Wed Dec 18, 2019, 09:49 PM

OliverQ (3,363 posts)

I'm still astounded not a single Republican grew a spine.

There are a lot of no votes, so some Republicans want to vote yes, but refuse to actually be on the record.

I just can't believe an entire party is betraying Democracy and the Constitution for a monster like Trump. It's truly depressing.

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I'm still astounded not a single Republican grew a spine. (Original post)	OliverQ	Dec 2019	OP
This is the end of the GOP	RainCaster	Dec 2019	#1
I doubt that, they will wear this as a badge of honor and Trump	doc03	Dec 2019	#5
Far from it. They don't fear for their jobs	Amishman	Dec 2019	#10
No it isn't. Too many people worship trump and will support them.	OliverQ	Dec 2019	#11
It's the end of those supporters.	rockfordfile	Dec 2019	#39
This is the end, my friend.	warmfeet	Dec 2019	#59
They are afraid	DownriverDem	Dec 2019	#16
Or the U.S.A.	Golden Raisin	Dec 2019	#55
At least Amash left GOP months ago, but yeah. nt	greyl	Dec 2019	#2
Traitors to their Oath of Office, each and every one. nt	Ferrets are Cool	Dec 2019	#3
Exactly.	TryLogic	Dec 2019	#25
in my heart	handmade34	Dec 2019	#4
That's the only thing that keeps me going these days.	llmart	Dec 2019	#15
If enough Senators vote to convict,	luvtheGWN	Dec 2019	#56
I'm not. (eom)	StevieM	Dec 2019	#6
They	bdamomma	Dec 2019	#7
NOT shocked ...	LenaBaby61	Dec 2019	#8
I disagree--they have been like this for years.	Evergreen Emerald	Dec 2019	#18
Precisely	Sherman A1	Dec 2019	#49
Don't be surprised. Evil exists. nt	Chichiri	Dec 2019	#9
I know. It's sad.	crickets	Dec 2019	#12
that is a political strategy in of itself.	Kurt V.	Dec 2019	#13
Even the ones who are leaving after this term couldn't do the right thing.	llmart	Dec 2019	#14
They've alienated the majority of Americans, embraced the idea of oligarchy	BuffaloJackalope	Dec 2019	#17
They've been against democracy all along	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2019	#19
Two things.	ananda	Dec 2019	#20
Names such as these are the reason Congress is so unpopular.	TryLogic	Dec 2019	#28
They fear the Twitter. I don't you would have found many of these guys	kairos12	Dec 2019	#21
Well Amash grew a spine and quit the party. He voted to impeach. That should count.	Lucky Luciano	Dec 2019	#22
me 2	Nitram	Dec 2019	#23
I'm not surprised one bit. The cowards of the GOP are deathly afraid of their base,	Progressive Jones	Dec 2019	#24
"afraid of losing the easiest, most lucrative job they've ever had."	TryLogic	Dec 2019	#30
I'm not. Slugs don't have spines.	The Velveteen Ocelot	Dec 2019	#26
Frank Lutz and Steve Brannon	LakeArenal	Dec 2019	#27
Invertebrates just can't get there.	calimary	Dec 2019	#29
the party of trump, it's like the Invasion of the Body Snatchers	spanone	Dec 2019	#31
I'm amazed too	vlyons	Dec 2019	#32
I'm not. They've weeded out almost all of the moderates...	Wounded Bear	Dec 2019	#33
It makes me nervous	captain queeg	Dec 2019	#34
After that post-"election" dinner with...	3catwoman3	Dec 2019	#54
Down the road, who next do they toss into the pResidential ring ?	magicarpet	Dec 2019	#35
But that's what their party has been up to for decades	FiveGoodMen	Dec 2019	#36
"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil"	B Stieg	Dec 2019	#37
Trump is not the man for Reps to fall on their sword for...	LV487	Dec 2019	#38
Surprised / Not Surprised	Beartracks	Dec 2019	#40
Republican Members of Congress do have spines	Bucky	Dec 2019	#41
it's not what they say, it's what they do	Demonaut	Dec 2019	#42
I too am surprised that many of these supposed learned, professional people chose	Capt. America	Dec 2019	#43
Your faith in reason and integrity is touching.	Harker	Dec 2019	#44
Not only their votes in lockstep, but their Trumplike speeches were astounding	wishstar	Dec 2019	#45
I am astounded that you	malaise	Dec 2019	#46
I am not shocked at all.	KentuckyWoman	Dec 2019	#47
The sort of confidence that comes from knowing all the ducks are in a row.	TheFourthMind	Dec 2019	#48
K&R	ck4829	Dec 2019	#50
We have an organised crime syndicate masquerading	dewsgirl	Dec 2019	#51
They needed all that hard bone and enamel for their fangs	DFW	Dec 2019	#52
I feel EXACTLY the same...	whathehell	Dec 2019	#53
I'm astounded that there are still Democrats who are hesitating.	Nitram	Dec 2019	#57
My thoughts exactly. nt	LAS14	Dec 2019	#58
I'm not.	flying_wahini	Dec 2019	#60

Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 09:50 PM

RainCaster (9,426 posts)

1. This is the end of the GOP

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 09:54 PM

doc03 (33,000 posts)

5. I doubt that, they will wear this as a badge of honor and Trump

may even get re-elected.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:00 PM

Amishman (5,312 posts)

10. Far from it. They don't fear for their jobs

If they did they would boot Trump.

They see impeachment not moving the polls. They see how utterly divided the country has become. They feel safe playing petty games, and they are right. Most have deep red districts, the vulnerable ones got the boot last year

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #1)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:00 PM

OliverQ (3,363 posts)

11. No it isn't. Too many people worship trump and will support them.

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Response to OliverQ (Reply #11)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 10:15 PM

rockfordfile (8,584 posts)

39. It's the end of those supporters.

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Response to rockfordfile (Reply #39)

Fri Dec 27, 2019, 08:45 PM

warmfeet (3,321 posts)

59. This is the end, my friend.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #1)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:09 AM

DownriverDem (5,826 posts)

16. They are afraid

of their voters and trump. If they piss off trump, he can get a trumpster to run against them. They have put their reelections before the country.

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Response to RainCaster (Reply #1)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 10:52 AM

Golden Raisin (4,442 posts)

55. Or the U.S.A.

They've got Trump in the Oval Office, McConnell iron-fisting in the Senate, Barr being rogue at "Justice" and a perilously shaky Supreme Court.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 09:53 PM

greyl (22,989 posts)

2. At least Amash left GOP months ago, but yeah. nt

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 09:53 PM

Ferrets are Cool (19,399 posts)

3. Traitors to their Oath of Office, each and every one. nt

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Response to Ferrets are Cool (Reply #3)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:25 PM

TryLogic (1,677 posts)

25. Exactly.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 09:54 PM

handmade34 (22,280 posts)

4. in my heart

I know they are on the wrong side of history... it will come out in the end

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Response to handmade34 (Reply #4)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:03 PM

llmart (14,273 posts)

15. That's the only thing that keeps me going these days.

Knowing that even though he won't be convicted in the Senate, we here will be on the right side of history.

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Response to handmade34 (Reply #4)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:15 PM

luvtheGWN (1,330 posts)

56. If enough Senators vote to convict,

the Trump is out and therefore relatively powerless. So I'm suggesting that the reason they won't vote to convict is because there is enough scandal, dirty tricks and probably outright felony in their backgrounds and bank accounts to totally destroy both their reputations and their freedom.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 09:55 PM

StevieM (10,438 posts)

6. I'm not. (eom)

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 09:56 PM

bdamomma (62,162 posts)

7. They

are not our friends across the aisle.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 09:58 PM

LenaBaby61 (6,385 posts)

8. NOT shocked ...

Have you not been paying attention? They're also scared of him.

These assholes are the party of tRumputin.

He is them, they are Him.

