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Thu Dec 5, 2019, 06:56 PM

When dealing with the liars, it looks like the Democrats have finally taken the gloves off.

Pelosi shut up a liar today. Biden called a liar a dam liar and shut him it. It's about time, I am so happy to see this happen. When you get right down to it, we have been at war with the liars of our country.

It is time for all Democrats to start calling the liars, liars.

I was also very happy to read the article by Rick Wilson. He wrote about what I have been saying for a long time and the news media has not. Trump and his disciples from hell are all traitors. That is not an opinion, It is a fact.

It is time for the Democrats, the news media to get serious and very tough. It is time for people like us, the patriots of this country to call the liars we know liars, the Trump voters. Our Republic is on the line. The liars are the scoundrels of our country. They have turned against the constitution and the rule of law. The Senate trial will decide the future of our country. Will the scoundrels have their way or will the Patriots rise up and defend their country.

The Republicans are playing politics with the Senate trial. They watch the polls on impeachment, they see the Liars, their base, are sticking with Trump. They believe protecting Trump is good for them politically. They are wrong. Playing politics in a trial, in order to acquit a corrupt lunatic is fatal.

If Trump is acquitted they will be unleashing a madman upon American. A madman no longer bound by the constitution or the rule of law. Trump will wreck our country. Do the Republicans actually believe they can keep him under control once they make him a king. They can't keep him under control now.

If not convicted, Trump will know what he said will be true."I can do whatever I want" Everyone better start getting very serious before it's to late.

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Reply When dealing with the liars, it looks like the Democrats have finally taken the gloves off. (Original post)
shockey80 Dec 5 OP
malaise Dec 5 #1
Stuart G Dec 5 #2
NBachers Dec 5 #3
triron Dec 5 #4
certainot Dec 5 #25
maxsolomon Dec 5 #5
shockey80 Dec 5 #8
maxsolomon Dec 5 #10
Mr.Bill Dec 5 #15
wnylib Dec 5 #21
maxsolomon Dec 6 #38
wnylib Dec 6 #42
certainot Dec 5 #29
McKim Dec 6 #36
certainot Dec 6 #39
mdbl Dec 9 #51
iluvtennis Dec 5 #24
Proud Liberal Dem Dec 6 #41
iluvtennis Dec 6 #44
certainot Dec 5 #27
mdbl Dec 9 #52
certainot Dec 9 #53
mdbl Dec 9 #54
rockfordfile Dec 6 #46
Zoonart Dec 5 #6
dawnie51 Dec 5 #7
Skittles Dec 5 #9
livetohike Dec 5 #11
TygrBright Dec 5 #12
lunasun Dec 5 #31
bucolic_frolic Dec 5 #13
yaesu Dec 5 #14
gademocrat7 Dec 5 #16
RainCaster Dec 5 #17
Ferrets are Cool Dec 5 #18
hvn_nbr_2 Dec 5 #19
C Moon Dec 5 #20
Lulu KC Dec 5 #22
Joinfortmill Dec 5 #23
MustLoveBeagles Dec 5 #26
SCVDem Dec 5 #28
klook Dec 6 #40
lunasun Dec 5 #30
gulliver Dec 5 #32
AllaN01Bear Dec 5 #33
SCVDem Dec 5 #34
mountain grammy Dec 6 #35
HAB911 Dec 6 #37
SWBTATTReg Dec 6 #43
luvallpeeps Dec 6 #45
pansypoo53219 Dec 6 #47
rocktivity Dec 6 #48
Prof.Higgins Dec 6 #49
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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 06:57 PM

1. Well said

Get thee to the greatest page

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:01 PM

2. K and R..Time to show the liars for what they are: liars.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:12 PM

3. He'll see his "exoneration" as an excuse to pull out all the stops & engage in more egregious crime

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:16 PM

4. I sometimes wonder how the hell we got to this point.

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Response to triron (Reply #4)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 10:05 PM

25. how? ignoring 1500 radio stations, led by the greatest liar of all for 30 years and it continues

unchallenged today

liimbaaugh explained again today, yelling with great certitude, repeating again for the thousandth time in months that it was actually the democrats that were using the russians, it's all a hoax, the democrats are just pissed trump has been so successful, they want to stop him because he's not letting us get away with the global warming hoax, obama did nothing to stop russiaan aggression, etc..... and attacking pelosi and shiff again with a constant stream of verbal diarhea - and for 30 years democratic and progressive leadership have systematically ignored it all

and unless fiona hill is an idiot and or liar then those 1500 radio stations are working for putin, and they probably figured out years ago how to use limbaugh, probably going back to 2008 using him to push russia-friendly palin onto mccain.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:20 PM

5. Trump WILL be acquitted.

Prepare for that.

