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Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:39 PM

43% Support Trump's Order to Kill Soleimani

43% Support Trumpís Order to Kill Soleimani

January 6, 2020 at 2:54 pm EST†By†Taegan Goddard†197 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2020/01/06/43-support-trumps-order-to-kill-soleimani/

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A new†HuffPost/YouGov survey†found that 43% of voters said they supported President Trumpís order to kill Iranian Gen. Qassem Soleimani. Among that pool, 30% said they strongly approved of the decision.

Thirty-eight percent of voters said they disapproved of the military action.

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Reply 43% Support Trump's Order to Kill Soleimani (Original post)
applegrove Jan 2020 OP
guillaumeb Jan 2020 #1
getagrip_already Jan 2020 #5
Flaleftist Jan 2020 #30
Amishman Jan 2020 #31
regnaD kciN Jan 2020 #44
Thomas Hurt Jan 2020 #2
Paladin Jan 2020 #3
sunonmars Jan 2020 #4
Ferrets are Cool Jan 2020 #21
onethatcares Jan 2020 #6
Hoyt Jan 2020 #7
onecaliberal Jan 2020 #9
Hoyt Jan 2020 #12
onecaliberal Jan 2020 #14
Hoyt Jan 2020 #17
0rganism Jan 2020 #22
Hoyt Jan 2020 #24
0rganism Jan 2020 #25
dlk Jan 2020 #8
applegrove Jan 2020 #11
OliverQ Jan 2020 #13
onecaliberal Jan 2020 #15
applegrove Jan 2020 #18
Downtown Hound Jan 2020 #38
dlk Jan 2020 #58
stopdiggin Jan 2020 #60
lunatica Jan 2020 #10
gratuitous Jan 2020 #16
kwolf68 Jan 2020 #19
smirkymonkey Jan 2020 #37
IcyPeas Jan 2020 #20
dchill Jan 2020 #29
uponit7771 Jan 2020 #33
UniteFightBack Jan 2020 #23
Pachamama Jan 2020 #26
Bettie Jan 2020 #27
applegrove Jan 2020 #32
Downtown Hound Jan 2020 #40
applegrove Jan 2020 #42
Downtown Hound Jan 2020 #43
uponit7771 Jan 2020 #57
uponit7771 Jan 2020 #56
applegrove Jan 2020 #59
Bettie Jan 2020 #47
applegrove Jan 2020 #53
uponit7771 Jan 2020 #55
dchill Jan 2020 #28
tableturner Jan 2020 #34
Downtown Hound Jan 2020 #35
maryellen99 Jan 2020 #36
Downtown Hound Jan 2020 #41
DemocratSinceBirth Jan 2020 #39
Rollerman Jan 2020 #45
Codeine Jan 2020 #52
doc03 Jan 2020 #46
Bettie Jan 2020 #48
doc03 Jan 2020 #50
bdamomma Jan 2020 #49
lame54 Jan 2020 #51
uponit7771 Jan 2020 #54

Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:42 PM

1. I would say this is meaningless,

but it is close to Trump's general approval rating.

What did Lincoln say about fooling some of the people all of the time?

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:49 PM

5. or pt barnum about a sucker being born every minute......

So ~19% didn't have an opinion? That's just weird.

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #5)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:18 PM

30. It just happened and there are a lot of people who pay very little attention

to current events and foreign affairs, people who rarely watch or read the news. I can believe 19% don't know what to think.

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Response to guillaumeb (Reply #1)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:20 PM

31. It's more depressing than his approval rating

At least there a majority disapprove.

This was a plurality in support of his action.

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Response to Amishman (Reply #31)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:50 PM

44. We've been trained to hate Iran since 1979...

Plus, note that this is approval for the assassination in a vacuum. Once further implications for the U.S. become clear, I think the undecided respondents will tip toward disapproving.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:43 PM

2. Magical thinkers who think the real world is like an action movie.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:44 PM

3. trump's base will stick with him, no matter what.

I only wish it was them, their children or their grandchildren who would be exclusively tasked with the upcoming warfare. That's what they deserve.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:45 PM

4. 43% would approve of Trump gunning down children on the streets of DC. THEY DON'T CARE

Seriously, these morons are so far gone, he can do anything and they'd believe it was someone else's fault or was divined by God.

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Response to sunonmars (Reply #4)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:41 PM

21. Expecially if they were Dems nt

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:50 PM

6. they forgot to call me

the numbers against "military action" would have gone up by one.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:52 PM

7. I think this is a loser for us, as it stands right now. 19% are not sure whether they approve

or disapprove. Only 38% disapproved (with 26% strongly disapproving).

