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shockey80

(4,379 posts)
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:56 PM Dec 2019

When dealing with the liars, it looks like the Democrats have finally taken the gloves off.

Pelosi shut up a liar today. Biden called a liar a dam liar and shut him it. It's about time, I am so happy to see this happen. When you get right down to it, we have been at war with the liars of our country.

It is time for all Democrats to start calling the liars, liars.

I was also very happy to read the article by Rick Wilson. He wrote about what I have been saying for a long time and the news media has not. Trump and his disciples from hell are all traitors. That is not an opinion, It is a fact.

It is time for the Democrats, the news media to get serious and very tough. It is time for people like us, the patriots of this country to call the liars we know liars, the Trump voters. Our Republic is on the line. The liars are the scoundrels of our country. They have turned against the constitution and the rule of law. The Senate trial will decide the future of our country. Will the scoundrels have their way or will the Patriots rise up and defend their country.

The Republicans are playing politics with the Senate trial. They watch the polls on impeachment, they see the Liars, their base, are sticking with Trump. They believe protecting Trump is good for them politically. They are wrong. Playing politics in a trial, in order to acquit a corrupt lunatic is fatal.

If Trump is acquitted they will be unleashing a madman upon American. A madman no longer bound by the constitution or the rule of law. Trump will wreck our country. Do the Republicans actually believe they can keep him under control once they make him a king. They can't keep him under control now.

If not convicted, Trump will know what he said will be true."I can do whatever I want" Everyone better start getting very serious before it's to late.

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When dealing with the liars, it looks like the Democrats have finally taken the gloves off. (Original Post) shockey80 Dec 2019 OP
Well said malaise Dec 2019 #1
K and R..Time to show the liars for what they are: liars. Stuart G Dec 2019 #2
He'll see his "exoneration" as an excuse to pull out all the stops & engage in more egregious crime NBachers Dec 2019 #3
I sometimes wonder how the hell we got to this point. triron Dec 2019 #4
how? ignoring 1500 radio stations, led by the greatest liar of all for 30 years and it continues certainot Dec 2019 #25
Trump WILL be acquitted. maxsolomon Dec 2019 #5
He can and will do a lot worse. shockey80 Dec 2019 #8
Not ready to go there yet. maxsolomon Dec 2019 #10
He will start arresting Democratic elected officials. Mr.Bill Dec 2019 #15
But what if we pick up the Senate? Yes, he/Russia wnylib Dec 2019 #21
If Dems take the Senate, Trump will also be gone. maxsolomon Dec 2019 #38
Of course. Which is why we need to wnylib Dec 2019 #42
waiting for an election is ridiculous. protests are needed NOW so the senate will see certainot Dec 2019 #29
Take a Hint from the People of France McKim Dec 2019 #36
all progressive groups need to get together before the trial so GOP gets the message that certainot Dec 2019 #39
Completely Agree mdbl Dec 2019 #51
Yep, we know that. BUT, formal article of IMPEACHMENT would have been filed against him - a mar iluvtennis Dec 2019 #24
*That* will drive him actually bonkers IMHO Proud Liberal Dem Dec 2019 #41
it'll be so sweet that there isn't a darn thing he can do to appeal/overturn articles of impeachment iluvtennis Dec 2019 #44
that is not certain. democrats can sit on their asses or we can start protesting regularly certainot Dec 2019 #27
It seems advertisers don't give a shit mdbl Dec 2019 #52
AI allows stoprush x 100. stoprush was a few people who chased off a lot of advertisers. certainot Dec 2019 #53
Here's to hoping you are right mdbl Dec 2019 #54
Then those GOP Senators will be held accountable rockfordfile Dec 2019 #46
This is just the beginning. Zoonart Dec 2019 #6
Answer to above question...... dawnie51 Dec 2019 #7
it's about fucking time Skittles Dec 2019 #9
K&R. n/t livetohike Dec 2019 #11
"Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" - book by a great Democrat. n/t TygrBright Dec 2019 #12
++ yes lunasun Dec 2019 #31
Pick a side. America. Or Trump. bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #13
Its the only way to deal with thugs. nt yaesu Dec 2019 #14
K&R! gademocrat7 Dec 2019 #16
THERE IS NO EQUIVALENCE! This is the GOP only. RainCaster Dec 2019 #17
i could not agree more Ferrets are Cool Dec 2019 #18
Would you buy a used conspiracy theory from these dolts? nt hvn_nbr_2 Dec 2019 #19
From what I saw on CNN, there's one Democrat in congress who is voting against the impeachment. C Moon Dec 2019 #20
My new mantra Lulu KC Dec 2019 #22
Spot on Joinfortmill Dec 2019 #23
K&R MustLoveBeagles Dec 2019 #26
Will I be banned SCVDem Dec 2019 #28
WWNS? klook Dec 2019 #40
It's way past time imo but I appreciate both Pelosi & Biden today and all who are resisting the lies lunasun Dec 2019 #30
Damned straight! Very proud of us Dems. gulliver Dec 2019 #32
eggscllent . lies and the lying liars . AllaN01Bear Dec 2019 #33
Who Tell Them SCVDem Dec 2019 #34
Why the hell does Tucker Carlson still have a job here? mountain grammy Dec 2019 #35
+++++++++++ HAB911 Dec 2019 #37
And foreign leaders (France in particular) called out rump's lies too, right to his face too! NT SWBTATTReg Dec 2019 #43
Enter Chuck Todd just now... luvallpeeps Dec 2019 #45
the OLD idiot in iowa was not a lier, he just had incorrect beliefs. he was lied to by fux gnewz & pansypoo53219 Dec 2019 #47
The Dem-pire strikes back. rocktivity Dec 2019 #48
Well said! Nt Prof.Higgins Dec 2019 #49
Liars depend on their victims The Wizard Dec 2019 #50
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
25. how? ignoring 1500 radio stations, led by the greatest liar of all for 30 years and it continues
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:05 PM
Dec 2019

