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OliverQ

(3,363 posts)
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 09:49 PM Dec 2019

I'm still astounded not a single Republican grew a spine.

There are a lot of no votes, so some Republicans want to vote yes, but refuse to actually be on the record.

I just can't believe an entire party is betraying Democracy and the Constitution for a monster like Trump. It's truly depressing.

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I'm still astounded not a single Republican grew a spine. (Original Post) OliverQ Dec 2019 OP
This is the end of the GOP RainCaster Dec 2019 #1
I doubt that, they will wear this as a badge of honor and Trump doc03 Dec 2019 #5
Far from it. They don't fear for their jobs Amishman Dec 2019 #10
No it isn't. Too many people worship trump and will support them. OliverQ Dec 2019 #11
It's the end of those supporters. rockfordfile Dec 2019 #39
This is the end, my friend. warmfeet Dec 2019 #59
They are afraid DownriverDem Dec 2019 #16
Or the U.S.A. Golden Raisin Dec 2019 #55
At least Amash left GOP months ago, but yeah. nt greyl Dec 2019 #2
Traitors to their Oath of Office, each and every one. nt Ferrets are Cool Dec 2019 #3
Exactly. TryLogic Dec 2019 #25
in my heart handmade34 Dec 2019 #4
That's the only thing that keeps me going these days. llmart Dec 2019 #15
If enough Senators vote to convict, luvtheGWN Dec 2019 #56
I'm not. (eom) StevieM Dec 2019 #6
They bdamomma Dec 2019 #7
NOT shocked ... LenaBaby61 Dec 2019 #8
I disagree--they have been like this for years. Evergreen Emerald Dec 2019 #18
Precisely Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #49
Don't be surprised. Evil exists. nt Chichiri Dec 2019 #9
I know. It's sad. crickets Dec 2019 #12
that is a political strategy in of itself. Kurt V. Dec 2019 #13
Even the ones who are leaving after this term couldn't do the right thing. llmart Dec 2019 #14
They've alienated the majority of Americans, embraced the idea of oligarchy BuffaloJackalope Dec 2019 #17
They've been against democracy all along FiveGoodMen Dec 2019 #19
Two things. ananda Dec 2019 #20
Names such as these are the reason Congress is so unpopular. TryLogic Dec 2019 #28
They fear the Twitter. I don't you would have found many of these guys kairos12 Dec 2019 #21
Well Amash grew a spine and quit the party. He voted to impeach. That should count. Lucky Luciano Dec 2019 #22
me 2 Nitram Dec 2019 #23
I'm not surprised one bit. The cowards of the GOP are deathly afraid of their base, Progressive Jones Dec 2019 #24
"afraid of losing the easiest, most lucrative job they've ever had." TryLogic Dec 2019 #30
I'm not. Slugs don't have spines. The Velveteen Ocelot Dec 2019 #26
Frank Lutz and Steve Brannon LakeArenal Dec 2019 #27
Invertebrates just can't get there. calimary Dec 2019 #29
the party of trump, it's like the Invasion of the Body Snatchers spanone Dec 2019 #31
I'm amazed too vlyons Dec 2019 #32
I'm not. They've weeded out almost all of the moderates... Wounded Bear Dec 2019 #33
It makes me nervous captain queeg Dec 2019 #34
After that post-"election" dinner with... 3catwoman3 Dec 2019 #54
Down the road, who next do they toss into the pResidential ring ? magicarpet Dec 2019 #35
But that's what their party has been up to for decades FiveGoodMen Dec 2019 #36
"For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil" B Stieg Dec 2019 #37
Trump is not the man for Reps to fall on their sword for... LV487 Dec 2019 #38
Surprised / Not Surprised Beartracks Dec 2019 #40
Republican Members of Congress do have spines Bucky Dec 2019 #41
it's not what they say, it's what they do Demonaut Dec 2019 #42
I too am surprised that many of these supposed learned, professional people chose Capt. America Dec 2019 #43
Your faith in reason and integrity is touching. Harker Dec 2019 #44
Not only their votes in lockstep, but their Trumplike speeches were astounding wishstar Dec 2019 #45
I am astounded that you malaise Dec 2019 #46
I am not shocked at all. KentuckyWoman Dec 2019 #47
The sort of confidence that comes from knowing all the ducks are in a row. TheFourthMind Dec 2019 #48
K&R ck4829 Dec 2019 #50
We have an organised crime syndicate masquerading dewsgirl Dec 2019 #51
They needed all that hard bone and enamel for their fangs DFW Dec 2019 #52
I feel EXACTLY the same... whathehell Dec 2019 #53
I'm astounded that there are still Democrats who are hesitating. Nitram Dec 2019 #57
My thoughts exactly. nt LAS14 Dec 2019 #58
I'm not. flying_wahini Dec 2019 #60

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
10. Far from it. They don't fear for their jobs
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:00 PM
Dec 2019

If they did they would boot Trump.

