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Mon Dec 30, 2019, 10:51 PM

Good vs bad deep states: The one that RatF***ed Jimmy CARTER:: Kissinger/David Rockefeller

RAYGUN and Poppy came later in the ratF***ing.


How a Chase Bank Chairman Helped the Deposed Shah of Iran Enter the U.S.
The fateful decision in 1979 to admit Mohammed Reza Pahlavi prompted the seizure of the American Embassy in Tehran and helped doom the Carter presidency.

By David D. Kirkpatrick
.... “The Eagle has landed,” Joseph V. Reed Jr., the chief of staff to the bank’s chairman, David Rockefeller, declared in a celebratory meeting at the bank the next morning.

Less than two weeks later, on Nov. 4, 1979, vowing revenge for the admission of the shah to the United States, revolutionary Iranian students seized the American Embassy in Tehran and then held more than 50 Americans — and Washington — hostage for 444 days.

The shah sought refuge in America. But President Jimmy Carter, hoping to forge ties to the new government rising out of the chaos and concerned about the security of the United States Embassy in Tehran, refused him entry for the first 10 months of his exile. Even then, the White House only begrudgingly let him in for medical treatment.

Now, a newly disclosed secret history from the offices of Mr. Rockefeller shows in vivid detail how Chase Manhattan Bank and its well-connected chairman worked behind the scenes to persuade the Carter administration to admit the shah, one of the bank’s most profitable clients. ....

This Is What the Deep State Actually Looks Like
The story of Jimmy Carter's administration and the shah of Iran tells us a whole lot about American meddling overseas and overseas meddling in America. So does Ronald Reagan's role.

This always was the original stupidity at the heart of over 40 years of poisonous relations between this country and Iran. (The 1953 coup that brought down the Mossadegh government in favor of bringing the shah to power was not stupidity. It was the calculated logic of imperium, which is not the same thing.) The documents examined by the Times for this report clearly indicate that the Carter Administration knew good and well that admitting the shah was the equivalent of lighting a fuse. But, like LBJ folding on Vietnam to the Harvard alumni association in his administration, Carter couldn’t or wouldn’t stand up against this gathering of the foreign policy Ents that came loping up the driveway of the White House. So the shah came to America and everything went to hell. ....

They included Henry A. Kissinger, the former secretary of state and the chairman of a Chase advisory board; John J. McCloy, the former commissioner of occupied Germany after World War II and an adviser to eight presidents as well as a future Chase chairman; a Chase executive and former C.I.A. agent, Archibald B. Roosevelt Jr., whose cousin, the C.I.A. agent Kermit Roosevelt Jr., had orchestrated a 1953 coup to keep the shah in power; and Richard M. Helms, a former director of the C.I.A. and former ambassador to Iran.

Charles Francis, a veteran of corporate public affairs who worked for Chase at the time, brought the documents to the attention of The Times.

“Today’s corporate campaigns are demolition derbies compared to this operation,” he said. “It was smooth, smooth, smooth and almost entirely invisible.” ....

(The Reagan people tried to run the riff that Reagan’s election had scared the Iranians into releasing the hostages. The Iran-Contra scandal took care of that fantasy, but that was five years later.) ....


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Reply Good vs bad deep states: The one that RatF***ed Jimmy CARTER:: Kissinger/David Rockefeller (Original post)
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Response to UTUSN (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 11:00 AM

1. Cashing in one Rec for a visibility Kick. CARTER will be proved to have been prey to

far more insidious powers that were out to neutralize him. The ROCKEFELLERs and KISSINGER - in the class of RICHELIEU et al., only Satan is more devious.

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Response to UTUSN (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 11:13 AM

2. Great post


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Response to malaise (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 11:28 AM

3. CARTER's stock will go way up in the History department. He's too decent to dance

on KISSINGER's grave when the time comes, but *I*m not!1

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Response to UTUSN (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 11:29 AM

4. We'll do it for him

Happy New Year

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Tue Dec 31, 2019, 11:31 AM

5. Jimmy Carter stood up to Big Oil. He needed the nation to stand with him.

Instead, Capitalism’s Invisible Army got busy with the Safari Club. Soon, the Carter Presidency was history.