Also, 71% think Iran is a serious threat to us (with 11% not sure). That's a lot of folks not trusting Iran.

It is a little early for a poll to reflect much on the airstrike, but I bet this pretty much blows over in a few days. Oil prices are almost back to where they were before airstrike.

I'd like to see us move back to impeachment, the 2020 election, etc. I don't support trump's action, but the vast majority of people don't seem upset by the airstrike.

I also hope this is a good reason to leave Iraq. As long as we have troops in the Middle East -- especially Iraq -- this junk is going to happen no matter who is Prez.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:56 PM

9. Just wait until shit starts blowing up here...

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #9)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:00 PM

12. If that happens, trump will just blast away at Iran with what appears would be support

from a lot of voters.

I hope to heck that doesn't happen. Personally, if we can have nukes, I see no reason for bombing other countries to keep them from getting the same.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #12)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:03 PM

14. I hope it doesn't happen. But I'd bet money on a trump property.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #14)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:07 PM

17. The jerk will just claim he has sacrificed so much for America. n/t

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #7)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:43 PM

22. the fact that approval isn't at least 70% indicates Trump still has some PR work to do

to poll under 50% approval for offing an alleged terrorist mastermind is surprising, that stuff is typically used as a show piece for our bloodthirsty population
at this point, all Iran would have to do to capitalize on the situation is... nothing.

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Response to 0rganism (Reply #22)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:58 PM

24. Maybe, but poll indicates to me even a significant percentage of Democrats

donít see it as improper or just donít care.

I donít think Iran will do anything major. trump and hawks will, of course, blame Iran for anything that happens in next six months.

I still hope we leave Iraq.

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Response to Hoyt (Reply #24)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:09 PM

25. fair enough, i do think it's another telltale Trump underperformance

the Trumpists have been openly hating on Iran for years. Trump has the military blow up a man Trumpists describe as a terrorist leader about to launch attacks against our people and interests around the world...

...and gets 43% approval for it.

over half of Americans won't support Trump when he kills a person he calls a terrorist. this strikes me as at least somewhat important, especially since he's only a couple neuron misfires away from declaring all Democrats to be traitors.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:52 PM

8. No matter how many Americans support the assassination of Soleimani, it's stilll a war crime

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Response to dlk (Reply #8)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:59 PM

11. Nope. Soleimani was killing civilians and US forces in Iraq. You do that and

you may be legally taken out as a terrorist. I'm thinking it was bad and may lead to war but Soleimani was a state sponsored terrorist killing innocents.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #11)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:03 PM

13. Do you know how many hundreds of thousands of civilians

 

we have killed in the Iraq and Afghanistan war?

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:03 PM

15. Millions over the years.

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:08 PM

18. Yes. War is wrong. Iran and Iraq are not at war. They are allies. US is in Iraq at request of Iraqi

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government until yesterday. Iran attacking civilians and US troops in Iraq is state sponsored terrorism. Do not build soleimani up to be anything better than a terrorist. That being said tearing up the Iran deal and ratcheting up to war is misguided. Looks like Pompeo was the one whispering in Trump's ear and he's an evangelical who wants end times where you and i will burn in hell.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #18)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:32 PM

38. LOL. Soleimani was in Iraq at the request of that same Iraqi government

We have no right to act unilaterally in their name when they did not ask us too. And what Iran is doing in Iraq is no different that what we've done all over the world for decades, if not centuries.

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #13)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:47 PM

58. A retaliatory assassination of a foreign government official is illegal

Granted Soleimani was a monster, however, we are not in a declared war with Iran (yet), and assassinating him for previous bad acts was illegal.

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Response to dlk (Reply #58)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 04:07 AM

60. if illegal, it is an illegality with long precedent

(I do not disagree in principle. Just not sure if that designation means a great deal, given the practical history here.)

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 06:58 PM

10. They should ask that question every month

I bet weíd see approval numbers tank. Some Americans are just dazzled by the thought of killing others, especially if theyíre brown AND Muslim, but not so dazzled by our people getting killed.

These polls are stupid and predictable. Itís always the same. Idiots will be idiots no matter how often their idiocy slams them upside their idiotic heads.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:04 PM

16. Ask the question fast

Want to get a good high number in support of Trump before too many details come along to spoil things for U! S! A! crowd.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:35 PM

19. 43% are idiots

This was a completely unprovoked, unconstitutional act of war. Period. The same lies and BS will accompany this war that accompanies the last war (and the one we still wage). We are "taxed enough already", can't provide higher education, quality infrastructure and health care to our people, but by goddamnit we never avoid a war and by the time the corporate media and probably a few Democratic sellouts get done, we'll be playing the anthem and waving flags. Wash/Rinse/Repeat. This is all being lead by the most incompetent of men, a real piece of vermin. What's that make us?

