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Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:08 PM

The Constitution, Not Trump, Goes to the Senate for Trial

Am I right?

Trump is the enabler of impeachable offenses. The House of Representatives weighed Trumpís behaviors and found him Constitutionally guilty of Abuse of Power & Obstruction of Congress.

Isnít the purpose of the Senate to impartially review The House of Representatives Impeachment caseís Constitutional merit?

And, if so, both for historical records and fact finding/confirmation, isnít the Senate Constitutionally obligated to hold a detailed, impartial review/trial?

Isnít a major purpose of the Senate Impeachment review/trial to protect and set Constitutional precedents and to protect and guide all three co-equal Branches for this moment and the future?

From an eternal perspective, the defense of the US Constitutionís checks and balances are on trial and hugely more important than Trump.

That said, if impartially tried and if Constitutional Protection demands conclude ďGuilty on One or Both CountsĒ then the Senate trial moves its focus to a remedy for the perpetrator, in this case DJT.

Am I missing something?

Iíd like to see/hear Democrats & MSNBC heroís speak more to the urgency of protecting the US Constitution and itís mandated co-equal Branches.

If the Executive Branch gets away with stonewalling the Constitutional oversight of the House of Representatives, what will be lost?

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Reply The Constitution, Not Trump, Goes to the Senate for Trial (Original post)
OhNo-Really Dec 2019 OP
TwilightZone Dec 2019 #1
OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #2
TwilightZone Dec 2019 #3
OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #4
OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #7
Karadeniz Dec 2019 #5
OhNo-Really Dec 2019 #6
Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #8

Response to OhNo-Really (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:20 PM

1. "found him Constitutionally guilty"

No, they found that there was enough evidence to draft articles of impeachment. It is up to the Senate to determine if he is guilty.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:24 PM

2. ? Trump is Impeached on 2 Counts.

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Response to OhNo-Really (Reply #2)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:35 PM

3. And?

The impeachment phase does not determine guilt or innocence. It determines only if there is enough evidence to warrant sending articles of impeachment to the Senate for trial by the Senate. It's similar to a grand jury determining if a person should be indicted.

The Senate holds a trial and determines his guilt or innocence.

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #3)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 08:58 PM

4. And yet branded Impeached for eternity.

Because of the votes of the House of Representatives regardless of the Senate

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Response to TwilightZone (Reply #1)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 11:15 AM

7. Lawrence Tribe agrees

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Response to OhNo-Really (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:33 PM

5. You are right!!!!❤

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Response to Karadeniz (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 11:35 PM

6. Thank you ❤️ I ❤️ the US Constitution

The Senate has to protect the Constitution

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Response to OhNo-Really (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 11:20 AM

8. Yes, the Constitution is really what is at question here...

It is up to the Senate to determine if Trump should be removed. If he isn't, then rule of law suffers and the Constitution takes a huge hit.

As for if Trump is "really" impeached, the votes are taken and recorded in the Congressional Record. He is impeached. If we're comparing to a criminal trial (which is admittedly a very loose comparison) he has been indicted and is awaiting trial.

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