They see impeachment not moving the polls. They see how utterly divided the country has become. They feel safe playing petty games, and they are right. Most have deep red districts, the vulnerable ones got the boot last year

DownriverDem

(6,226 posts)
16. They are afraid
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:09 AM
Dec 2019

of their voters and trump. If they piss off trump, he can get a trumpster to run against them. They have put their reelections before the country.

Golden Raisin

(4,605 posts)
55. Or the U.S.A.
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 10:52 AM
Dec 2019

They've got Trump in the Oval Office, McConnell iron-fisting in the Senate, Barr being rogue at "Justice" and a perilously shaky Supreme Court.

llmart

(15,533 posts)
15. That's the only thing that keeps me going these days.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:03 PM
Dec 2019

Knowing that even though he won't be convicted in the Senate, we here will be on the right side of history.

luvtheGWN

(1,336 posts)
56. If enough Senators vote to convict,
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 12:15 PM
Dec 2019

the Trump is out and therefore relatively powerless. So I'm suggesting that the reason they won't vote to convict is because there is enough scandal, dirty tricks and probably outright felony in their backgrounds and bank accounts to totally destroy both their reputations and their freedom.

LenaBaby61

(6,973 posts)
8. NOT shocked ...
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 09:58 PM
Dec 2019

Have you not been paying attention? They're also scared of him.

These assholes are the party of tRumputin.

He is them, they are Him.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,069 posts)
18. I disagree--they have been like this for years.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:31 AM
Dec 2019

That is how Trump got in office. They initiated a coup years ago. We just did not realize it because we believed in the strength of our democracy.

Trump represents them. They are Trump.

crickets

(25,952 posts)
12. I know. It's sad.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:00 PM
Dec 2019

Remember this when anyone starts talking about Senators telling them in private that they'd vote to convict if they had a secret ballot. That's a big lie, and a trap. Don't believe it.

llmart

(15,533 posts)
14. Even the ones who are leaving after this term couldn't do the right thing.
Wed Dec 18, 2019, 10:02 PM
Dec 2019

Probably have cushy lobbying jobs lined up anyway, so they can't alienate their buddies.

 

BuffaloJackalope

(818 posts)
17. They've alienated the majority of Americans, embraced the idea of oligarchy
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 10:21 AM
Dec 2019

to the extent that they can't maintain power without lying, disenfranchising millions of Americans, or cheating outright, and most outrageously - soliciting foreign govts, some hostile to the very concepts of freedom & liberty, to interfere in our elections.

ananda

(28,836 posts)
20. Two things.
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 06:18 PM
Dec 2019

They have a very small, rabid, ugly base to play to.

And many of them are compromised by either Russian money,
blackmail, or both.

Including Mitch McConnell, Devin Nunes, Lindsey Graham, and so many others.

kairos12

(12,843 posts)
21. They fear the Twitter. I don't you would have found many of these guys
Thu Dec 19, 2019, 06:24 PM
Dec 2019

on Omaha Beach. Maybe Pismo Beach though.

Progressive Jones

(6,011 posts)
24. I'm not surprised one bit. The cowards of the GOP are deathly afraid of their base,
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:36 AM
Dec 2019

and afraid of losing the easiest, most lucrative job they've ever had.

The entire GOP is a bunch of low quality Americans, especially their voters.


calimary

(81,125 posts)
29. Invertebrates just can't get there.
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:29 PM
Dec 2019

They’re just built that way.

Or maybe when trump came along, that’s how they paid tribute. They had to line up for spine-removal surgery.

A backbone-ectomy.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
32. I'm amazed too
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:39 PM
Dec 2019

How do they go home and face their children? They all know that Trump is guilty as charged, and probably worse. That he is vulgar, stupid, and incompetent. And yet, they go along with the program.

They are absolutely no different than all those good Germans, who wore Nazi pins on their lapels, and stood by silently as their Jewish neighbors were rounded up and trucked off. No different than the German generals, who silently went along with Hitler's disasterous invasion of Russia in winter.

