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Sat Jan 11, 2020, 07:42 PM

Michael Bloomberg Is Open to Spending $1 Billion to Defeat Trump

Michael Bloomberg Is Open to Spending $1 Billion to Defeat Trump

The Democratic presidential candidate said he would spend big even if the nominee was someone he had sharp differences with, like Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren.

Jan. 11, 2020Updated 4:59 p.m. ET

By Lisa Lerer at NY Times

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/11/us/politics/michael-bloomberg-spending.html

"SNIP.....

SAN MARCOS, Texas — Michael R. Bloomberg on Saturday did not rule out spending a billion dollars of his own money on the 2020 presidential race, even if he does not win the Democratic nomination, and said he would mobilize his well-financed political operation to help Bernie Sanders or Elizabeth Warren win in November if either is the party nominee, despite their sharp policy differences.

Mr. Bloomberg’s plans would effectively create a shadow campaign operation for the general election, complete with hundreds of organizers in key battleground states and a robust digital operation, ready to be inherited by the party nominee — regardless of who that nominee may be.

Already, Mr. Bloomberg has spent more than $200 million on advertising, putting him on pace to spend by early March about the same as what President Barack Obama’s campaign spent on advertising over the course of the entire 2012 general election. If Mr. Bloomberg fails to win the nomination, future spending would be redirected toward attacking Mr. Trump.

“It depends whether the candidate needs help; if they’re doing very well, they need less. If they’re not, they’ll need more,” he said in an interview after a lunch stop at a barbecue restaurant during a campaign swing through Texas.

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Reply Michael Bloomberg Is Open to Spending $1 Billion to Defeat Trump (Original post)
applegrove Jan 11 OP
at140 Jan 11 #1
dewsgirl Jan 11 #3
samnsara Jan 11 #7
dewsgirl Jan 11 #9
applegrove Jan 11 #5
yardwork Jan 11 #30
spanone Jan 11 #2
stopbush Jan 11 #4
onetexan Jan 11 #12
BigmanPigman Jan 11 #23
samnsara Jan 11 #6
abqtommy Jan 11 #8
not_the_one Jan 11 #34
Johnny2X2X Jan 11 #10
applegrove Jan 11 #11
Johnny2X2X Jan 11 #19
applegrove Jan 11 #20
Johnny2X2X Jan 11 #24
Laffy Kat Jan 11 #13
Blue_true Jan 11 #15
Laffy Kat Jan 11 #17
Blue_true Jan 11 #18
Name removed Jan 11 #14
Blue_true Jan 11 #16
JoeOtterbein Jan 11 #21
Poiuyt Jan 11 #22
Stuart G Jan 11 #31
not_the_one Jan 11 #37
Recursion Jan 11 #25
Thekaspervote Jan 11 #26
Historic NY Jan 11 #27
Stuart G Jan 11 #28
applegrove Jan 11 #29
TrollBuster9090 Jan 11 #32
Stuart G Jan 11 #35
brooklynite Jan 11 #33
TrollBuster9090 Jan 11 #36
RandiFan1290 Jan 12 #42
Captain Zero Jan 11 #38
jg10003 Jan 12 #39
duforsure Jan 12 #40
texasfiddler Jan 12 #41
NewJeffCT Jan 20 #45
Buckeyeblue Jan 12 #43
onetexan Jan 20 #44

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 07:43 PM

1. That is more money than all candidates combined!

But can Bloomberg excite the voters?

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Response to at140 (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 07:55 PM

3. Unless he changes his marijuana policy, he won't do a thing for me.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #3)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:07 PM

7. just move here to wash state...or any of the other states where its legal..

..if trump wins its a moot point anyway!

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Response to samnsara (Reply #7)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:19 PM

9. I wish.😞 Of course I will vote blue, no matter who.

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Response to at140 (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:00 PM

5. He will spend regardless of which Democrat wins the nomination.

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Response to at140 (Reply #1)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:51 PM

30. I don't think Bloomberg is running to win for himself.

He's running to defeat Trump. His ads are pretty good. They're anti-Trump, about issues that people care about.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 07:43 PM

2. K&R...

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 07:59 PM

4. Bloomberg has been putting real money in to see Ds elected.

He did it in 2018, and he’ll do it this year.

A billion dollars. To defeat tRump. That’s the kind of D we probably need this time around.