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Response to LenaBaby61 (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:31 AM

Evergreen Emerald (13,018 posts)

18. I disagree--they have been like this for years.

That is how Trump got in office. They initiated a coup years ago. We just did not realize it because we believed in the strength of our democracy.

Trump represents them. They are Trump.

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Response to Evergreen Emerald (Reply #18)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 06:12 PM

Sherman A1 (38,958 posts)

49. Precisely

He is the culmination of their efforts.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:00 PM

Chichiri (4,667 posts)

9. Don't be surprised. Evil exists. nt

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:00 PM

crickets (24,609 posts)

12. I know. It's sad.

Remember this when anyone starts talking about Senators telling them in private that they'd vote to convict if they had a secret ballot. That's a big lie, and a trap. Don't believe it.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:01 PM

Kurt V. (5,624 posts)

13. that is a political strategy in of itself.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:02 PM

llmart (14,273 posts)

14. Even the ones who are leaving after this term couldn't do the right thing.

Probably have cushy lobbying jobs lined up anyway, so they can't alienate their buddies.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:21 AM

BuffaloJackalope (818 posts)

17. They've alienated the majority of Americans, embraced the idea of oligarchy

to the extent that they can't maintain power without lying, disenfranchising millions of Americans, or cheating outright, and most outrageously - soliciting foreign govts, some hostile to the very concepts of freedom & liberty, to interfere in our elections.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 06:09 PM

FiveGoodMen (20,018 posts)

19. They've been against democracy all along

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 06:18 PM

ananda (27,545 posts)

20. Two things.

They have a very small, rabid, ugly base to play to.

And many of them are compromised by either Russian money,
blackmail, or both.

Including Mitch McConnell, Devin Nunes, Lindsey Graham, and so many others.

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Response to ananda (Reply #20)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:28 PM

TryLogic (1,677 posts)

28. Names such as these are the reason Congress is so unpopular.

Especially McConnell.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 06:24 PM

kairos12 (12,096 posts)

21. They fear the Twitter. I don't you would have found many of these guys

on Omaha Beach. Maybe Pismo Beach though.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:29 PM

Lucky Luciano (11,042 posts)

22. Well Amash grew a spine and quit the party. He voted to impeach. That should count.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:31 AM

Nitram (20,348 posts)

23. me 2

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:36 AM

Progressive Jones (6,011 posts)

24. I'm not surprised one bit. The cowards of the GOP are deathly afraid of their base,

and afraid of losing the easiest, most lucrative job they've ever had.

The entire GOP is a bunch of low quality Americans, especially their voters.

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Response to Progressive Jones (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:31 PM

TryLogic (1,677 posts)

30. "afraid of losing the easiest, most lucrative job they've ever had."

Bingo.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:26 PM

The Velveteen Ocelot (106,940 posts)

26. I'm not. Slugs don't have spines.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:28 PM

LakeArenal (25,815 posts)

27. Frank Lutz and Steve Brannon

That is all.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:29 PM

calimary (74,877 posts)

29. Invertebrates just can't get there.

They’re just built that way.

Or maybe when trump came along, that’s how they paid tribute. They had to line up for spine-removal surgery.

A backbone-ectomy.

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:36 PM

spanone (133,359 posts)

31. the party of trump, it's like the Invasion of the Body Snatchers

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:39 PM

vlyons (9,492 posts)

32. I'm amazed too

How do they go home and face their children? They all know that Trump is guilty as charged, and probably worse. That he is vulgar, stupid, and incompetent. And yet, they go along with the program.

They are absolutely no different than all those good Germans, who wore Nazi pins on their lapels, and stood by silently as their Jewish neighbors were rounded up and trucked off. No different than the German generals, who silently went along with Hitler's disasterous invasion of Russia in winter.

I don't get it.

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Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:41 PM

Wounded Bear (55,385 posts)

33. I'm not. They've weeded out almost all of the moderates...

especially since the Tea Party bullshit.

Now, mostly just the fanatics left. Almost 3 dozen more 'retiring' this year, too, IIRC.

