotn (Reply #44)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 12:50 AM

48. Seriously

Goodbye.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:19 AM

2. Great distraction from Prince Pedo Andy and Prince Wilie wandering penis..

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Response to HipChick (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:47 AM

4. You know my position

Fuck all royals everywhere they exist - you cannot have democracy and perpetuate monarchies - either we're all equal or we aren't.
I welcome anything that destroys this BS.

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:27 AM

11. "Fuck all royals everywhere they exist. . ."

 

Exactly!!

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:35 AM

13. Absolutely, Americans should lecture other cultures how they

Should structure their symbolic Head of State (which has absolutely nothing to do with democratic head of government) because our system of linking head of state with the head of government has worked out so well here in the US.

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Response to grantcart (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:18 AM

17. Since the Chump family want to be the new "American Royals"

... I guess that would invalidate your statement. We have to vote Chump out of office and ban his family from ever running for anything including the county dogcatcher.

Rick Wilson writes about this hilariously in his blog in today's RawStory:
https://www.rawstory.com/2020/01/rick-wilson-drops-the-hammer-on-the-trump-kids-in-a-brutal-column-warning-of-a-trumpian-political-dynasty/

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Response to grantcart (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:27 AM

18. I think you forgot your snark tag.

 

It's all entertainment. We have Hollywood; they have royals. There may be a lot of hot air but neither are making policy. Can't see why anyone would be threatened...unless hot air is threatening.

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Response to ChiTownDenny (Reply #18)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 05:13 PM

28. they receive millions of tax payer dollars a year so while threatening might not be the word,it's bs

plus the costs of their security is tax payer born so it is not harmless at all

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Response to grantcart (Reply #13)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:39 PM

25. malaise is, I believe, Jamaican (she lives there, anyway), so Elizabeth is her Head of State

so this directly affects her too.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #25)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 04:15 PM

27. Thank you

Correct

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:35 PM

24. So true.

The whole idea of monarchy and empire needs to go.

Even MF45 acts like an absolute tyrannous monarch!

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Response to ananda (Reply #24)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 11:10 AM

41. Have you seen his coat of arms?

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 07:40 AM

36. I remember the happy day when we Irish celebrated the Prince of Wales' 1st wedding . . .

We stood on the street corner, watching the procession go by, and shouted:

"Up Chuck and Di! Up Chuck and Di!"


I couldn't agree with you more, malaise. A bloody anachronism to be sure.

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Response to Journeyman (Reply #36)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 09:40 AM

40. I remember watching little children in our Caribbean lining up in the hot sun

to wave at these fucking parasites. I was never one of them.

Up Chuck and Di! Love it.

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Response to HipChick (Reply #2)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:34 AM

19. Willie has a wandering penis?

Who knew?

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Response to dhol82 (Reply #19)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 08:06 AM

37. Will only has oral with other women

He is very serious about his marriage vows. Really. That is the rumor I heard.
His fooling around with other women is supposedly one of the sore points with Harry.

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Response to Sanity Claws (Reply #37)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 07:40 PM

46. Wow, that is surprising. Guess he has his own take on marriage vows.

Not surprising in terms of the British upper class.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 09:40 AM

3. I am happy for them

I read an article that said people who make this kind of radical change in direction in their lives are usually the ones who are content when they reflect back on their lives.

In the long run this will be very good for them and for their son.

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Response to coeur_de_lion (Reply #3)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:00 AM

5. I made a radical decision many years ago


Never looked back and it taught me a lot

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Response to HipChick (Reply #5)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:53 AM

20. I've done the same a couple of times

Whenever I do something radical I end up happier for it.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:03 AM

6. To see the Press reaction


It must be a decision that will benefit the two making it. Time and again I've found the more frantic the protesting, teeth gnashing, gloom and doom coming from the other side the more beneficial to those wanting change. From what I've seen I'd be terrified to stay, it almost seems a cult, Harry and his bride are really taking a beating.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:18 AM

8. I always thought it a match of not very overlapping backgrounds

but I think they are great people and hope it all works out well for them. If anyone can make positive changes in the world, it ought to be them.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:34 AM

12. In addition to the racism that she is enduring,

I heard a British person on NPR say that the other royals have just gotten used to the tabloid press. Harry has made it quite clear that the tabloid press got his mother killed. He is just trying to protect his wife and child.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:41 AM

