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Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:09 PM

GOP had to cheat in several races to control the Senate.

If the Senate was based on popular vote and GOP were prevented from cheating like in GA and elsewhere, not only would the GOP never control the Senate EVER again, the numbers would be permanently 65-35 give or take.

The madness that mcconnell has anything to say about anything...this is not a democracy.

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Reply GOP had to cheat in several races to control the Senate. (Original post)
Eliot Rosewater Dec 2019 OP
LakeArenal Dec 2019 #1
FBaggins Dec 2019 #2
Drahthaardogs Dec 2019 #3
kelly1mm Dec 2019 #4

Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:15 PM

1. In Wisconsin they cheat big time.

We have it all. Gerrymandering. Rigged voting machines. Missing ballots, found ballots, too many ballots, purges, ID requirements, fewer polling places, fewer hours, intimidation... there’s probably more.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:44 PM

2. An argument could be made on "control"

But 65-35 would require a remarkable amount of cheating. It would mean that some Senators who won by solid double digits didn't really win.

For instance... there are 20 states that are ranked as R+9 or worse (meaning roughly that an average republican against an average democrat in an average year would win by 18%). That's 40 seats.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:57 PM

3. If we would actually turn out to vote like they do,

It would be impossible to cheat enough to beat us.

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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 01:21 AM

4. The elections for Senate are based on popular vote in each state? nt

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