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Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:36 AM

Oklahoma Cop Accused Of Lying When He Said 'Pig' Was Printed On Starbucks Cups

https://newsone.com/3895341/cop-accused-lying-starbucks-cup/?utm_source=moengage&utm_campaign=starbucks&utm_medium=push

Oklahoma police chief Johnny O’Mara accused a Starbucks employee of writing “pig” on his cup, which caused the employee to be fired. Now, there are reports he may have lied and even his own daughter is blasting him.

Caroline Orr, a reporter for the National Observer wrote on Twitter, “Wait so people started pointing out that it looked like the cop may have lied about the name ‘PIG’ being printed on his Starbucks order, and now suddenly — after going to the press with the story — the cops are done talking b/c they ‘have more important things to worry about.'”


Orr continued, “I mean if they had more important things to worry about, why’d they go to the press with a story about their Starbucks order in the first place? Seems like they thought this was pretty newsworthy until people started asking questions and pointing out potential inconsistencies.”

One user also called out a Tulsa, Oklahoma reporter for not acknowledging that the printed name always comes from the user’s Starbucks account, “Hi Amy if you did your due diligence as a reporter you would note that if the cup were turned just slightly you would have been able to tell it was a mobile order & the cop named himself ‘PIG’ to generate a false controversy, which you fell for, non-mobile orders are hand written.”


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Reply Oklahoma Cop Accused Of Lying When He Said 'Pig' Was Printed On Starbucks Cups (Original post)
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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:56 AM

1. I hope the wrongly accused Worker gets their job back


We have no time for this nonsense.

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Response to MagickMuffin (Reply #1)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:04 AM

7. if we're going to spend time on this

then we should probably spend time with the real story rather than social media outrage (and false information). OK?

NYTimes - 2days ago -
Despite speculation on social media that the officer was responsible for the word on the label, a Starbucks statement expressly said that the barista “wrote this offensive word,” used “poor judgment” and was ultimately fired for violating company policy.

The junior sleuths on twitter that are claiming the cops "done it themselves" are ignoring the fact -- the Starbucks employee SAYS they did it. Meant it as a joke. (poor one apparently)

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:16 AM

10. Maybe, but "the barista "wrote this offensive word,"" is false. It was a printed receipt.

Still not convinced that "statement" was before Starbucks did any meaningful investigation, but after they decided to do some quick public relations damage control.

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Response to greyl (Reply #10)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:30 AM

13. I "write" from my position behind this keyboard

So you're not getting much traction there. But I can see that you've sufficiently made up your mind.
I think I'll go with the barista's apology ...

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #13)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:06 AM

15. You should share the Employee's words.

so we can all go with this apology. The only report of the employee apologizing is the officer saying the employee called him to apologize and said it was a joke. For what I think are obvious reasons I can't accept the officer's retelling.
While you write from a keyboard Starbuck's Baristas write your name by hand on the drinks. The only time a printed name appears on a Starbuck's cup is when you order it using the mobile app. That name is the one the person submitting the order types in.
What do you say, can you produce anything other than the officer telling us the Barista apologized to him? I think Starbucks didn't want to argue with the police and accepted their story uncritically.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #15)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 11:52 AM

39. A lot of people are mentioning the mobile app printed name

Either way I'm never going to a Starbucks.

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Response to JonLP24 (Reply #39)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:46 PM

54. Let it be known...

that nothing I wrote should be construed as me advising anyone to go to Starbucks.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #54)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:49 PM

56. I know

I was just giving my personal thoughts. I won't go to Starbucks because of how they treated minority customers in the past.

I was saying you're right about the mobile app which a lot of people are mentioning the process which is why they had doubts.

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Response to JonLP24 (Reply #56)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:52 PM

58. Thanks /nt

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #7)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:04 PM

42. Does anyone still use "pigs" anymore when referring to cops?

It's a term from the 60's, not popular today.

For what it's worth, someone saying someone else said something will not hold up in court. So until we actually hear the fired employee say they "did it" there is reason to be skeptical.

