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Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:04 PM

Lindsey discusses "bipartisan support" of censure to spare country "trauma" of impeachment trial



Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) suggested on Tuesday that President Donald Trump might be censured to prevent the country from going through a “traumatic” impeachment trial in the Senate.

Graham, who has been Trump’s biggest defender in the Senate, made the suggestion when he was asked about a possible censure, according to CBS journalist Alan He.

“Who am I to advise my Dem colleagues about what to do,” Graham reportedly said. “Censure would probably gain some bipartisan support… the country going through an impeachment trial would be traumatic and I think we should avoid that if possible.”

https://www.rawstory.com/2019/12/lindsey-graham-floats-censure-with-trump-in-london-senate-trial-will-be-too-traumatic-on-the-country/

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Reply Lindsey discusses "bipartisan support" of censure to spare country "trauma" of impeachment trial (Original post)
Miles Archer Dec 3 OP
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wryter2000 Dec 3 #2
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karynnj Dec 3 #52
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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:05 PM

1. Fuck Lindsey and his traitor party and criminal president. Lock them all up.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:06 PM

2. Sounds like

He doesn't think his President is innocent, after all.

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:11 PM

7. Right - because who would censure an innocent man?

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Response to wryter2000 (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:43 PM

52. Not necessarily

No one asked him if HE would vote for censure. I suspect they want the Democrats to back down from impeaching Trump in the House and just censure him -- however, he is not saying any Republicans will vote for censure.

Also, consider they expect Trump to run in 2020. A censure vote that many Republicans vote will ask the question of whether they support him for re-election and why.

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Response to karynnj (Reply #52)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:52 PM

56. He does say censure would get some bipartisan support

That suggests at least one Republican thinks Trump did something bad.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:09 PM

3. It's not so much "traumatic" as it is "catharsis," Lindsey.

I hear you're being blackmailed. How does that feel?

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:09 PM

4. Spare

the country the trauma of another 4 years of Trump.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:10 PM

5. That was put on the table for Clinton by Democrats in 1998

Republicans weren't quite as concerned about the "trauma" of an impeachment trial in the Senate for Clinton and him lying about a consensual affair.

What he really means IMHO is that he's scared shirtless that *something* is going to come out the hearings in the House or trial in the Senate about him or other GOPers, so they want to start talking about ways to end this altogether- before anything horrifically damaging comes out on anybody.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:05 PM

27. THIS 👆🏻👆🏻👆🏻

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:46 PM

39. Spot on.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:42 PM

63. Graham wasn't interested on settling for censure when he was prosecuting Clinton

Graham was one of the House "managers" pursuing Bill Clinton in his impeachment trial. Not just voting for impeachment, but an active participant in prosecuting him in the Senate trial. No vote for censure, but an attempt to remove him from office.

Trump, whose offenses are against the country and everyone in it, is worthy of Graham's protection? Why? What compromising photos does Trump have that make Graham so terrified of a Trump trial in the Senate that he is proposing censure as a Hail Mary attempt to stop a falling boulder with a slingshot?

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:46 PM

64. Sign me up too on your hypothesis.

Ms. Lindsey is not as dumb as she feigns.

THE REAL REPUKE FEAR =
MF45 won't go down alone. He's taking a whole lot more ruski repuke a$$ets with him.

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Response to MFGsunny (Reply #64)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:04 PM

67. Which of course

I will lose exactly zero sleep over.

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Response to Proud Liberal Dem (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:09 PM

68. You hit the nail on the head.

He's the one who is currently traumatized by the looks of him.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:10 PM

6. ...and the horse you rode in on.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:12 PM

8. Two words

Fuck dat

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Response to malaise (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:22 PM

16. With you...

F Dat Noise!

I thought he was innocent... so not you want a plea bargain? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

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Response to malaise (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:30 PM

48. 2 more: Bill Clinton

Graham was an Impeachment Manager against Clinton, for the High Crime of Perjury over a consensual affair. THAT was essential to the nation, but THIS is not?