I don't get it.

Wounded Bear

(58,604 posts)
33. I'm not. They've weeded out almost all of the moderates...
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:41 PM
Dec 2019

especially since the Tea Party bullshit.

Now, mostly just the fanatics left. Almost 3 dozen more 'retiring' this year, too, IIRC.

captain queeg

(10,103 posts)
34. It makes me nervous
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:42 PM
Dec 2019

It certainly appears that sticking with Trump is going to bite them in the ass and it will be the end of the GOP. Do they know something? Are they so sure of rigging the next election that they feel untouchable?

If Romney or someone stood up and voted with the Dems at this point they’d go down on history. I think those guys are concerned about their legacy. Maybe he’ll decide he doesn’t want to be remembered as a boot licker. Showing some spine and voting with the Dems wouldn’t change anything (if it’s just one guy) but it would make someone famous.

3catwoman3

(23,950 posts)
54. After that post-"election" dinner with...
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 10:41 AM
Dec 2019

...Trump, isn't he already remembered as a boot-licker (or would that be ass-kisser)?

magicarpet

(14,122 posts)
35. Down the road, who next do they toss into the pResidential ring ?
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:46 PM
Dec 2019

President Howling Monkey Drunken Gaetz,

President Jacket off, Jack off, Gym Jordan,

President Top Secret Cow Nunes,

President Pastor Collins.

FiveGoodMen

(20,018 posts)
36. But that's what their party has been up to for decades
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 12:46 PM
Dec 2019

Why be surprised now?

Going back to 1980, they reportedly KEPT American hostages from being released until Reagan's inauguration.

Traitors who deserve execution.

Every last one.

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
37. "For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil"
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 06:57 PM
Dec 2019

Swap out "money" for "power," and that pretty much characterizes all tRump's many minions.

 

LV487

(11 posts)
38. Trump is not the man for Reps to fall on their sword for...
Fri Dec 20, 2019, 07:19 PM
Dec 2019

Reagan, yes, Trump, no. Funny how so many Reps hated Trump when he was nominated.

Bucky

(53,947 posts)
41. Republican Members of Congress do have spines
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 12:40 AM
Dec 2019

They call them bone spurs, but they do have the courage of their conviction... that someone else should do the sacrificing to keep the country safe

Capt. America

(2,477 posts)
43. I too am surprised that many of these supposed learned, professional people chose
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 01:54 AM
Dec 2019

not to see the facts for what they are.
However, I realize that as evil as the Rethugs are, they are simply following the wishes of their worse constituencies.

Harker

(13,985 posts)
44. Your faith in reason and integrity is touching.
Sat Dec 21, 2019, 12:37 PM
Dec 2019

Now that they've clearly demonstrated their fascist, monolithic nature, I doubt there will be many future surprises left for you.

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
45. Not only their votes in lockstep, but their Trumplike speeches were astounding
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:48 AM
Dec 2019

So many of them went way beyond mere voting to protect him, but morphed into nasty dishonest mini- Trump clones, similar to the disgusting performances by Kavanaugh and Lindsay Graham in the Kavanaugh hearings. The eagerness to stoop so low to score points with the cult leader and their followers is deplorable.

KentuckyWoman

(6,679 posts)
47. I am not shocked at all.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:51 AM
Dec 2019

I maintain anyone who still wears the R label stopped giving a shit about anyone but themselves a long time ago.

TheFourthMind

(343 posts)
48. The sort of confidence that comes from knowing all the ducks are in a row.
Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:49 PM
Dec 2019

Headlines are already prepping the public for a Trump win in 2020.

dewsgirl

(14,961 posts)
51. We have an organised crime syndicate masquerading
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:15 AM
Dec 2019

as a government. I used to think they were only being blackmailed, I have no doubt now, they are likely being threatened. I'm not going to pretend I understand what happened with Mueller, I do know he didnt do all he did to just end up providing cover for Trump. Trump regime=Russian mafia.

DFW

(54,302 posts)
52. They needed all that hard bone and enamel for their fangs
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:17 AM
Dec 2019

There wasn't enough left over for a spine.

whathehell

(29,034 posts)
53. I feel EXACTLY the same...
Mon Dec 23, 2019, 07:27 AM
Dec 2019

At age 70, I've lived through a long swath of American history, and I've never seen ANYTHING like this...It's actually frightening.

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