I found the story to be farfetched from the beginning.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:11 AM

2. Fuck the cop/chief, fuck the reporter, fuck the editor/news outlet, fuck Starbucks...

Have I missed anyone? Oh... yes, and fuck the national news and fuck social media.

Anyone else? (Fuck me, yeah, yeah... anyone ELSE?)

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:25 AM

3. somebody put viagra in your coffee?

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #3)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:37 AM

4. lol

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:10 AM

9. Reagan, both Bushes and TRUMP!

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Response to RockRaven (Reply #2)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:25 AM

27. only if you buy me a cup of coffee first...

...

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Response to Raster (Reply #27)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:53 PM

60. And the Viagra.

That shit is expensive.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:48 AM

5. The original story stands

Starbucks confirmed the employee wrote it. The employee admitted to it. There is no conspiracy here about it (it’s a local story to me). The employee was fired and it’s over with.

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Response to DVRacer (Reply #5)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:18 AM

16. Do you have a quote...

of the employee admitting he did it. The only quote I find is from the officer who said he got the PIG cups. I don't believe that happened unless the employee is quoted directly.
The problem for me is it is inconsistent with what I have observed at Starbucks. When an employee writes my name on the cup it is handwritten. When I order using the app I type in a name that is printed on the label. The name on the cup the police showed was printed. The police version maybe could happen, but it doesn't seem likely.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:53 AM

21. +1

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #16)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:54 PM

61. Yes. We know immature people who write "pig" on a cup....

will just jump in front of a camera and yell "It was me!!!"

We would see the person if they were unjustly fired.

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Response to TidalWave46 (Reply #61)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:05 PM

66. They might or they might not...

but the policeman who was ostensibly given the offensive cup(s) saying the baristia responsible called him and apologized doesn't prove that it happened nor does the silence of the person(s) fired/suspended prove they are guilty.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:54 AM

6. What an utter turd

I’m so glad he’s been called out.

I was offended on behalf of the police when I read the original story. People who haven’t done anything other than order coffee don’t deserve insults, right? Now I’m absolutely grossed out by this whiny self-pitying attention-seeking professional victim’s pathetic behavior.

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Response to renate (Reply #6)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:09 AM

8. police chief might be whiny bitch

but Starbucks employee admitted to writing offending script
(and would get fired from most businesses for same)

(OP started out from false premise.)

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:18 AM

11. You'll need to post links to be persuasive.

I've seen quotes that the cop said the employee admitted it and apologized, but no good evidence or corroboration.

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Response to greyl (Reply #11)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:43 AM

14. have posted links

"no good evidence or corroboration." You mean beyond several major news sources, the corporation, and the individuals involved? Are we suppose to be getting out our parabolic mics on this one?
https://ktul.com/news/local/starbucks-manager

NYTimes -- The officer told the station that the barista contacted him, apologized and said it was meant as a joke.


But that's alright. You go with your twitter influencers.

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:23 AM

17. The same officer who claims...

to have gotten drinks with the word PIG on them says the Barista called him to apologize. That isn't a quote from the employee it's second hand from someone with something to gain.

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:47 AM

19. And you go with the lying pig.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #19)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:00 AM

29. And you go with social media.

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Response to dware (Reply #29)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 11:05 AM

34. I'll go with myself.

Cops lie. It’s happened to me, why would I take his word for anything in this situation? No one has heard a thing from the employee.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #34)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 11:07 AM

35. So because it happened to you,

that means this really didn't happen?

Freaking amazing.

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Response to dware (Reply #35)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 11:08 AM

36. Not what a said.

I said I have no reason to believe the cop.

You do you.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #36)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:01 PM

40. Then why did Starbucks terminate the employee if it didn't happen?

You can bet Starbucks investigated the claim to avoid a wrongful termination lawsuit.

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Response to dware (Reply #40)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:03 PM

41. Yeah, we'll see. You are assuming so much in order to defend this cop.

It took Starbucks forever to fire some idiot racist managers.