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Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:42 PM

captain queeg (8,496 posts)

34. It makes me nervous

It certainly appears that sticking with Trump is going to bite them in the ass and it will be the end of the GOP. Do they know something? Are they so sure of rigging the next election that they feel untouchable?

If Romney or someone stood up and voted with the Dems at this point they’d go down on history. I think those guys are concerned about their legacy. Maybe he’ll decide he doesn’t want to be remembered as a boot licker. Showing some spine and voting with the Dems wouldn’t change anything (if it’s just one guy) but it would make someone famous.

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Response to captain queeg (Reply #34)

Mon Dec 23, 2019, 10:41 AM

3catwoman3 (21,795 posts)

54. After that post-"election" dinner with...

...Trump, isn't he already remembered as a boot-licker (or would that be ass-kisser)?

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Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:46 PM

magicarpet (12,859 posts)

35. Down the road, who next do they toss into the pResidential ring ?

President Howling Monkey Drunken Gaetz,

President Jacket off, Jack off, Gym Jordan,

President Top Secret Cow Nunes,

President Pastor Collins.

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Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:46 PM

FiveGoodMen (20,018 posts)

36. But that's what their party has been up to for decades

Why be surprised now?

Going back to 1980, they reportedly KEPT American hostages from being released until Reagan's inauguration.

Traitors who deserve execution.

Every last one.

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Fri Dec 20, 2019, 06:57 PM

B Stieg (2,410 posts)

37. "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil"

Swap out "money" for "power," and that pretty much characterizes all tRump's many minions.

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Fri Dec 20, 2019, 07:19 PM

LV487 (11 posts)

38. Trump is not the man for Reps to fall on their sword for...

Reagan, yes, Trump, no. Funny how so many Reps hated Trump when he was nominated.

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Fri Dec 20, 2019, 11:21 PM

Beartracks (12,108 posts)

40. Surprised / Not Surprised

Hope for the best, expect the Republican.

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Sat Dec 21, 2019, 12:40 AM

Bucky (52,324 posts)

41. Republican Members of Congress do have spines

They call them bone spurs, but they do have the courage of their conviction... that someone else should do the sacrificing to keep the country safe

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Sat Dec 21, 2019, 12:57 AM

Demonaut (8,674 posts)

42. it's not what they say, it's what they do

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Response to OliverQ (Original post)

Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:54 AM

Capt. America (2,477 posts)

43. I too am surprised that many of these supposed learned, professional people chose

not to see the facts for what they are.
However, I realize that as evil as the Rethugs are, they are simply following the wishes of their worse constituencies.

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Sat Dec 21, 2019, 12:37 PM

Harker (11,971 posts)

44. Your faith in reason and integrity is touching.

Now that they've clearly demonstrated their fascist, monolithic nature, I doubt there will be many future surprises left for you.

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Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:48 AM

wishstar (5,040 posts)

45. Not only their votes in lockstep, but their Trumplike speeches were astounding

So many of them went way beyond mere voting to protect him, but morphed into nasty dishonest mini- Trump clones, similar to the disgusting performances by Kavanaugh and Lindsay Graham in the Kavanaugh hearings. The eagerness to stoop so low to score points with the cult leader and their followers is deplorable.

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Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:05 AM

malaise (254,518 posts)

46. I am astounded that you

are astounded

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Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:51 AM

KentuckyWoman (6,124 posts)

47. I am not shocked at all.

I maintain anyone who still wears the R label stopped giving a shit about anyone but themselves a long time ago.

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Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:49 PM

TheFourthMind (343 posts)

48. The sort of confidence that comes from knowing all the ducks are in a row.

Headlines are already prepping the public for a Trump win in 2020.

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Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:05 AM

ck4829 (34,292 posts)

50. K&R

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Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:15 AM

dewsgirl (14,956 posts)

51. We have an organised crime syndicate masquerading

as a government. I used to think they were only being blackmailed, I have no doubt now, they are likely being threatened. I'm not going to pretend I understand what happened with Mueller, I do know he didnt do all he did to just end up providing cover for Trump. Trump regime=Russian mafia.

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Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:17 AM

DFW (50,594 posts)