He won't be able to do much worse than he's doing now, unless a Supreme retires or passes on.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:27 PM

8. He can and will do a lot worse.

He will no longer be bound by the constitution. Impeachment becomes meaningless. He has control of the DOJ. A base who cheers on all his crimes. A republican party who ignores his crimes' It will get a lot worse. He will destroy all of his enemies and gain more power.

He will rig the 2020 election. He will be able to do whatever he wants.

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Response to shockey80 (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:36 PM

10. Not ready to go there yet.

But I have those concerns as well.

He'll be enraged by Impeachment; his ego cannot handle any reproach.

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Response to shockey80 (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:03 PM

15. He will start arresting Democratic elected officials.

What dictator doesn't jail the opposition?

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Response to shockey80 (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 09:21 PM

21. But what if we pick up the Senate? Yes, he/Russia

will try to rig elections, but we can push back on that.

If we get the Senate, we can impeach and convict. There certainly isn't any shortage of crimes to charge him with.

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Response to wnylib (Reply #21)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 12:35 PM

38. If Dems take the Senate, Trump will also be gone.

Math.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #38)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 01:00 PM

42. Of course. Which is why we need to

especially guard the polls and monitor ads and social media where Senate races are up for grabs. Plus donate time and/or money to those Senate races.

The criminal party will target those races for anything and everything they think they can get away with.

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Response to shockey80 (Reply #8)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 10:19 PM

29. waiting for an election is ridiculous. protests are needed NOW so the senate will see

their coming political destruction if tthey ignore the evidence

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Response to certainot (Reply #29)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 12:09 PM

36. Take a Hint from the People of France

We should take a hint from the people of France and hit the streets massively. Where is the leadership for this?

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Response to McKim (Reply #36)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 12:37 PM

39. all progressive groups need to get together before the trial so GOP gets the message that

there are a lot more of us than the dittohead teabaggers trump and limbaugh can throw at them, and we're a lot more pissed off

protests at the radio stations and the uni and pro sports steams that support them would get right to the heart of the problem - where most of their alternative reality comes from

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Response to certainot (Reply #29)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:36 AM

51. Completely Agree

Everyone should be on facebook or twitter bending the ear of anyone supporting a Constitutional criminal like Trump. They will certainly be sorry if they let this go any further.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 09:46 PM

24. Yep, we know that. BUT, formal article of IMPEACHMENT would have been filed against him - a mar

on his "legacy".

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Response to iluvtennis (Reply #24)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 12:48 PM

41. *That* will drive him actually bonkers IMHO

He's never really ever been reprimanded for pretty much anything he's done. It will be probably one of the very rare instances in his wretched life that he will have been held accountable for *anything*. Even if he is acquitted (which he probably will be), he won't be able to appeal, overturn, etc. his Impeachment no matter how much he tweets, screams, throws a tantrum, etc.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #41)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 02:30 PM

44. it'll be so sweet that there isn't a darn thing he can do to appeal/overturn articles of impeachment

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #5)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 10:16 PM

27. that is not certain. democrats can sit on their asses or we can start protesting regularly

including the 87 universities that support 260 putin/limbaugh radio stations while they attack pelosi and shiff and call for them to be called as witnesses, along with the bidens.

we can just sit back and repeat the putin talking points and hope we can beat all the dirty tricks and trolling and election theft with GOTV and fundraising or democrats can go on offense and destroy putin/trumps best and only unchallenged weapon. when they see rw radio and limbaugh finally challenged and about to be destroyed by the advertising industry that realizes it finally has to start asking clients if they actually want to keep helping putin and the teabagger dittoheads he's been using for at least 10 years - they will be forced or enabled to dump trump

i disagree

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Response to certainot (Reply #27)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 06:43 AM

52. It seems advertisers don't give a shit

I guess they figure they will make money on both sides of every issue since the country looks so divided. It's hard to target companies that have consolidated 20 brands under one parent company. It's to the point now where people have no competitors to go to. Getting the money out of politics is the only answer left to this. It's also the reason Fux nooz can hand pick their truth on a daily basis. I saw the Limbaugh destruction coming 25 years ago. I just didn't see the total ease by which so many people were swayed by a con-man. Trump has been the apex of 30 years of garbage on right-wing radio and Fux nooz. All that being said, I will still support efforts to drain the sales money of any company supporting right-wing charlatans.

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Response to mdbl (Reply #52)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 09:07 AM

53. AI allows stoprush x 100. stoprush was a few people who chased off a lot of advertisers.

a lot of those radio stations are just getting by, stuck with assholes like lmbaugh and their loyal listeners, and a big part of their income comes from local bussiness trying to reach local ears and many are trying to save money by allowing hte ad cos to bundle them together and move them around. many are not very happy to be on political rw radio when asked. that support is very soft and i think it sill take very little activism to get the ad industry to force a lot of these big stations to change programming - they want those ears.

i think imbaugh has been successful merely because he's ignored by those he attacks much of his audience hears a guy yelling lies with total certitude and they never see it challenged. that crap gets repeated by other hosts and by idiot ignorant dittoheads to huge secondary and tertiary audiences

those secondary audiences are ripe for a whack on the head when they start seeing activism aimed at RW radio, blaming it for trump, and media starts showing that russsia has been using it for 10 years or more.