He is a paragon of situational ethics and hypocrisy.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #48)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:36 PM

49. +1,000

The truth

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #48)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:40 PM

61. Do you remember the good old days

where Republicans repeatedly accused US of "moral relativism"?

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:12 PM

9. Traumatic for you, asshole.

The country will do just fine. If we let this asshole get away with this, we have lost the country.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:14 PM

10. Poor Lindsey Graham... well, I never! Lawdy!

he country going through an impeachment trial would be traumatic and I think we should avoid that if possible.”
His Southern-Gentleman accent, ways and mannerisms aren't fooling me for one second. He's AFRAID! None of this is sincere or honorable. What will be revealed about HIM if an impeachment trial goes forward? What's he hiding?

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Response to NurseJackie (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:35 PM

21. Bless his heart, he MEANS well...

But screw that. The country is already traumatized. So take your concern, Lindsey, and shove it up your hibiscus.

(Oh, crap. Lindsey has fainted. Who's in charge of the smelling salts today?)

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Response to Buns_of_Fire (Reply #21)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:33 PM

38. Here's an amateur comedian that tickles my funny bone!

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:14 PM

11. Shorter Sen. Graham: President Trump should be above the law

Also, I don't want to have to vote on an impeachment trial in the Senate, because it's a no-win situation for me.

Too bad, Senator. Suck it up and get ready to do your constitutional duty. You and your like-minded colleagues can always resign your seats if that's too onerous.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:16 PM

12. Through THIS statement i see a BIG CRACK developing!

They ALL will fall in it! FUCK THEM ALL full speed ahead with IMPEACHMENT!!!

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:17 PM

13. Sounds like a retreat

It's still obnoxious but the Republican's Trump defense is eroding. You just can't build a solid case with bullshit.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:19 PM

14. It's far easier to ignore a censure...

for people like Leningrad Lindsey and Comrade Trump who have no shame.


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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:19 PM

15. Tell them to stick their censure up their collective asses

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:23 PM

17. Censure will show him.🙄

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:26 PM

18. Hmmmm...perhaps the evidence piling up against rump is getting to the point where it is ...

getting too hard to ignore? Excuses can't make it go away so easily.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:29 PM

19. Let's Buy Into Graham's Suggestion

Get bipartisan support for censure!
The impeach!
Happy Lindsay?

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:33 PM

20. Coward. Nt

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:46 PM

22. Censure is a slap on the wrist. He has other intentions.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:46 PM

23. I'll accept the same censure deal

that they gave to Bill Clinton, whose "crimes" were petty compared to this clown's abuses of office.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:56 PM

24. I'm open to that if the censor includes opening up the presidency to federal prosecution

and removes Barr's unconstitutional position.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:59 PM

25. There is already majority support for impeachment and removal

So

Fuck off Lindsay

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:08 PM

28. That censure should have happened on Day One of

this debacle of a presidency. Trump was permitted to behave like an ass without any rebuke. The impeachment has to go forward with or without the cowardly GOP.

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Response to livetohike (Reply #28)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:52 PM

40. Absolutely right.

Should've happened the first time he showed his colors as president.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:17 PM

29. Lindsey, Fuck you with a rusty, tetanus-covered railroad spike ... sideways.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:19 PM

30. Take your "censure" and shove it up your dirty, filthy ass, Lindsey.

I join the millions who will NOT be "traumatized" by impeachment. I look forward to it, and hope your corrupt ass gets exposed in the process.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:20 PM

31. Bugger off, Lindsey!

Censure is not adequate. Nope. Vote to remove him, you crusty old reprobate!

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:22 PM

32. How about

Let's end the trauma we've been living in for almost three years instead?

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:23 PM

33. I have a better idea

To spare us the trauma, tell your lip pad to resign.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:25 PM

34. He didn't give 2 shits about all of that back in 1998

Fuck you, Linzy. As always.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:30 PM

35. First of All: "Bipartisan" My Hairy Brown Buttocks!

If Graham gets even ONE Dem vote for censure (and we all know that means Mr. Manchin of West Virginia ) they will consider it "bipartisan," though it will be nowhere near that.

