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[marble falls]

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[no_hypocrisy]

1. And has everyone forgotten his takedown of Bill Clinton during the Radio & TV Correspondents' Dinner

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c4842056/user-clip-don-imus-1996-white-house-correspondents-association-dinner

[marble falls]

2. Didn't forget it, it still pisses me off. Thanks for the link, I'll watch it again.

[Hortensis]

3. His whole shock-jock schtick was over the line. He'd pretend to be

an ignorant and bigoted RWer, or whatever-er. His guests, who included some very respected people (Doris Kearns-Goodwin was on often), would explain why he was wrong, and he'd grumpily admit that maybe there was something to it. Wash, rinse, repeat each night. Pushing the line constantly, but constantly without the malice or nastiness of the small-minded and/or racist attitudes he attempted to enlighten.

I used to see his show at 10:30 only because it preceded Nightline, back in the days when Nightline was worth watching. The "woolly-headed" remark wasn't the only one around then that could be taken as waaay over the line; I heard it and was concerned about his carelessness. Oh, well.

He took harsher digs at himself than anyone/everyone else, every night, and that egalitarian-insulting approach was the context. His show attempted to enlighten the ignorance that fosters bigotry no matter how he's portrayed. Imo, those who silenced him should not be quite so proud of that, even if they still feel it was for the best.

RIP, Imus.

[malaise]

8. The worst part was that the producers of the program

encouraged it.

[Hortensis]

16. What was the name of the guy in the show that was

taken off the air before Imus's show was created? An even more bizarre runup to Ted Koppel's Nightline.

The conservative brute of a host would stride around a open floor surrounded by audience, grab and kiss a couple of women in a symbolic rape, then verbally eviscerate some nerd chosen for his scrawny build and inability to express his liberal ideology coherently.

I believe that obnoxious jerk crashed pretty badly after his brief time with his own show. ?

In any case, I'm guessing Imus's not-so-secret moderate decency and good sense in a shock-jock package was the producers' attempt to serve the same audience far more responsibly. Imus moved to a show on an agricultural network. I watched a bit a couple times while scrolling past, a sad comedown, but Kearns Goodwin was appearing on one of them. Nice.

Doris Kearns Goodwin: Empathy Is An "Essential Leadership Quality"

[kskiska]

17. Morton Downey, Jr.

"Step up to the loudmouth."

[Hortensis]

19. That's him. I can only wonder at the 9 or 9:30 series

that gathered an audience the network used him to try to keep tuned. You didn't see people like Tim Russert or presidential historians Goodwin on this show.

[kskiska]

23. Before him, if you're old enough to remember,

There was Alan Burke and Joe Pyne who used to have off-beat guests, some of whom had claimed to have been taken aboard flying saucers, and others who espoused various conspiracy theories, or beliefs. The hosts often attacked them, which made for great fun. I think they were on Channel 5 WNEW in the NYC area.

[malaise]

18. Wow!

It's all a money making circus to the owners and their producers. Happy Holidays

[Hoyt]

15. Didn't watch often. So, was never sure whether he was a white wing racist, or mocking

ignorance and racism. Might of watched more if I had been sure of the latter. I know he helped a lot of kids.

[Hortensis]

20. I wouldn't have watched and known either if I

wasn't waiting for Nightline. In those days of course you couldn't set shows to record, and I never listened to his radio shows before or after. But he reached some people with messages they needed, and apparently were couched in ways they'd listen to.

[CaptYossarian]

4. Are you sure it was a comedy album? Comedy implies that something is funny.

[marble falls]

5. I was under that illusion myself. "That Honky's Nuts" is singularly unfunny.

[CaptYossarian]

7. I think his target audience now wears stupid red MAGA caps.

[marble falls]

9. Not a doubt in my mind. I don't think he was making fun of bigots ...

as some claim. I think he was a major bigot for real.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

6. You're SO right, and Howard Stern is EVEN WORSE...why would ANY politician have gone on either show

and give these pricks credibility after they've established themselves as racist, misogynist assholes?! I think I already know the answer/excuse, so no need to respond... unless you really feel the need.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[marble falls]

11. I have friends who think Stern is the funniest thing walking, all I ...

see is someone who gets off saying outrageous crap about guests that are as likely to be pathetic as to be celebrities.

[InAbLuEsTaTe]

13. There's nothin funny said by a racist, sexist, homophobe, bigot...shame on anyone who props him up.

Yes, what you said bout most of Stern's guests.


Bernie/Elizabeth or Elizabeth/Bernie 2020!!
Either way, they're stronger together & can't be bought!!
Jump on the Bernie Bandwagon & join the revolution!!

[CaptYossarian]

14. One night on Bob Costas' old talk show, Tom Snyder filled in.

The mild-mannered Snyder called guest Howard Stern a punk and chased him off the stage.

[elleng]

10. and Gwen Ifill

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017563137

[marble falls]

12. She said it straight and I like how she put Tim Russert and David Brooks ...

on the spot.

[UTUSN]

21. K&R for, *I'm* dancing, despite the speak-no-ill crowd.

To the latter I say, no the crap done isn't over with the perpetrator's death. That's what everybody else has to live with when the perpetrator is gone. That's why the slate ain't wiped clean.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

22. Fuck Don Imus and his apologists.