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Response to kwolf68 (Reply #19)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:32 PM

37. +1000

This is so fucking depressing.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:36 PM

20. 100% of those 43% had never heard of Soleimani

before he was killed.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #20)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:17 PM

29. Exactly.

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Response to IcyPeas (Reply #20)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:26 PM

33. +1

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 07:51 PM

23. It's the same old 40% who would support him if he gutted a live puppy on national tv. nt

 

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:10 PM

26. And the vast majority of those people didn't even know who the fuck he was until 3 days ago

Sick - the culture of death.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:13 PM

27. Look around here

there are several who are very vocal about how it is a good thing.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #27)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:21 PM

32. Saying what Trump did is not a war crime yet is not being supportive

of the killing.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #32)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:37 PM

40. Bullshit

Assassination of a foreign national is illegal under both international and U.S. law. The U.S. would have to be at war with Iran for this to be considered legal, and we are not. We were at war with Al Qaeda after 9-11, that was different. Congress authorized military action. And actually we were at war with them even before that, because they very specifically declared war against us in an official declaration.

No state of war exists with Iran. This was straight up murder. Call it a war crime or call it a crime. It was illegal under both international and U.S. law. Oh, and it was really fucking stupid too.

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #40)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:44 PM

42. He was not at war but Soleimani did a campaign of roadside bombs in Iraq against americans troops

and civilians to get the US to leave Iraq to them. Terrorism. Soleimani was a state sponsored terrorist. I agree it was stupid to kill him. Also stupid to rip up the anti nuke agreement John Kerry negotiated. Radical islam was becoming less popular after ISIS. Bet this revs it up again. This was bad.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #42)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:47 PM

43. Nope. Sorry.

Supporting a local population resisting an illegal foreign invasion is not terrorism. By that rationale, the American support of Afghanistan in its resistance to the Soviet Union, or Tibetan exiles against China, or God knows how many other times we have done this, could also be considered terrorism. And that means other countries would have a right to kill our military generals.

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Response to applegrove (Reply #42)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:25 PM

57. Then bring him in to face crimes against the US, still no justification for violation of EO 11905

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Response to Downtown Hound (Reply #40)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:24 PM

56. THIS !!!! Also EO 11905 defines that there should be no assassinations

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #56)

Tue Jan 7, 2020, 12:00 AM

59. Ocasio-Cortez and Ilhan Omar did not call it a war crime. They said destroying

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Response to applegrove (Reply #32)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:08 PM

47. There are several who argue that it was the right thing to do

that is being supportive of him.

It wasn't the right thing to do, but some are really eager for war, even around here.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #47)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:22 PM

53. Well it is not a war crime but he is squandering the less radical islam, that

was the dividend of beating something as evil as ISIS,with all of the Trump Iranian policy including killing Soleimani.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #27)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:23 PM

55. +1

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:16 PM

28. Bless their hearts!

Isn't that special!

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:27 PM

34. Support for this is at the highest point it ever will be. More facts will lead to less support.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:27 PM

35. Right around Trump's approval rating.

In other words, no surprise there. Those idiots would eat shit if Trump told them too.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:29 PM

36. Wonder how many of that 43% are end timers?

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Response to maryellen99 (Reply #36)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:39 PM

41. Since it's pretty much his approval rating

I'd say all of his evangelical support base.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:33 PM

39. If Trump was a normal president approval would be much higher.

Everything he does is rightfully viewed with suspicion. As for myself I'm taking a wait and see approach and trying to judge the action as if It was done by a president I don't loathe.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:52 PM

45. So 57% don't

 

Havenít read that here, thatís a majority

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Response to Rollerman (Reply #45)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:22 PM

52. Actually 38% don't

 

and the remainder donít know or canít be arsed to decide.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 08:52 PM

46. 43% would support him

if he raped and murdered a 6 year old on nationwide TV.

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Response to doc03 (Reply #46)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:09 PM

48. That 43% would support him if

the six year old was their own child.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #48)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:11 PM

50. They would claim it was fake news nt

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:11 PM

49. Jerk ass Americans

what was the imminent danger?????? Lies again.

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:11 PM

51. That was his 5th ave moment

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Response to applegrove (Original post)

Mon Jan 6, 2020, 09:23 PM

54. That's a low number

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