14. Yes, after reading a bunch of articles about this, I do feel sorry for Meghan Markle.

Racism is ugly no matter where.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 10:57 AM

15. The reaction to their escape reminds me of slaveowners...

..who couldn't understand why their newly emancipated slaves were out of there.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 11:09 AM

16. Murdoch's tabloids are clutching their pearls.

I see the Daily Mail (which makes me ill to look at) is plastered today with lies and innuendo about the Royals, along with their usual plastering of gossip and sexism. They're even pushing rumors of marital problems between Harry and Meghan and bro' problems between Harry and Will, which if there was, they had much to do in causing the problem - just as they did with Harry's mom.

Soph, I've never understood why the British people are so enamored by the tabloids but maybe we're just as bad with our obsessions with talk radio, reality TV shows and sports.....and gossip. This is how people like Murdoch build their empires of destruction.

We wish Harry and Meghan all the best and I hope within the next year or so they finally have some days of peace. This too will pass and the tabloids will move on to other shiny objects.

KY.......

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Response to KY_EnviroGuy (Reply #16)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:05 PM

22. I have always cringed at the number of British people using The Sun or Daily Mirror

as their main news feed...serious dumbed down BS

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 12:01 PM

21. Yes. And this ...




When the black delegation traded Kanye in the racial draft for a pick to be named later, no one thought they’d get a member of the royal family!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:31 PM

23. "We wish Harry and Meghan all the best"

But why did they announce it? Tell the mum and get on with it... They invited all this response.
m

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #23)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:10 PM

42. I'm With You

Probably not handled the best.

I generally think this is a tempest in a teapot fanned by the British press. Harry is not exactly in imminent danger of being crowned the next monarch, let them go live somewhere in peace. I couldn't tell you where Charles' siblings are or what they do. Or frankly, who they are.

And speaking of Charles, whom I have stood up for since Diana appeared on the scene, he needs to zip it when the subject is royal behavior.

And I WILL add, and people are free to do what they think is best for them in these circumstances, that I think a more effective change agent would be to stand firm right there in London.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 01:43 PM

26. "Consitutional crisis" - imagine if 30 years ago, the adult younger brother of the expected heir

had decided to opt out of the royalty business. No Andrew with his dubious support of arms deals, or even more dubious support of a convicted paedophile. What a constitutional crisis that would have been, eh!

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 06:21 PM

29. Redux of Edward and Mrs. Simpson

Bpth are for love, Edward was because Wallace Simpson was divorced, Harry because Meghan is part black

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 07:20 AM

33. "The news" reports problems. People need the real picture,

not the dark, dystopian notions news-only create. That's what other reports are for.

I truly regret Meghan's and Harry's current problems, but they will pass. That she could marry into the royal family is proof that those reactionaries acting out so badly have already lost. Don't forget to look for Russia's hand, either, in amplifying their helpless fears and angers. The noise hides but can't eliminate the reality that a large majority celebrated this marriage and all it means, just as a large majority here and people around the planet did Obama's election and reelection, and all they mean.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 07:25 AM

34. Who cares? It's not like Harry's destined to be King of England

Reportedly, Meghan just signed a deal with Disney. They can split their time between Orlando and Anaheim and greet visitors to the Disney parks. Maybe they can spend some time at Euro Disney, too. I don't know what actual skills Harry has, but I'm sure someone will hire him for publicity work. Once two are making their own money, they can seperate from their royal family/royal stipend and do their own thing.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #34)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 12:19 PM

43. And There You Have It

America's total and final defeat of Britain - the monarchy has been Americanized. Just when many Americans wish they weren't Americanized.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 07:36 AM

35. Britain is lucky they don't have princess ivanky.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Jan 13, 2020, 08:53 AM

38. I am very happy for them for their decision

and very sad for them that it seems necessary for their own personal happiness.

Besides tbe cruelty of racism for Meghan, there is the painful memory for Harry of what the press did to his mother. Must feel like a deja vu nightmare to him to see them do this again with his wife and children.

May they prosper in peace, happiness, and independence wherever they choose to go.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Tue Jan 14, 2020, 02:33 AM

49. I can only think that SO MANY PEOPLE really care about the "royals" for some reason.

There is no other explanation for the madness of media coverage that follows them.

This obsession killed Diana. But they're not special enough to harass unless we say they are. What are we doing?

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