unchallenged today

liimbaaugh explained again today, yelling with great certitude, repeating again for the thousandth time in months that it was actually the democrats that were using the russians, it's all a hoax, the democrats are just pissed trump has been so successful, they want to stop him because he's not letting us get away with the global warming hoax, obama did nothing to stop russiaan aggression, etc..... and attacking pelosi and shiff again with a constant stream of verbal diarhea - and for 30 years democratic and progressive leadership have systematically ignored it all

and unless fiona hill is an idiot and or liar then those 1500 radio stations are working for putin, and they probably figured out years ago how to use limbaugh, probably going back to 2008 using him to push russia-friendly palin onto mccain.

maxsolomon

(33,232 posts)
5. Trump WILL be acquitted.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:20 PM
Dec 2019

Prepare for that.

He won't be able to do much worse than he's doing now, unless a Supreme retires or passes on.

 

shockey80

(4,379 posts)
8. He can and will do a lot worse.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:27 PM
Dec 2019

He will no longer be bound by the constitution. Impeachment becomes meaningless. He has control of the DOJ. A base who cheers on all his crimes. A republican party who ignores his crimes' It will get a lot worse. He will destroy all of his enemies and gain more power.

He will rig the 2020 election. He will be able to do whatever he wants.

maxsolomon

(33,232 posts)
10. Not ready to go there yet.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:36 PM
Dec 2019

But I have those concerns as well.

He'll be enraged by Impeachment; his ego cannot handle any reproach.

wnylib

(21,296 posts)
21. But what if we pick up the Senate? Yes, he/Russia
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 10:21 PM
Dec 2019

will try to rig elections, but we can push back on that.

If we get the Senate, we can impeach and convict. There certainly isn't any shortage of crimes to charge him with.

wnylib

(21,296 posts)
42. Of course. Which is why we need to
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 02:00 PM
Dec 2019

especially guard the polls and monitor ads and social media where Senate races are up for grabs. Plus donate time and/or money to those Senate races.

The criminal party will target those races for anything and everything they think they can get away with.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
29. waiting for an election is ridiculous. protests are needed NOW so the senate will see
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:19 PM
Dec 2019

their coming political destruction if tthey ignore the evidence

McKim

(2,412 posts)
36. Take a Hint from the People of France
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:09 PM
Dec 2019

We should take a hint from the people of France and hit the streets massively. Where is the leadership for this?

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
39. all progressive groups need to get together before the trial so GOP gets the message that
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:37 PM
Dec 2019

there are a lot more of us than the dittohead teabaggers trump and limbaugh can throw at them, and we're a lot more pissed off

protests at the radio stations and the uni and pro sports steams that support them would get right to the heart of the problem - where most of their alternative reality comes from

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
51. Completely Agree
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 07:36 AM
Dec 2019

Everyone should be on facebook or twitter bending the ear of anyone supporting a Constitutional criminal like Trump. They will certainly be sorry if they let this go any further.

iluvtennis

(19,819 posts)
24. Yep, we know that. BUT, formal article of IMPEACHMENT would have been filed against him - a mar
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 10:46 PM
Dec 2019

on his "legacy".

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,387 posts)
41. *That* will drive him actually bonkers IMHO
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:48 PM
Dec 2019

He's never really ever been reprimanded for pretty much anything he's done. It will be probably one of the very rare instances in his wretched life that he will have been held accountable for *anything*. Even if he is acquitted (which he probably will be), he won't be able to appeal, overturn, etc. his Impeachment no matter how much he tweets, screams, throws a tantrum, etc.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
27. that is not certain. democrats can sit on their asses or we can start protesting regularly
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:16 PM
Dec 2019

including the 87 universities that support 260 putin/limbaugh radio stations while they attack pelosi and shiff and call for them to be called as witnesses, along with the bidens.

we can just sit back and repeat the putin talking points and hope we can beat all the dirty tricks and trolling and election theft with GOTV and fundraising or democrats can go on offense and destroy putin/trumps best and only unchallenged weapon. when they see rw radio and limbaugh finally challenged and about to be destroyed by the advertising industry that realizes it finally has to start asking clients if they actually want to keep helping putin and the teabagger dittoheads he's been using for at least 10 years - they will be forced or enabled to dump trump

i disagree

mdbl

(4,973 posts)
52. It seems advertisers don't give a shit
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 07:43 AM
Dec 2019