But not a single shred of doubt about those assumptions of investigation in your mind. And now the cop says it was a joke?

Like I said. You do you.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #41)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:10 PM

43. You're doing the same thing,

assuming right away that the cop lied without a single shred of doubt.

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Response to dware (Reply #43)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:18 PM

44. Well the printed labels certainly added some doubt.

Some baristas have explained how those printed labels are generated.

I don't expect you to acknowledge it however. Because "investigation" or some other nonsense.

Here is part of Starbuck's statement:


The Starbucks partner who wrote this offensive word on a cup used poor judgement and is no longer a partner after this violation of company policy.



Except there were supposedly five orders and the labels were printed.

Such investigation.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #44)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:21 PM

45. I do acknowledge, but something happened that made Starbucks

determine that the employee was responsible for this, hence the termination.

Look, you and I aren't going to change each others minds, so, on that note, you have a great Tuesday.

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Response to dware (Reply #45)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:22 PM

46. Re-read my edited post with statement from Starbucks and try again.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #46)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:27 PM

48. I stand by my statement,

and until there is proof that the cop did lie and Starbucks says they goofed, then I'll believe the officer and Starbucks.

Another thing, if this didn't happen the way it's being portrayed, then why hasn't the employee come forward to dispute it?

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Response to dware (Reply #43)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:48 PM

55. MrsCoffee did no such thing.

MrsCoffee is considering the possibility that the cop *could* have lied. You seem to think such a thing is utterly impossible.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #55)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:41 PM

91. No, MrsCoffee did accuse the cop of lying and being a liar.

MrsCoffee (3,833 posts)
19. And you go with the lying pig.


It's right there in black and white.

It would seem that further information backs up the cops claim.

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Response to dware (Reply #40)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:30 PM

76. No, it's easier to fire someone and declare it over than deal with a boycott-

Starbucks can fire any employee (as can most employers) at will, as long as it's not for a narrow set of reasons (like racial/sexual discrimination).

Not sure they'd worry about a wrongful termination lawsuit considering that.

The manager and employee probably "apologized" in order to be done with it, and they might not have done anything wrong. We know how that works-- "Just apologize and we'll be done with it."

Then they got fired anyway.

I don't think their supposed apologies actually are indications of guilt.

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #14)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:04 AM

26. " The officer told the station..."

Doh

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:22 AM

12. I've only read Starbucks apologized, not the employee

Employee was fired

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:24 AM

18. That's all I've seen too. /nt

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Response to leftstreet (Reply #12)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:52 AM

20. The employee hasn't been named

Coming out and apologizing publicly would just be advertising that they're a shitty employee. Not a wise move for someone in need of a job.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #20)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 11:10 AM

37. That's probably what the cop was thinking.

No one to call him out without screwing themselves.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #37)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:54 PM

80. Pffft. Yeah, the cop made it all up

risking his reputation in the small town.

The internet sure can be entertaining.

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Response to pintobean (Reply #80)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:38 PM

90. Yeah, cops in small towns never make anything up.

Oh so funny.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #90)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:43 PM

92. So the manager that was was suspended made it all up

when she said she was suspended even though it was an employee that did it, not her?

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Response to stopdiggin (Reply #8)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:55 AM

24. "... a whiny bitch" -- really? No reason to use gendered slurs

And yes, even though the cop is a man, it is a gendered slur, even ore of one.

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #24)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 07:58 AM

25. I agree - nt

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Response to obamanut2012 (Reply #24)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 11:10 AM

38. +1

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:35 AM

22. Would not surprise me

Those thugs are caught lying all the time.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:51 AM

23. This was fishy from the beginning

I've read nothing that said this cop walked into a Starbucks, ordered a drink and a barista wrote "pig" on the cup. I'm willing to bet that whoever made the drink had no idea who the customer was and just used whatever name was given, either over the phone or online, for the order pick up.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 08:58 AM

28. Accused by who?

Social Media?