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Response to stopbush (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:43 PM

12. We're darn lucky Bloomburg is on our side

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Response to stopbush (Reply #4)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:00 PM

23. Meanwhile, Steyer was somewhat vague about

contributing to the Dems in general if he loses the primaries. I know he backs Dems but Bloomberg is putting this out there now, maybe to get the same commitment from Steyer.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:06 PM

6. at this point i say go for it!

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:09 PM

8. I wonder what tRUMP would do if someone offered to pay him a billion to resign?

asking for a friend...

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Response to abqtommy (Reply #8)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:22 PM

34. Bill Maher did just that. On live HBO teevee.

He said he would donate a million, and would get enough other Hollywood rich celebrity types to finish out the 1 billion.

And he CAN do it.

Personally, I want him to die in jail. (preferably along with his spawn) But that is just me.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:27 PM

10. I hope he does

A $Billion Super PAC that bombards swing states with negative ads about Trump would be a game changer.

But above all, Dems need a well funded social media campaign that uses the same types of micro targeted ads they got Trump elected.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #10)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:34 PM

11. The democrats need to use new social media tactics not yet thought of

in the 2016 election.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #11)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:06 PM

19. Agree

Say what you want, it might not have even been legal, but Trump’s social media campaign completely blind sided Democrats. We had no idea what was happening.

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Response to Johnny2X2X (Reply #19)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:15 PM

20. Well some did. I complained of russians on the Discussionist and was

laughed at there. It was pretty openly done. So we knew. There was also a social network campaign to not like Nancy Pelosi just before the 2018 elections. Again it was obvious she was being targeted and some of us pointed out what a star she was as politicians go. Many people on the DU thought she should not be Speaker. Then Dems won. She became Speaker again. And she is amazing. It will happen again that people on the DU get fooled. And me. And it will happen all over. So we have to be ninja's and be prepared to duck and jump and spin and fight all these bullshit narratives. But i have to believe Democrats have a plan for that.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #20)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:07 PM

24. The micro ads are so sophisticated.

They targeted swing voters in swing states and they made ads specific to each voter, they made millions of different ads. It was highly effective and when Comey announced what he did a week before the election it drove it all home.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:46 PM

13. Why doesn't he give the money to the Demo. Party PAC? nt

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #13)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:52 PM

15. Because legally, he can't.

If he gave the max to every democrat running in the House and Senate, that would not come close to a billion. If can give only $2800 to the Democratic Party presidential nominee.
Looks like he will humiliate Trump by spending money that Trump doesn't have on ads against Trump. The worst thing that he can do to Trump is flatout say that Trump is not a billionaire like him, that would likely give the orange asshole a deadly coronary.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #15)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:56 PM

17. Oh, I guess that's true. nt

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Response to Laffy Kat (Reply #17)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:02 PM

18. He could give the max to every democrat and the max to every

state Democratic Party and still fall way, way short of a billion. He seems to have a plan, glad that his billion is for us instead of against us.

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Sat Jan 11, 2020, 08:53 PM

16. Notice that he is not bad mouthing the party either. nt

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:38 PM

21. He is not the only one ready to back Bernie or Liz. And/or...

...Bernie and Liz in my case!!!

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 09:43 PM

22. My guess is that it's going to take every penny

I think the race is going to very close and very dirty. Remember, trump is the dirtiest of dirty politicians, and he's not above doing anything to win, including cheating and colluding with our enemies.

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Response to Poiuyt (Reply #22)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:12 PM

31. It is not going to be close..although very dirty...even though Trump is the dirtiest of all people.

.....Trump has had more than three years to show himself..He is to most of us, an ugly, dirty, awful person..Far dirtier and uglier than anyone imagined. Many were willing to give him a chance and voted for him on that chance that Trump would become a better person when he won...
..... He has had his chance,& he lost it. It is over and he will lose in my opinion. You may not know it, but most of the people in the U.S.A. are embarrassed by Trump. We know it. Most of the world knows it, but Trump does not know it. Here is a person, Bloomberg, who is going to spend this money to defeat Trump. Why?
.... Bloomberg knows Trump and what he really is. Bloomberg wants him gone, as we do. Our country's future needs Trump gone to survive.
......No it will not be close, because Trump has shown himself to be what he always has been+++++ an awful, dirty, ugly, rotten, vicious, stupid, and absurd crook. Trump will lose as bad as McGovern lost in 72. We will all see what happens.
........ Who knows what evil lurks within the hearts of men?.... We all know. Don't we?

