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Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:18 PM

Iranian Air Force Jets Enter Iraqi Airspace


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Reply Iranian Air Force Jets Enter Iraqi Airspace (Original post)
EarthFirst Jan 2020 OP
RandySF Jan 2020 #1
C_U_L8R Jan 2020 #2
triron Jan 2020 #3
onenote Jan 2020 #9
highplainsdem Jan 2020 #4
Newest Reality Jan 2020 #32
Liberalhammer Jan 2020 #5
braddy Jan 2020 #6
Liberalhammer Jan 2020 #8
braddy Jan 2020 #10
Liberalhammer Jan 2020 #12
braddy Jan 2020 #13
rufus dog Jan 2020 #14
braddy Jan 2020 #18
rufus dog Jan 2020 #19
Liberalhammer Jan 2020 #16
rufus dog Jan 2020 #20
Liberalhammer Jan 2020 #22
rufus dog Jan 2020 #25
Liberalhammer Jan 2020 #29
boomer_wv Jan 2020 #17
rufus dog Jan 2020 #21
Liberalhammer Jan 2020 #23
Post removed Jan 2020 #24
Liberalhammer Jan 2020 #26
rufus dog Jan 2020 #33
cwydro Jan 2020 #43
Post removed Jan 2020 #27
Liberalhammer Jan 2020 #30
rufus dog Jan 2020 #35
DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2020 #37
cwydro Jan 2020 #31
rufus dog Jan 2020 #34
cwydro Jan 2020 #36
rufus dog Jan 2020 #39
Liberalhammer Jan 2020 #38
cwydro Jan 2020 #42
herding cats Jan 2020 #50
Blue_true Jan 2020 #40
braddy Jan 2020 #41
Blue_true Jan 2020 #45
braddy Jan 2020 #46
Blue_true Jan 2020 #47
braddy Jan 2020 #48
Blue_true Jan 2020 #49
braddy Jan 2020 #51
Blue_true Jan 2020 #52
onenote Jan 2020 #7
Tipperary Jan 2020 #15
still_one Jan 2020 #28
ck4829 Jan 2020 #11
sarisataka Jan 2020 #44
onenote Jan 2020 #53
hardluck Jan 2020 #54
onenote Jan 2020 #55
sarisataka Jan 2020 #56

Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:19 PM

1. Lord please send a lighting bolt into the Oval Office

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:22 PM

2. Iran is shoving shock and awe down Trump's gullet.

Where are the smart adults who can create peace out of this clusterfuck? Certain nowhere in the White House.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:23 PM

3. Looks like this is a full blown all out attack.

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Response to triron (Reply #3)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:33 PM

9. Ari Arouzi was cited as saying 13 US troops died -- and that hasn't been established

So I'll take this report with a grain of salt.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:25 PM

4. Look at all the replies to that tweet from idiot Trump supporters mocking the Iranian military, like

the nitwits I posted about here:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212850174

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Response to highplainsdem (Reply #4)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:15 PM

32. Too bad...

They are Dunning-Kruger poster children. If they only knew how stupid their stupidity looks to anyone who knows anything about this, they might not believe it.

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:27 PM

5. Our Troops are sitting ducks.

 

Trump is responsible for all the deaths that are happening.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:29 PM

6. How are our troops sitting ducks?

 

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Response to braddy (Reply #6)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:33 PM

8. 5,000 Troops

 

In our bases in Iraq. Surrounded by shia militants with the only way to get out is via the air. Oh, and Iran launching ballistic missiles.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #8)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:39 PM

10. We are well prepared and not vulnerable, it is Iran that should be afraid of having their military

 

defanged of it's air force, missiles, navy, and income producing oil production, if they do us any real harm.

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Response to braddy (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:47 PM

12. Yes, but in a battle of attrition

 

With long supply lines and an Iraqi population and government against us with shia militias, those troops don't stand a chance. They'll be swallowed up.

Iran has the 8th largest army in the world, with over a million people in its military.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:50 PM

13. The attrition would be the destruction of the Iranian military and their economy if they invaded

 

Iraq.
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Response to braddy (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:55 PM

14. When was the last time Iran attacked outside of their borders?

 

Also, what in the long term history of Iran leads you to believe that they think in short term economic gains/losses?

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #14)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:01 PM

18. The oppressive regime will not survive economic destruction, they just killed 1500 of their people

 

a couple of weeks ago because of unrest.

Iran is in a delicate and vulnerable position and the loss of Soleimani really puts a crimp in their terrorist operations as he had talent difficult to repeat.

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Response to braddy (Reply #18)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:03 PM

19. And you answered neither question

 

I see you are quite impressed with your opinion.

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Response to braddy (Reply #13)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:57 PM

16. I dont agree

 

Iran is going after our economy. This is their plan.

It's on the brink of going into recession for month's; the raise in oil and gas prices will put a stake in it for a decade.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #16)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:05 PM

20. Look it is a swarm of low post supporters providing absolutely zero to the discussion.

 

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:07 PM

22. What a very snobby response

 

Would you like some cheese with your wine?

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #22)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:10 PM

25. First off it is WHINE

 

and I was going for dickish dismissal, sorry you took it as snobby.

PS, nice job saving a hide down below puppet!

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #20)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:13 PM

29. You telling others

 

To fuck off really helps the discussion as well.

Project much?

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #12)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:00 PM

17. And....

 

that military and those million people would be fodder for the type of destruction the US military can bring to bare. Our navy alone could smash them to bits while sitting well out of range of their missiles. The initial strikes would ground their air force and take out all known missile sites. Their Navy would be an easy target as well.