The Deep State Plots The 1980 Defeat Of Jimmy Carter

By Peter Dale Scott
WhoWhatWhy.com on Nov 2, 2014

The Safari Club was an alliance between national intelligence agencies that wished to compensate for the CIA’s retrenchment in the wake of President Carter’s election and Senator Church’s post-Watergate reforms. As former Saudi intelligence chief Prince Turki bin Faisal once told Georgetown University alumni,

In 1976, after the Watergate matters took place here, your intelligence community was literally tied up by Congress. It could not do anything. It could not send spies, it could not write reports, and it could not pay money. In order to compensate for that, a group of countries got together in the hope of fighting Communism and established what was called the Safari Club. The Safari Club included France, Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Morocco, and Iran. (1)

After Carter was elected, the Safari Club allied itself with Richard Helms and Theodore Shackley against the more restrained intelligence policies of Jimmy Carter, according to Joseph Trento. In Trento’s account, the dismissal by William Colby in 1974 of CIA counterintelligence chief James Angleton,

combined with Watergate, is what prompted the Safari Club to start working with (former DCI Richard) Helms (then U.S. Ambassador to Iran) and his most trusted operatives outside of Congressional and even Agency purview. James Angleton said before his death that “Shackley and Helms … began working with outsiders like Adham and Saudi Arabia. The traditional CIA answering to the president was an empty vessel having little more than technical capability.”(2)

Trento adds that “The Safari Club needed a network of banks to finance its intelligence operations. With the official blessing of George Bush as the head of the CIA, Adham transformed . . . the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), into a worldwide money-laundering machine.”(3) Trento claims also that the Safari Club then was able to work with some of the controversial CIA operators who had been forced out of the CIA by Turner, and that this was coordinated by Theodore Shackley:

Shackley, who still had ambitions to become DCI, believed that without his many sources and operatives like (Edwin) Wilson, the Safari Club—operating with (former DCI Richard) Helms in charge in Tehran—would be ineffective. . . . Unless Shackley took direct action to complete the privatization of intelligence operations soon, the Safari Club would not have a conduit to (CIA) resources. The solution: create a totally private intelligence network using CIA assets until President Carter could be replaced. (4)

During the 1980 election campaign each party accused the other of plotting an October Surprise to elect their candidate. Subsequently other journalists, notably Robert Parry, accused CIA veterans on the Reagan campaign, along with Shackley, of an arguably treasonable but successful plot with Iranians to delay return of the U.S. hostages until Reagan took office in January 1981. (5)


The oil majors’ manipulation of domestic oil prices, combined with Carter’s failure to bring the hostages home, combined to cause the first defeat for an elected president running for reelection, since that of Herbert Hoover in 1932.



Petrodollars tie Trump’s foreign, domestic and environmental policies together: whatever it takes to extract the black gold and turn a buck advances his bosses in Russia, Saudi Arabia, Wall Street Banksters, Deutsche Bank, etc etc etc.

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 11:40 AM

6. Thanks.

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Response to UTUSN (Original post)

Tue Dec 31, 2019, 12:04 PM

7. HAH there's a page on "KISSINGER's Death" - I didn't do it!1

I googled "Kissinger's health" to see how that's going, and the death watch popped up!1 Plus, BOURDAIN had a scathing take on him quoted there.


Facebook "Daily Updates About Henry Kissinger's Health / @KissingerOfDeath" - https://www.facebook.com/KissingerOfDeath/

Anthony Bourdain Really, Really Hated Henry Kissinger

.... Bourdain had the following to say about Kissinger in his 2001 book, A Cook’s Tour:

“Once you’ve been to Cambodia, you’ll never stop wanting to beat Henry Kissinger to death with your bare hands. You will never again be able to open a newspaper and read about that treacherous, prevaricating, murderous scumbag sitting down for a nice chat with Charlie Rose or attending some black-tie affair for a new glossy magazine without choking. Witness what Henry did in Cambodia – the fruits of his genius for statesmanship – and you will never understand why he’s not sitting in the dock at The Hague next to Milošević.” ....

Then there were his comments to the New Yorker’s Patrick Radden Keefe in a profile last year:

"He then launched into a tirade about how it sickens him, having travelled in Southeast Asia, to see Kissinger embraced by the power-lunch crowd. 'Any journalist who has ever been polite to Henry Kissinger, you know, fuck that person,' he said, his indignation rising. 'I’m a big believer in moral gray areas, but, when it comes to that guy, in my view he should not be able to eat at a restaurant in New York.'

I pointed out that Bourdain had made similarly categorical denunciations of many people, only to bury the hatchet and join them for dinner.

“Emeril didn’t bomb Cambodia!” he said.



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