Secondly, did Mr. Graham support censure for Mr. Clinton when all he did was lie about an embarrassing affair (and not even under oath)? Meanwhile, lying is the native tongue of the guy Leningrad Lindsey's protecting today.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:30 PM

36. Wouldn't do a thing

to change his glaringly impeachable behavior.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:31 PM

37. This is interesting

Because Lindsey seems to not say anything unless pressed by Trump to do so. So, does that mean that maybe, just maybe, Trump is telling Lindsey to do this because he knows he loses support once all the hearings are said and done? Lindsey didn't just come out on his own and essentially "walk back"* the "he's innocent" nonsense without someone telling him to.

(* You don't offer up "censure" if someone is innocent, thus he walked it back)

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Response to ScratchCat (Reply #37)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:14 PM

43. That is an interesting point.

I doubt Lindsey is saying or doing anything these days without specific marching orders. It's only a question of who's giving them to him.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:02 PM

41. Nah it was perfect. Remember Lindsay?

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:06 PM

42. Too late, Baby

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:20 PM

44. Fuck your censure bullshit. All that does is give you a fucking out.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:04 PM

45. Traumatic? Lindsey wasn't clutching his pearls so much

when it was Bill Clinton in the hot seat.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:06 PM

46. Why not end the ongoing trauma of the Trump presidency?!

That is not hyperbole. When will our ongoing national nightmare finally be over?

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:06 PM

47. Recommended.

Last week, in one (or two) of the essays I posted, I noted that several republican Senators were putting out the trial balloon of censure rather than impeachment. At least two had brought it up in off-the-record conversations with Democrats.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:40 PM

50. Freepers would never accept this as their god has done nothing wrong,

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:42 PM

51. Fuck you Lindsey!

" .. the country going through an impeachment trial would be traumatic ..." R you shitting me Mr. B.J.
Hunter?

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:45 PM

53. we knew this coming

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:46 PM

54. Only if he and the GOP admit the truth of what Trump did and are clear that such behavior is

a betrayal of our country and a corruption of the integrity of our elections, a fundamental piece of our democracy, as well as our foreign policy. Admit that, and I don't care what you call the rebuke.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:50 PM

55. 😂

Did he say this with a straight face?

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:58 PM

57. Graham is a piece of shit.

Fuck him.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:34 PM

58. The 45 presidency itself is traumatic for the country

If the worst thing that could happen is more trauma? Then I say go for it.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:36 PM

59. The impeachment trial will be like a healing balm compared to the trauma we're subjected

to on a daily basis by Individual One.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:38 PM

60. A censure, for what? I thought he hadn't done anything wrong.

If he's done wrong, remove, but y'all said it was perfect.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:41 PM

62. ... I'm not ready to make nice


I'm not ready to back down
I'm still mad as hell, and I don't have time
To go 'round and 'round and 'round…

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:57 PM

65. Liar Lindsey. Leningrad Lindsey.

If Dems agreed to only censure, that offer would disappear so fast it would make their heads spin.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:03 PM

66. Well they have reached bargaining

Next depression then acceptance.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:43 PM

69. Someone needs to tell Lindsey

Bribing a foreign government to get dirt on a political opponent is a little more serious than lying about getting your carrot waxed.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 06:47 PM

70. Fuck that shit.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:07 PM

71. A trial, whether civil or criminal, is always traumatic for the people involved.

An impeachment is no different.

Despite the trauma, sometimes a trial is simply required in the interests of justice. Irrespective of the outcome, justice requires impeachment.

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:21 PM

72. Aw, poor widdle snowflakes need a safe space? Too bad!

Don't commit the crime if you can't do the time!

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Response to Miles Archer (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:23 PM

73. The only trauma is allowing Trump and the GOP to continue to

destroy the country. They had no problem putting America through the trauma of impeachment when Bill Clinton lied about an affair.

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