Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:06 PM

stopbush (24,073 posts)

To all those fawning over the Christianity Today article

Does no one have a problem with this gratuitous lie and slur that heads the article?:

“Let’s grant this to the president: The Democrats have had it out for him from day one, and therefore nearly everything they do is under a cloud of partisan suspicion. This has led many to suspect not only motives but facts in these recent impeachment hearings. And, no, Mr. Trump did not have a serious opportunity to offer his side of the story in the House hearings on impeachment.”

Absolute bullshit on every level.

Fuck them.

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To all those fawning over the Christianity Today article (Original post)	stopbush	Dec 2019	OP
That also lends more credibility	Bettie	Dec 2019	#1
Yes. CT needs to first establish its anti-D cred with its readers. It does that by lying.	stopbush	Dec 2019	#5
Yep. This isn't "fawning over" the op ed.	GoCubsGo	Dec 2019	#8
I have zero expectation of truth in anything	Bettie	Dec 2019	#14
I imagine there are some Ds who read CT. Are they sitting at home agreeing that	stopbush	Dec 2019	#11
Meh	Cosmocat	Dec 2019	#34
I grew up among Evangelicals. I was told every day to love them.	Girard442	Dec 2019	#46
They're not starting to turn, they got their judges and now they're done with him. IT's not like	uponit7771	Dec 2019	#62
It doesn't bother me at all	StarfishSaver	Dec 2019	#2
See my reply #5.	stopbush	Dec 2019	#6
Eh, the last sentence is nonsense	ScratchCat	Dec 2019	#3
Totally agree with your comment on people	wnylib	Dec 2019	#47
Exactly 100% out for all birthers	grantcart	Dec 2019	#49
People who say "not my president"	The Mouth	Dec 2019	#55
His win was the result of a coordinated foreign attack	Qutzupalotl	Dec 2019	#65
Of course the orange abomination released his usual tweet attack on the magazine	captain queeg	Dec 2019	#4
Indeed. Life is generally unfair to billionaires. The rest of us need to have pity	stopbush	Dec 2019	#9
Excellent.	tavernier	Dec 2019	#42
Right. And now that they got their judges for the next 30 years	question everything	Dec 2019	#7
But if we can get Supremes appointed,	wnylib	Dec 2019	#50
You know, Trump had it out for Obama for YEARS before we	maxsolomon	Dec 2019	#10
They were out against Bill long before the	wnylib	Dec 2019	#54
Yep, they have no sympathy here	treestar	Dec 2019	#60
Oh, I noticed it. I always notice gratuitous insults aimed at me.	Hortensis	Dec 2019	#12
They want Pence in Office	JustAnotherGen	Dec 2019	#13
Pence is an evangelical's dream.	redstatebluegirl	Dec 2019	#33
I think you may have something there.	tavernier	Dec 2019	#43
And Then?	ProfessorGAC	Dec 2019	#63
Because from day one he was guilty of violating the emoluments law	Fullduplexxx	Dec 2019	#15
It was a courageous move on the part of CT	Mme. Defarge	Dec 2019	#16
I, personally, do not trust the motives...	dchill	Dec 2019	#52
You are probably right about the Pence angle.	wnylib	Dec 2019	#56
I won't even waste my fucking time . . . But, call me a "fawner." I'll cop to it.	NBachers	Dec 2019	#17
I've "had it out for him"	Mr.Bill	Dec 2019	#18
I was hardly fawning earlier	Vogon_Glory	Dec 2019	#19
So what if Democrats have had it out for him from day one	standingtall	Dec 2019	#20
I had it out for him before day one.	panader0	Dec 2019	#32
Exactly	ChazInAz	Dec 2019	#35
+1,000 n/t	MarcA	Dec 2019	#58
"Cops and prosecutors have had it out for criminals from day one	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2019	#21
Talking out of both sides of their christian mouths.	ancianita	Dec 2019	#22
I have pointed out that egregious lie on numerous sites today.	Pacifist Patriot	Dec 2019	#23
Yep, that pissed me off when I read it.	bitterross	Dec 2019	#24
The point here is that	zentrum	Dec 2019	#25
This is enough for me...	Chakaconcarne	Dec 2019	#26
I'm glad they said it. It shows they are genuinely trying to deprogram the cult	Azathoth	Dec 2019	#27
Remember how they came down on Republicans	PoindexterOglethorpe	Dec 2019	#28
This message was self-deleted by its author	InAbLuEsTaTe	Dec 2019	#29
Wrong forum.	nolabear	Dec 2019	#31
Accept the help. Just take it. It doesn't matter.	nolabear	Dec 2019	#30
For some reason, people like to break up Repub circular firing squads	Kaleva	Dec 2019	#37
I'll take the help where we can get it.	RelativelyJones	Dec 2019	#36
My Thought When First Reading	DallasNE	Dec 2019	#38
I am just happy they are turning on Trump.	Gore1FL	Dec 2019	#39
I can't imagine anyone at DU "fawning" over	wnylib	Dec 2019	#40
I thought the rethugs made Trump's side of the story	scarytomcat	Dec 2019	#41
My tweet in response to this nonsense that Dems had it in for Trump	meow2u3	Dec 2019	#44
Aside from the last sentence, what about it is untrue?	Ms. Toad	Dec 2019	#45
Not only that but those sentences that we object to will only increase the impact to	grantcart	Dec 2019	#48
Like most Christians I know,	Mickju	Dec 2019	#51
If I hear that lie about how he didn't get a chance to defend himself	ooky	Dec 2019	#53
Well, if it established credibility for the main point of the article, then...	zaj	Dec 2019	#57
But but but....	onecaliberal	Dec 2019	#59
We can't grasp at crumbs...from this rag or	live love laugh	Dec 2019	#61
Fake Christians are still our enemy.	roamer65	Dec 2019	#64
They are real Christians	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2019	#71
K&R	UTUSN	Dec 2019	#66
He's damaging their brand.	herding cats	Dec 2019	#67
Evangelicals favored 45 because they like his "pro-life" and "pro-religious freedom" views ...	eppur_se_muova	Dec 2019	#68
yeah i saw that too	bucolic_frolic	Dec 2019	#69
I can't speak for other Democrats	radical noodle	Dec 2019	#70
I have had it out for trump* before day one	MyNameGoesHere	Dec 2019	#72