Starbucks has already apologized to the officer and the dept. after, I quite sure, they investigated the incident.


https://stories.starbucks.com/stories/2019/joint-statement-from-starbucks-and-kiefer-okla-police-after-regrettable-incident/

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Response to dware (Reply #28)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:54 AM

32. It's more fun to believe the PIG was the bad guy.

Facts be damned.

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Response to Bonx (Reply #32)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:24 PM

47. The corollary being just as valid

"It's more fun to believe law enforcement is a sacred cow."

Six of one, half a dozen of the other. Facts be damned, indeed...

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #47)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:49 PM

50. Incorrectly framed. I'll believe the NYT over some random tweets.

"Despite speculation on social media that the officer was responsible for the word on the label, a Starbucks statement expressly said that the barista “wrote this offensive word,” used “poor judgment” and was ultimately fired for violating company policy.

“This language is offensive to all law enforcement and is not representative of the deep appreciation we have for police officers who work tirelessly to keep our communities safe,” Mr. Mendes said."

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/30/us/starbucks-pig-cup.html

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Response to Bonx (Reply #50)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:04 PM

65. Given how much coffee the pi errr cops drink ... does it 'pay' for Starbucks

to say anything but ... what they said?

I.E. do you think it's more important to Starbucks that they 'tell the truth' (if the cop was indeed responsible) ... WRT their bottom-line?

I'm certainly not saying I 'know' either way, but I could easily see Starbucks deciding that it's not in their interest to say the Cop did it, even if they were 100% positive it was so.

A wrongful termination lawsuit, even if victorious, would not hurt them nearly as much as the pissing off of the Fuzz.

A great many people tend to not really care about the truth anymore, in case you've not noticed.

And everyone knows 'the customer is always right' ... yeah?

Just something(s) to consider.

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Response to mr_lebowski (Reply #65)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:56 PM

81. The fired employee said one of the baristas did it.

"Former Starbucks manager says she was wrongfully fired after coffee cup controversy...

"I was terminated from my position because, Starbucks was looking for someone to take the blame for this and to save some face from their company," she said.

After nine months as a manager, Price said she was fired for something she didn't do and explained that she wasn't the one who printed "PIG" on the label.

That was done, she says, by one of the baristas."

https://ktul.com/news/local/starbucks-manager

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:19 AM

30. Internet sleuths win the day.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:39 AM

31. A few loose ends here no matter which side you hear.

But the only telling evidence is the laser printed word "pig". Everything else is hearsay, each side with either an alibi, a bone to pick or the need to save on lawyers fees.
The answer is found on the laser printed sticker.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:58 AM

33. *pretends to be shocked*

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:34 PM

49. Two of the three most-replied-to threads in GD right now concern an animal word being written

on a fucking Starbucks cup. What the fuck, people? Who gives a shit?

If our country, our world, are going to survive, we're going to have to do better than this with our priorities and attention. This is fucking ridiculous.

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Response to coti (Reply #49)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:51 PM

57. The cops give a shit, obviously.

Their little fee-fees got hurted.

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Response to Mariana (Reply #57)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:06 PM

67. Why do other cops even give a crap that some clown wrote a word on some other clown's coffee cup?

Exactly how does that have the slightest impact on their lives, or their families' lives? This type of inane conflict between two random people happens all the time. I'm not sure about whether I could give less of shit about it, but I don't think I could. And it certainly doesn't deserve the attention it's getting from people on DU or elsewhere.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:53 PM

51. Didn't hte Starbucks employee apologise and said it was meant as a joke?

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #51)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 01:52 PM

59. Can you find a quote from the employee?

All I see is a quote from the cop, who may have been lying about the whole incident.

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Response to Quackers (Reply #62)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:00 PM

63. That is the cop saying what the barista said.

I have seen nothing from the barista. Nor would I expect them to speak up at this point.

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Response to Cuthbert Allgood (Reply #63)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:15 PM

72. The barista wasn't fired. It was the manager who said a barista did it.

""I was terminated from my position because, Starbucks was looking for someone to take the blame for this and to save some face from their company," she said.

