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Fri Dec 20, 2019, 08:24 AM

Christianity Today has long history of opposing LGBT rights

See July 18, 2016 article by Fred Clark at his blog slacktivist at patheos

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 08:42 AM

1. Ok, so they do. That does not stop the significance of the editorial.

To the community that reads and subscribes this is important.. To those of us that do not it certainly gives us a great deal of ammunition. IMHO

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Response to 7wo7rees (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 09:20 AM

5. Actually, it underlines the significance of the editorial

these people are NOT on our side, yet, they see that he needs to go.

This will help move a small number of that community.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 10:15 AM

6. They need to see him ousted because he is ruining their brand...

The editorial is right (from the excerpts I've seen, I haven't read it), Trump is ruining the Christian brand.

In her book, The March of Folly, Barbara Tuchman spends an entire section explaining how the corruption, venality, and naked greed of the Popes in Medieval Europe led directly to the Protestant Reformation.

As an outsider, I know there are good Christians out there, but the more visible, more vocal ones are destroying the credibility of all. The bullshit prayer vigils in the Oval Office with Trump are ridiculous in the extreme. Rational people don't buy a minute of it. The thought that Trump is in any sense a "good Christian" is ludicrous.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 08:51 AM

2. Thanks for sharing that

His conclusions line up with what I see myself, particularly the eagerness by many effectively trump supporters who want to be bystanders, and the need to defend and excuse the cruelties of Trump and his supporters over the need to protect those who are actually menaced by him and his followers.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 09:02 AM

3. Makes the editorial even more significant

It's a right wing, evangelical publication that has called for Dotard's ouster.

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Response to mcar (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 10:19 AM

7. Exactly. These people are horrible religious wacks, AND EVEN THEY KNOW

Dingleberry is a corrupt asshole.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 09:11 AM

4. I am sure that there are many issues where their position would be 180 degrees from ours

However, that is what gives this editorial weight. They are undeniably conservative, both politically and in terms of individual morality. They reject the often repeated idea that religious evangelicals should support Trump because he gave them 2 very conservative SCJ.

I have no idea how many people will follow them, but this is both unexpected and genuine.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 10:41 AM

8. That is true, which makes it a trusted publication by the "Christian" Right.

So, that makes their opinion about Trump even more effective. It may cause some to question their loyalty to the orange menace.

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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:12 PM

9. I was in the Star Wars universe yesterday, so I had no idea what this thread was about.

Had to look...

Evangelical Magazine Christianity Today Calls for Trumpís Removal

The magazine said the president had abused his power and violated the Constitution. Mr. Trump responded by saying he had done more for evangelicals than any other president.

--more--

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/19/us/christianity-today-trump.html



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Response to bobbieinok (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:23 PM

10. They would certainly prefer Pence to Trump

Pence's level of corruption and dishonesty seems miniscule compared to Trump. Pence would put on an appearance of Christian humility and civility rather than Trump's lack of contrition and blatant disregard and violation of the Ten Commandments.

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