Response to stopbush (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 02:12 PM

Bettie (13,695 posts)

1. That also lends more credibility

to the article with those who need to hear it.

Is the publication one I think is good, decent, above board? Nope. That isn't the point.

The point is that HIS people are starting to turn.

I'm taking it as a positive sign that even the worst out there are starting to say "This isn't OK".

To all those fawning over the Christianity Today article

1. That also lends more credibility

5. Yes. CT needs to first establish its anti-D cred with its readers. It does that by lying.

8. Yep. This isn't "fawning over" the op ed.

14. I have zero expectation of truth in anything

11. I imagine there are some Ds who read CT. Are they sitting at home agreeing that

34. Meh

46. I grew up among Evangelicals. I was told every day to love them.

62. They're not starting to turn, they got their judges and now they're done with him. IT's not like

2. It doesn't bother me at all

6. See my reply #5.

3. Eh, the last sentence is nonsense

47. Totally agree with your comment on people

49. Exactly 100% out for all birthers

55. People who say "not my president"

65. His win was the result of a coordinated foreign attack

4. Of course the orange abomination released his usual tweet attack on the magazine

9. Indeed. Life is generally unfair to billionaires. The rest of us need to have pity

42. Excellent.

7. Right. And now that they got their judges for the next 30 years

50. But if we can get Supremes appointed,

10. You know, Trump had it out for Obama for YEARS before we

54. They were out against Bill long before the

60. Yep, they have no sympathy here

12. Oh, I noticed it. I always notice gratuitous insults aimed at me.

13. They want Pence in Office

33. Pence is an evangelical's dream.

43. I think you may have something there.

63. And Then?

15. Because from day one he was guilty of violating the emoluments law

16. It was a courageous move on the part of CT

52. I, personally, do not trust the motives...

56. You are probably right about the Pence angle.

17. I won't even waste my fucking time . . . But, call me a "fawner." I'll cop to it.

18. I've "had it out for him"

19. I was hardly fawning earlier

20. So what if Democrats have had it out for him from day one

32. I had it out for him before day one.

35. Exactly

58. +1,000 n/t

21. "Cops and prosecutors have had it out for criminals from day one

22. Talking out of both sides of their christian mouths.

23. I have pointed out that egregious lie on numerous sites today.

24. Yep, that pissed me off when I read it.

25. The point here is that

26. This is enough for me...

27. I'm glad they said it. It shows they are genuinely trying to deprogram the cult

28. Remember how they came down on Republicans

31. Wrong forum.

30. Accept the help. Just take it. It doesn't matter.

37. For some reason, people like to break up Repub circular firing squads

36. I'll take the help where we can get it.

38. My Thought When First Reading

39. I am just happy they are turning on Trump.

40. I can't imagine anyone at DU "fawning" over

41. I thought the rethugs made Trump's side of the story

44. My tweet in response to this nonsense that Dems had it in for Trump

45. Aside from the last sentence, what about it is untrue?

48. Not only that but those sentences that we object to will only increase the impact to

51. Like most Christians I know,

53. If I hear that lie about how he didn't get a chance to defend himself

57. Well, if it established credibility for the main point of the article, then...

59. But but but....

61. We can't grasp at crumbs...from this rag or

64. Fake Christians are still our enemy.

71. They are real Christians

66. K&R

67. He's damaging their brand.

68. Evangelicals favored 45 because they like his "pro-life" and "pro-religious freedom" views ...

69. yeah i saw that too

70. I can't speak for other Democrats

72. I have had it out for trump* before day one