After nine months as a manager, Price said she was fired for something she didn't do and explained that she wasn't the one who printed "PIG" on the label.

That was done, she says, by one of the baristas."

https://ktul.com/news/local/starbucks-manager

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Response to Mariana (Reply #59)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:03 PM

64. It appears that it was the manger who was fired

"After nine months as a manager, Price said she was fired for something she didn't do and explained that she wasn't the one who printed "PIG" on the label.

That was done, she says, by one of the baristas.

"They, to make it seem like they were right on top of everything, which they are, but they terminated me from my position with no cause," she said.

Price said she tried to make it right when she found out about the labels."

https://ktul.com/news/local/starbucks-manager

It appears that the fired manager says it was an employee who did that.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:57 PM

52. I'm shocked, SHOCKED!

That a cop would lie!

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 12:57 PM

53. This is why I always wait for these stories to unfold (and I'm not even sure this one is over).

I think I'll give this one a little more time, too.

The only thing I thought was strange the first time around was the use of the term "pig", which is pretty archaic for a Starbucks barista to be using, IMHO.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #53)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:12 PM

69. You are right to wait...

https://ktul.com/news/local/starbucks-manager
https://ktul.com/news/local/chief-kiefer-pd-receiving-security-footage-monday-from-starbucks-to-put-an-end-to-rumors

Apparently a manager was fired and she says it was a baristia who did the name . Then we have the police chief saying they have Starbucks security footage that will show it was done by a Starbucks employee or employees.
I expect as more news comes out about this the understanding of what happened will go through a bunch of changes.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #53)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:12 PM

70. It's not over. Read post #68.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:09 PM

68. The fired Starbucks manager said it was a barista that put the word "PIG" on the cups

"Former Starbucks manager says she was wrongfully fired after coffee cup controversy...

"I was terminated from my position because, Starbucks was looking for someone to take the blame for this and to save some face from their company," she said.

After nine months as a manager, Price said she was fired for something she didn't do and explained that she wasn't the one who printed "PIG" on the label.

That was done, she says, by one of the baristas."

https://ktul.com/news/local/starbucks-manager

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #68)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:15 PM

71. Every single person who has weighed in...

on this has left me feeling they left out some stuff this manager included. I'm pretty sure we haven't seen this story in its final form yet.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #71)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:18 PM

73. Look what you wrote in post #15

"You should share the Employee's words.

so we can all go with this apology. The only report of the employee apologizing is the officer saying the employee called him to apologize and said it was a joke. For what I think are obvious reasons I can't accept the officer's retelling.
While you write from a keyboard Starbuck's Baristas write your name by hand on the drinks. The only time a printed name appears on a Starbuck's cup is when you order it using the mobile app. That name is the one the person submitting the order types in.
What do you say, can you produce anything other than the officer telling us the Barista apologized to him? I think Starbucks didn't want to argue with the police and accepted their story uncritically. "

I and others have posted a link to the story where the fired manager (Employee) said she tried to make it right and that it was a barista who put the word on the coffee cup.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #73)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 02:44 PM

74. I read the story from the manager...

and I understand what she says now implicates an employee, an employee who is conveniently not her. From a link in that same story there is another puzzle piece, the police chief now says he has security footage from the Starbucks that will prove what happened. That footage hasn't been released so we are left with a promise of video.
All I'm saying is I don't think we have seen the last twist in this unfolding tale of offensively labeled, mediocre, caffeinated refreshment.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #74)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 03:09 PM

75. "Mediocre" is being generous.

I mean, they are consistent, so there's that. And if your drink of choice isn't coffee with minimal additions, they do a good job at the sugary mixed drinks. But their coffee as just coffee is hot trash.