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Response to certainot (Reply #53)

Mon Dec 9, 2019, 09:13 AM

54. Here's to hoping you are right

If you are, I will gladly put my well-earned cynicism aside.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #5)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 05:25 PM

46. Then those GOP Senators will be held accountable

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:21 PM

6. This is just the beginning.

The thugs intend to put the Democrats in trial in the Senate, calling both Bidens, the whistle blower and Adam Schiff to stand in the dock.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:21 PM

7. Answer to above question......

Faux News. We enabled a Russian loving huckster named Murdock to usurp our airwaves. It only took 25 years.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:33 PM

9. it's about fucking time

ENOUGH already

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:37 PM

11. K&R. n/t

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:38 PM

12. "Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them" - book by a great Democrat. n/t

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Response to TygrBright (Reply #12)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 10:42 PM

31. ++ yes

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:02 PM

13. Pick a side. America. Or Trump.

Been saying it since i saw it on Twitter. Tell a MAGAt. Show him how his rights are gone if Trump is King.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:03 PM

14. Its the only way to deal with thugs. nt

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:11 PM

16. K&R!

Trump and the rethugs are traitors.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:21 PM

17. THERE IS NO EQUIVALENCE! This is the GOP only.

Any media outlet who tries to play that bullshit equivalency scam must be called out.

Each and every time.

Until they :

Issue retractions for past equivalents

Promise to never pull that again.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:38 PM

18. i could not agree more

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:40 PM

19. Would you buy a used conspiracy theory from these dolts? nt

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:54 PM

20. From what I saw on CNN, there's one Democrat in congress who is voting against the impeachment.

Huh?
He must be owned by Putin, as well.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 09:36 PM

22. My new mantra

"Don't mess with me."
I want a bumpersticker.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 09:41 PM

23. Spot on

Thank you.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 10:09 PM

26. K&R

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 10:17 PM

28. Will I be banned

For quoting a Nevada wannabe espousing "second amendment remedies"?

We live in complicated times.

(Please let me know if this is too far and I will delete it. I don't need to be deleted)

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Response to SCVDem (Reply #28)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 12:44 PM

40. WWNS?

Last edited Fri Dec 6, 2019, 03:32 PM - Edit history (1)

What would Nancy say?

I understand the emotion, but hereís my 2 centsí worth: Being consumed by hatred is toxic for the person doing the hating. And even hinting at something thatís a capital crime ó even though many of us have felt this way at times ó is, letís just say, not putting our best foot forward.

Edited to add:
As a great Democrat once said, ďWeíre better than that.Ē

We need to be working on practical (and lawful!) ways to neutralize the menace currently afflicting us.

Itís tough for us at the moment, and these are dark days in many ways. But there is opportunity amid these tribulations. Letís stay focused on the fight ahead.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 10:40 PM

30. It's way past time imo but I appreciate both Pelosi & Biden today and all who are resisting the lies

Shut down the liars . Itís not enough to just ignore or fluff off
If something is not true.... it not true .

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 10:44 PM

32. Damned straight! Very proud of us Dems.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 10:50 PM

33. eggscllent . lies and the lying liars .

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #33)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 11:43 PM

34. Who Tell Them

Al Franken D Screwed!

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 10:30 AM

35. Why the hell does Tucker Carlson still have a job here?

https://t.co/XLOf8DHg4L?amp=1

Check out this clip. Michael Blake is the best.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 12:30 PM

37. +++++++++++

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 02:24 PM

43. And foreign leaders (France in particular) called out rump's lies too, right to his face too! NT

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 05:14 PM

45. Enter Chuck Todd just now...

Saying the American political discourse is angrier and lower because of trump. Insinuating that since dems are getting gutsy and tough that they're getting into the mud with him. Of course, that's my wording, but that's the gist of it. He gets on my last nerve with this shit. God forbid Chuck, someone show a little passion and backbone. I can see by his smirkface that he knows exactly what he's saying is bullshit. I only watched his intro. That was enough. Jerk.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 06:26 PM

47. the OLD idiot in iowa was not a lier, he just had incorrect beliefs. he was lied to by fux gnewz &

hate radio.he is a fux gnewz borg member.

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 10:01 PM

48. The Dem-pire strikes back.

All they're doing is striking at us, calling us libtards when we do stroke back, and snowflakes when we don't. We don't win them over either day, I vote for striking back!


rocktivity

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Fri Dec 6, 2019, 10:57 PM

49. Well said! Nt

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Response to shockey80 (Original post)

Sun Dec 8, 2019, 10:41 PM

50. Liars depend on their victims

to be honest. What really screws them up is when you lie to them.

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