Our ability to destroy is only limited by our own willingness to do so.

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Response to boomer_wv (Reply #17)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:05 PM

21. see above and don't waste my fucking time.

 

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Response to Post removed (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:12 PM

26. Rufus brought us together

 

What a dick head it is.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #26)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:16 PM

33. LOL

 

The three of you share the same keyboard.

Go back to Discussionist. You are fooling no one.

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #33)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:32 PM

43. This.

Boom.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #27)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:14 PM

30. All you have is insults

 

Very helpful in the discussion.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #30)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:19 PM

35. again, read my original response

 

no attack, a request for factual info.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #27)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:20 PM

37. I kind of agree and disagree with you gentlemen.

I believe we can stop Iran from waging war by destroying their means to do so at very low cost but then what? If Iraq is the template the then what is not at all appealing. It's easy to break things. It's hard to put them back together.

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Response to Post removed (Reply #24)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:15 PM

31. Nice personal attack.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #31)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:17 PM

34. really

 

responding to a post calling me a dick head is a personal attack? Duly noted.

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:19 PM

36. Dude,I was responding to the poster who said " f yourself," not you.

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Response to cwydro (Reply #36)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:20 PM

39. got it, my apologies

 

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Response to rufus dog (Reply #34)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:20 PM

38. Keep going Rufus

 

Well you did insult Boomer WV and attacked me earlier. Complainng about adding nothing to the discussion.

Seems you are not either.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #38)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:31 PM

42. You really should stop.

Seriously.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #38)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 10:00 PM

50. Enough.

Obviously obvious here.

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Response to braddy (Reply #10)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:23 PM

40. You should know by now that they won't array across from us in a

battlefield. Our military took out the Taliban and Saddam militaries in a few days of fighting, calm ensued, then our troops started dying from asymmetric warfare attacks. In a war of attrition, it doesn't matter if we kill 1 million Iranians, what will defeat us is roadside bombs and other warfare that run up our casualty count.

It is hard to fight someone that kills some of our troops then melts into the general population of their country or province, Iraq and Afghanistan should have taught us abundant lessons in that regard.

My impulse would be to just leave the region, but that would be wrong because we have been there, so anything that happens will be blamed on us and all sides will have blood hatred for us. The Middleeast is a pot that is boiling with ancient hatreds, there is no way that an outsider can aggressively insert itself there like we have and not suffer consequences. China seems to be taking a smarter route, using soft diplomacy economic in places that are hotspots for us. China gets control of vast natural resources and we get people swearing on their kids lives to kill us wherever they find us.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #40)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:27 PM

41. If they are going to attack Americans then they have to attack, they are easy to retaliate against

 

without us having to involve ground troops, the rulers of Iran are not in a completely secure position of control over their population.

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Response to braddy (Reply #41)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:35 PM

45. Opponents in Iraq and Afghanistan killed our troop with

the country's rulers on our side.

The problem in regions of the world like the Middleeast is that people aren't going to fight our troops straight up, we have seen enough to know that. They will go after our soft targets in the region, or if we put troops in harm's way, they will use IEDs, which have been and still are highly effective against US troops that don't have loyal local fighters like the Kurds were for us in Syria and northern Iraq.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #45)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:39 PM

46. Which means the same harassment that has been going for years, but now we will make Iran pay

 

for their little terrorist operations and their terror mastermind is already dead.

Iran is extremely vulnerable.

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Response to braddy (Reply #46)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:49 PM

47. A figurehead was killed. They likely have zealots that are five times worse.

How often have the US killed a high level terrorist and things calmed down? The closest was the killing of bin laden, but ISIS took over.

The thing that bothers me is that it seem that Shia jihadists and Sunni jihadists are attacking us, the group in Kenya that killed two Americans after the Iranian was killed are aligned with al quida, not Shia extremists.

I don't have your confidence that our superior military will win in the end, we were stronger by far in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan and either have a stalemate, or exited, or are looking for the exit (Afghanistan).

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #47)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:54 PM

48. Soleimani was not a figurehead, he was considered a unique genius in organizing and leading

 

his international terror and militia operations, losing him was a huge loss to Iran's efforts.

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Response to braddy (Reply #48)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:58 PM

49. We heard that every time one of those people were killed.

Unfortunately, for that mindset, there is always someone worse waiting in the wings.

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Response to Blue_true (Reply #49)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 10:07 PM

51. Do some research on him, his death was a body blow to Iran, not all leaders are easily replaced.

 

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Response to braddy (Reply #51)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 10:23 PM

52. I don't have to do "research". Recent history has provided plenty of

examples to prove the point that I made. We don't agree, there is no reason to keep up this conversation.

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:32 PM

7. Link to reliable report that US troops have died?

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Response to onenote (Reply #7)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:57 PM

15. There is none.

 

Learning a lot about some people tonight.

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Response to Tipperary (Reply #15)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:13 PM

28. +++

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Response to Liberalhammer (Reply #5)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 08:41 PM

11. All true

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Response to EarthFirst (Original post)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 09:34 PM

44. What have these planes done

since entering Iraqi airspace over an hour ago?

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #44)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:28 PM

53. They've done what most figments of someone's imagination do

they've disappeared.

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Response to onenote (Reply #53)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:37 PM

54. Are you saying Iran has stealth aircraft!

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Response to hardluck (Reply #54)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 11:54 PM

55. Nah. Just that the Internet has stealth reporters.

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Response to onenote (Reply #53)

Wed Jan 8, 2020, 12:02 AM

56. Like they turned invisible?

Wow, we are way behind their technology

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