Their nitro cold brew is solid.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #74)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:16 PM

77. It was the manager who apologised to the police officer & it was the manager who was fired

"Oklahoma police chief Johnny O’Mara accused a Starbucks employee of writing “pig” on his cup, which caused the employee to be fired. "

The story in the OP appears to have the facts wrong. The fired employee, the manager, said it was a barista that did it. You tried to argue earlier that there is no word directly from the employee who was terminated and that is not true as proven by the link to the story I provided you. It may be because you have the barista confused with the person who was fired for this.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #77)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:00 PM

82. You seem to be chastising me...

for what you think are inaccuracies in my post #15. When I wrote that I had not seen what the manager said, but I am addressing the officer being apologized to by the barista. In the NYT story the officer is quoted as saying the employee contacted him and said it was a joke. This has been used as proof that the barista confessed and my position is that it is not. With that in mind I asked the person who said they would go with the barista's apology what the apology they are going by said. Neither myself or the person who I was questioning were refering to the manager because we didn't know there was a manager involved.
Again, I have read the piece on the manager and I understand she indicated a barista was responsible for the cup label(s). That means that we still haven't heard from the offending employee, presumably the one the officer was contacted by.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #82)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:06 PM

85. But would you agree that the article in the OP is incorrect?

"Oklahoma police chief Johnny O’Mara accused a Starbucks employee of writing “pig” on his cup, which caused the employee to be fired. "

It was the manger who was fired and not one of the baristas whom the fired manager said did it. The fired manager is claiming she was wrongfully terminated by Starbucks and has said nothing negative, as far as I can find, about the police or police chief.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #85)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:16 PM

87. Yes there are several inaccuracies...

it wasn't the police chief's cup and it was the manager not the employee who was fired.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #87)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 09:30 PM

89. Yes and reading the thread, it appears many believe the inaccuracies.

In reading more news about this, it's reported that both the manager and employee have been suspended.

"We reached out to Starbucks Friday and they tell us the employee and a manager have been suspended. "

https://ktul.com/news/local/chief-kiefer-pd-receiving-security-footage-monday-from-starbucks-to-put-an-end-to-rumors

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #74)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:28 PM

78. Just playing here

The video will show the employee(s) affixing a label to a cup. They will not have video of the label being printed. I doubt if they will have video of am employee altering the printing protocol.

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Response to Cartoonist (Reply #78)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 04:37 PM

79. So you are saying it's possible the fired employee is lying?

When she said it was the barista that did it?

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #79)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:03 PM

83. There wasn't one word in that post...

that attempts to say why the manager was fired or that she was lying when she said a barista did it. How would you come to that conclusion?

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #83)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:10 PM

86. If it wasn't done by one of the baristas, then the fired employee was lying.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #86)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:22 PM

88. It doesn't mean the...

manager was fired for lying. As far as we know Starbucks fired her because such an offensive label was given to a police officer on her watch. Maybe Starbucks is operating from the position that the baristia did put the name on the cup and the baristia has been disciplined or fired we don't actually know his fate at this point.

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Response to tonedevil (Reply #88)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 10:48 PM

93. That is a very reasonable assumption.

Hopefully we'll learn more soon so this whole thing can be put to rest.

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Response to Kaleva (Reply #79)

Tue Dec 3, 2019, 05:04 PM

84. Why didn't she throw him under the bus?

It sounds like she can't name names.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 04:53 PM

94. Snopes has weighed in

"Claim: A Starbucks barista in Glenpool, Oklahoma, added the word "pig" to a police officer's order label in November 2019.
Rating: True"

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/starbucks-police-pig/

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Response to Bonx (Reply #94)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 07:59 PM

96. Snopes is an alt right website. Not to be trusted.

Wharglebargle!!!1!1!

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Response to Dr. Strange (Reply #96)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 08:24 PM

97. But the article that starts right off the bat with an inaccuracy should be?

Give me a break. Police chief isn't claiming somebody wrote "Pig" on his coffee cup.

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Response to Demovictory9 (Original post)

Thu Dec 5, 2019, 05:02 PM

95. O'Mara isn't the one who said word "pig" was written on his cup.

So right from the start that article is inaccurate.

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