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #31)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:36 PM

37. On my optimistic days I am 100% with you.

But the media keeps trying their damndest to convince us it is a neck and neck horse race, that half the country is ready to race to the polls and re-elect him. And the public doesn't seem to recognize that they are making money off the horse race.

If as many sit on their ass at home this time as in 2016, then add the voter purges, the voter repression, the gerrymandered districts and the stupidity of the voting public, it may be difficult to get the huge win needed to make it an unquestionable victory. And it needs to be such an unquestionable victory that he can't even begin to call it "rigged".

I have lost my faith in the American public. I'm afraid more people care about the super bowl than the election.

Then I read a hopeful outlook like yours, and I get hopeful again.

I am suffering from major whiplash...

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:14 PM

25. Bloomberg *really* hates Trump

Good. Keep him angry, and keep him pointed in the right direction.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:23 PM

26. Gotta hand it to him. A patriot willing to fight for his country

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:24 PM

27. We need to taken out some of those Boot licking Republican Senators too.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:45 PM

28. In terms of next November's election,this could be the most important move that anyone makes.

What that really means is there will be .....unlimited money for the Democratic candidate

UNLIMITED,
UNLIMITED,
UNLIMITED,
UNLIMITED,
UNLIMITED.........enough for whatever happens...whenever it happens, however it happens......

As anyone knows, money is what makes politics work or not work. This means, we will have a great deal more than we ever imagined. And, that money will not be a problem for us. You see, here is the truth.............and it is the total truth as to why this is happening.................

Blumberg hates Trump as much as we do.

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Response to Stuart G (Reply #28)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 10:46 PM

29. I agree it is big news.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:15 PM

32. I'm glad, but that would only equal the contributions of ONE Koch brother.

Nevermind Adleson, Pickens, Solenberg, and a dozen other reactionary plutocrats.

I'm just hoping Jeff 'Bozo' Bazos (as Trump dubbed him) will start a grudge match, and donate a piffling TEN billion.

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Response to TrollBuster9090 (Reply #32)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:23 PM

35. It won't matter..Trump has shown us that he has no clothes...

...It won't matter how much money is spent because Trump has shown all of us his true self. Trump's true self is ugly. Whatever that means for you is what Trump is and will always be.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:18 PM

33. WE HATE BILLIONAIRES!!!

Don’t we?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #33)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:28 PM

36. Nope. We just want them to pay the same proportion of their income in taxes as the rest of us.

The only reason we need 'our own' set of billionaires is to fight THEIR set of billionaires. But if somebody passed a law making them pay the same taxes as the rest of us; and were limited to $2000 political donations like the rest of us, I'd like them just fine.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #33)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:35 AM

42. lol

Getting worried?

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sat Jan 11, 2020, 11:37 PM

38. He could buy up ALL the ad time now.

Couldn't he? Use some vanilla named Pacs. Have it all purchased on all channels from the conventions until election day. Run ads for the Democrat and videos of kittens. BwAHAHAha !

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 02:45 AM

39. Bloomberg is the person trump imagines himself to be.

Smart, self made, one of the ten richest men in the world, and a creator of a successful and useful business. I don't agree with Bloomberg's policies but I have always respected him as a businessman.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 05:40 AM

40. I suspect putin and the prince

Are already giving trump and republicans that amount to bribe them and funneled to them to use for their campaigns. Especially from putin to insure they'll lift sanctions for getting them re-elected. The prince for protection and selling them more weapons.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:33 AM

41. Both Bloomberg and Steyer are driven to have action on Climate Change

I applaud them both.

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Response to texasfiddler (Reply #41)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 09:15 AM

45. Bloomberg has spent a lot of money on gun control issues as well

and, supposedly had been working with some Silcon Valley types to counteract the influence of Cambridge Analytica to help microtargeting GOTV operations.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Sun Jan 12, 2020, 08:43 AM

43. I would like to see some of the $1 billion going to win back the senate

To effectively undo the damage of the last 4 years we need control of the Senate.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 20, 2020, 09:08 AM

44. He was just on NBC Today show and denied the report that he's willing to spend up to $1B for

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