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Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:11 PM

What would be your articles of impeachment?

In my opinion, the list of articles of impeachment should be long and thorough. there are dozens of high crimes and serious offenses. I would be disappointed if the scope is narrow.

Many of us have spent countless hours reading articles, watching hearings. We can't keep track of all the illegal activity that Trump engaged in.

So if you were going to write up a list of articles of impeachment, what would be on it?

To keep this organized, please list ONLY ONE OFFENSE PER REPLY.

Please put the name in subject and a brief description in the message text, describing the offense and some of the basic circumstances around it. Then people can reply/discuss each offense and whether or not it really deserves to be an article of impeachment. it would be great to include links and references to back up your reasoning.

before you add a new one, please look over the list and make sure you are not duplicating.

and please resist attempts to put sarcastic things in there like "just being an asshole".

when activity/discussion seems to level off, I will compile it into a single list. it could be the DU Articles of Impeachment.

It will be interesting to see what we come up with collectively.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:14 PM

1. Emoluments violations

Trump has hidden his financial status so we do not know how he is profiting from the presidency.

Republicans claim to be strict adherents to the Constitution. There is a clause describing Trump's corruption.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:15 PM

2. Extortion: Holding Congressionally designated funds to pressure Ukraine

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Response to garybeck (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:22 PM

5. Emoluments..........

The SOB lines his pockets every time he goes golfing:
R&B for the Secret Service
Cart rental for the SS to follow his fat ass through all 18 holes
Food for him and his staff at HIS place
Room & board for all of his staff
Owning the hotel in DC where foreign emissaries sign up to stay to kiss up to his fat ass

Jimmy Carter sold his peanut farm to avoid any hint of "conflict of interest."

THIS SOB -

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:17 PM

3. Lying to Mueller

Former Trump deputy campaign chairman Rick Gates testified that Trump and Stone had talked about information that was coming that could help the campaign in mid-2016, at a time when Stone was attempting to get secret details about stolen Democratic documents WikiLeaks had.

Former Trump campaign chairman Paul Manafort also apparently told the Mueller grand jury what Trump's approach to WikiLeaks had been in 2016, according to the Mueller report.
But Trump told Mueller in his written statements he didn't recall discussing WikiLeaks with Stone.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/18/politics/house-investigating-trump-lying-to-mueller/index.html

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:20 PM

4. Obstruction of Justice

Preventing any and all departments and individuals from providing any documents or testimony as required by Congress.

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Response to leftieNanner (Reply #4)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:25 PM

6. i think there are multiple cases of this and I would make each one a separate offense.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:27 PM

7. Witness intimidation: Marie Yovanovitch

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:39 PM

8. unfitness for office, and a criminal cover up of same.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:40 PM

9. Obstruction of Justice.

Start with FBI guy, Mueller, etc,. etc, etc.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:42 PM

10. Bribery. Trying to shake down another country to help him cheat in 2020

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:45 PM

11. Conspiracy against the United States (ratfucking 2016)

18 U.S.C. 371

If two or more persons conspire either to commit any offense against the United States, or to defraud the United States, or any agency thereof in any manner or for any purpose, and one or more of such persons do any act to effect the object of the conspiracy, each shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than five years, or both.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:49 PM

14. I can definitely see the fraud.

I know it's a cliche, but he should have his picture next to the word "fraud" in the dictionary. He is so thoroughly a fraud that I don't think one could extract anything real from him at all. Related to that is all the lying he does. I've known some compulsive liars, but I've never seen anyone come close to matching Donald Trump. So I agree with the conspiracy charge and the other charge of general unfitness for office as well.

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Response to NightWatcher (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:41 PM

17. ok but what is the act of conspiracy more specifically?

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:46 PM

12. Conspiracy against the United States (attempted ratfucking 2020)

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:57 PM

13. Treason - acting as a foreign agent while in office.

I can't believe this hasn't been posted yet

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Response to BuffaloJackalope (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:41 PM

18. more specifically?

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:02 PM

15. Treason -- giving aid and comfort to our #1 geopolitical enemy

All roads lead to Putin, so said Speaker Pelosi to Trump--to his face!

Every official act Trump takes is to benefit Russia at the expense of our national interest. Trump is acting as if he's trying to overthrow our country.

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Response to garybeck (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:06 PM

16. Bribery

Trump's administration casually admitted there was a Quid Pro Quo / bribe, as if there was nothing wrong with it.

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