I guess they figure they will make money on both sides of every issue since the country looks so divided. It's hard to target companies that have consolidated 20 brands under one parent company. It's to the point now where people have no competitors to go to. Getting the money out of politics is the only answer left to this. It's also the reason Fux nooz can hand pick their truth on a daily basis. I saw the Limbaugh destruction coming 25 years ago. I just didn't see the total ease by which so many people were swayed by a con-man. Trump has been the apex of 30 years of garbage on right-wing radio and Fux nooz. All that being said, I will still support efforts to drain the sales money of any company supporting right-wing charlatans.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
53. AI allows stoprush x 100. stoprush was a few people who chased off a lot of advertisers.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 10:07 AM
Dec 2019

a lot of those radio stations are just getting by, stuck with assholes like lmbaugh and their loyal listeners, and a big part of their income comes from local bussiness trying to reach local ears and many are trying to save money by allowing hte ad cos to bundle them together and move them around. many are not very happy to be on political rw radio when asked. that support is very soft and i think it sill take very little activism to get the ad industry to force a lot of these big stations to change programming - they want those ears.

i think imbaugh has been successful merely because he's ignored by those he attacks much of his audience hears a guy yelling lies with total certitude and they never see it challenged. that crap gets repeated by other hosts and by idiot ignorant dittoheads to huge secondary and tertiary audiences

those secondary audiences are ripe for a whack on the head when they start seeing activism aimed at RW radio, blaming it for trump, and media starts showing that russsia has been using it for 10 years or more.

Zoonart

(11,826 posts)
6. This is just the beginning.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:21 PM
Dec 2019

The thugs intend to put the Democrats in trial in the Senate, calling both Bidens, the whistle blower and Adam Schiff to stand in the dock.

dawnie51

(959 posts)
7. Answer to above question......
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:21 PM
Dec 2019

Faux News. We enabled a Russian loving huckster named Murdock to usurp our airwaves. It only took 25 years.

bucolic_frolic

(43,008 posts)
13. Pick a side. America. Or Trump.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 09:02 PM
Dec 2019

Been saying it since i saw it on Twitter. Tell a MAGAt. Show him how his rights are gone if Trump is King.

RainCaster

(10,806 posts)
17. THERE IS NO EQUIVALENCE! This is the GOP only.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 09:21 PM
Dec 2019

Any media outlet who tries to play that bullshit equivalency scam must be called out.

Each and every time.

Until they :

Issue retractions for past equivalents

Promise to never pull that again.

C Moon

(12,207 posts)
20. From what I saw on CNN, there's one Democrat in congress who is voting against the impeachment.
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 09:54 PM
Dec 2019

Huh?
He must be owned by Putin, as well.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
28. Will I be banned
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:17 PM
Dec 2019

For quoting a Nevada wannabe espousing "second amendment remedies"?

We live in complicated times.

(Please let me know if this is too far and I will delete it. I don't need to be deleted)

klook

(12,151 posts)
40. WWNS?
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:44 PM
Dec 2019

Last edited Fri Dec 6, 2019, 04:32 PM - Edit history (1)

What would Nancy say?

I understand the emotion, but here’s my 2 cents’ worth: Being consumed by hatred is toxic for the person doing the hating. And even hinting at something that’s a capital crime — even though many of us have felt this way at times — is, let’s just say, not putting our best foot forward.

Edited to add:
As a great Democrat once said, “We’re better than that.”

We need to be working on practical (and lawful!) ways to neutralize the menace currently afflicting us.

It’s tough for us at the moment, and these are dark days in many ways. But there is opportunity amid these tribulations. Let’s stay focused on the fight ahead.

lunasun

(21,646 posts)
30. It's way past time imo but I appreciate both Pelosi & Biden today and all who are resisting the lies
Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:40 PM
Dec 2019

Shut down the liars . It’s not enough to just ignore or fluff off
If something is not true.... it not true .

luvallpeeps

(935 posts)
45. Enter Chuck Todd just now...
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 06:14 PM
Dec 2019

Saying the American political discourse is angrier and lower because of trump. Insinuating that since dems are getting gutsy and tough that they're getting into the mud with him. Of course, that's my wording, but that's the gist of it. He gets on my last nerve with this shit. God forbid Chuck, someone show a little passion and backbone. I can see by his smirkface that he knows exactly what he's saying is bullshit. I only watched his intro. That was enough. Jerk.

pansypoo53219

(20,948 posts)
47. the OLD idiot in iowa was not a lier, he just had incorrect beliefs. he was lied to by fux gnewz &
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 07:26 PM
Dec 2019

hate radio.he is a fux gnewz borg member.

rocktivity

(44,571 posts)
48. The Dem-pire strikes back.
Fri Dec 6, 2019, 11:01 PM
Dec 2019

All they're doing is striking at us, calling us libtards when we do stroke back, and snowflakes when we don't. We don't win them over either day, I vote for striking back!


rocktivity

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