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Sat Dec 14, 2019, 02:33 PM

No luck here with google (or it's me)

Can the Democrats impeach BUT not send it to the senate until they want too? (they choose the time for senate trial)

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Reply No luck here with google (or it's me) (Original post)
bluestarone Dec 2019 OP
intrepidity Dec 2019 #1
Faux pas Dec 2019 #2
intrepidity Dec 2019 #3
lunatica Dec 2019 #4
Faux pas Dec 2019 #9
UniteFightBack Dec 2019 #5
marble falls Dec 2019 #6
bluestarone Dec 2019 #7
Politicub Dec 2019 #8
pecosbob Dec 2019 #10

Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 02:37 PM

1. Yes nt

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Response to intrepidity (Reply #1)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 02:53 PM

2. Please please please

let them just keep hanging it over his empty head!

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Response to Faux pas (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 02:56 PM

3. I won't be able to bear it otherwise

We must hold strong on this IMHO.

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Response to Faux pas (Reply #2)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:05 PM

4. The SCOTUS decision to put the release of his taxes off until next June or July

will be hanging over his head the entire time. He was hoping the Supreme Court would end it forever. Thatís important because nothing has made him squirm more than the demand for his taxes to be released to the House.

As it stands now, he will have his taxes AND the fact heís been impeached as major issues going into his re-election bid. Both are big issues. The Senate decision not to convict him will be of no use to him. He will forever be impeached. In his life and after death. His children will have that onus attached to their name as a fixture. And with a little luck the Trump name will be anathema to them, never to enrich his offspring again.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #4)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 09:16 AM

9. That works for me!

Thank you for the insight

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:14 PM

5. They need to hold these articles and let the criminal keep committing acts. nt

 

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:25 PM

6. Sure they can. And they can add/amend the charges, and even call up a second impeachment.

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:27 PM

7. Thanks to all!!

Now i know for sure!

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sat Dec 14, 2019, 03:30 PM

8. After the president is impeached, the deed has been done.

I haven't seen anywhere in the constitution that says the senate needs to wait on "receiving" the articles of impeachment. The articles will come to exist once they are affirmed by the majority of the house because the person in question has become impeached. Here's what the constitution says about impeachment:


Article I, Section 2, Clause 5 provides:
The House of Representatives ... shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Article I, Section 3, Clauses 6 and 7 provide:
The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two-thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States; but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

Article II, Section 2 provides:
[The President] ... shall have power to grant reprieves and pardons for offenses against the United States, except in cases of impeachment.

Article II, Section 4 provides:
The President, Vice President and all civil Officers of the United States, shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors.

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_in_the_United_States

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Response to bluestarone (Original post)

Sun Dec 15, 2019, 10:06 AM

10. Theoretically all they would have to do is delay the vote indefinitely

I think once they've made the vote official, there's nothing in the rules to stop Repubs from proceeding.

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