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Sun Dec 1, 2019, 07:17 PM

Where is the "journalism" concerning Russia/Trump?

To me, the entire Trump Presidency is all about what happened between him and those in Russia that developed his allegiance/alliance with them.
This could be the biggest political story in our nation’s history. Why isn’t it being vociferously chased?

I just don’t understand why there has only been piecemeal stories and reporting around the edges concerning Trumps Russia connections.
We need some modern Woodward and Bernstein’s to uncover every possible rock in Moscow and the links to a Trump.
When and why did Trump first show an interest in the Russians?
Who in Russia reciprocated that interest and why?
Once we know when, where, and why Trumps coziness to the Kremlin and to Putin or the Oligarchs began, I bet everything he has done both before and after his Presidency will make sense.

Follow the rubles and the kompromat, comrades.

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Reply Where is the "journalism" concerning Russia/Trump? (Original post)
Funtatlaguy Sunday OP
Dirty Socialist Sunday #1
milestogo Sunday #2
Funtatlaguy Sunday #3
mylightningtoo Sunday #4
broiles Sunday #5
Funtatlaguy Monday #9
uponit7771 Sunday #6
brooklynite Monday #7
Funtatlaguy Monday #10
JonLP24 Monday #14
enough Monday #8
Funtatlaguy Monday #11
Kid Berwyn Monday #12
Funtatlaguy Monday #13
Kid Berwyn Monday #15
ehrnst Tuesday #16

Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 07:28 PM

1. The Dily Kos Only

As far as I know the Daily Kos is the only outlet that is reporting on Russian mob bosses bailing out Trump on his seventh bankrupcy. I read it on another thread here, on DU.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 07:35 PM

2. Rachel Maddow on MSNBC has followed it from day one.

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Response to milestogo (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 07:47 PM

3. Yes. But I'm talking about the very first time

That Trump and the Russians made a real connection...then where did it go and why...who owes who what...and what does each side expect from each other.
Trump is never directly asked what he owes the Zrussisns and what they owe him. He needs to be asked specific questions that he can stumble through, but more importantly, we need dirt digging reporters all over every Russian connection they have and can find throughout Europe.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 08:33 PM

4. Journalists today looking for

the easy stories to keep up with the 24 hour news cycle. The compass always points to Putin.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 10:10 PM

5. Read "Crime in Progress"

It's written by the guys from Fusion. It's all about the evolution of the Trump/ Russia scandal. Good read.

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Response to broiles (Reply #5)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:51 AM

9. Yes. They come the closest to doing it.

But most of their stuff is what we already knew
I’m hoping that they and others will dig deeper.
What is the agreement/arrangement between Trump and Putin/Other Russians?

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 11:47 PM

6. K&R, it'd be news if Trump was ... NOT ... doing something that benefited Russia. Humans don't like

... to think someone they HAVE to trust might be a monster.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 12:24 AM

7. Always fascinating to see demands for better journalism...

...from people who choose not to be journalists.

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #7)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:52 AM

10. I actually was a sports journalist before I retired

I have a journalism degree. But thanks.
News reporting as real journalism died years ago when our society accepted news as a profit center and became infotainment.
Most corporate media sources were consolidated and turned into nothing resembling the days of Edward R Murrow. Sigh.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #10)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:10 PM

14. +1000

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 08:00 AM

8. Try:

RUSSIAN ROULETTE by David Corn and Michael Isikoff

HOUSE OF TRUMP, HOUSE OF PUTIN by Craig Unger

For starters.

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Response to enough (Reply #8)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 10:57 AM

11. Love those two authors.

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Original post)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 11:07 AM

12. Wayne Barrett of The Village Voice was Dean of Trump Crime

From his obit in Politico:

Excerpt...

Barrett started looking into Trump in 1977. Trump had been sued by the federal government for racial bias in renting apartments in Brooklyn and Queens and at the time was renovating what would become Manhattan’s Grand Hyatt hotel thanks to tax breaks of historic proportions. Before network television made his name synonymous with being a boss, before his divorces and his affairs and the bankruptcies at his casinos, before Trump Tower was erected as the hub of his vanity and ambition, Barrett sat in a spare room at the offices of the State Urban Development Corporation and scoured for hours thousands of pages of public records. He was 33, and Trump was 32. “I was a rookie, he was a rookie,” Barrett would say. And one day, a nearby phone rang. “Wayne!” said the voice on the other end. “It’s Donald! I hear you’re doing a story on me!” Someone at the UDC had tipped off Trump to what Barrett was up to. And when Trump eventually saw that Barrett saw through him—that he was focused on the sham, not the show—first he tried to bribe Barrett with a new apartment, and then he threatened to sue, invoking the name of Roy Cohn, his pugnacious and politically connected mentor. What Barrett nonetheless published in the Voice made him, forever, the original authority on Trump.

Snip...

“He had prided himself on never having met a public official, a banker, a lawyer, a reporter, or a prosecutor he couldn’t seduce,” Barrett wrote. “Some he owned, and others he merely manipulated. As he saw it, it was not just that everyone had a price, it was that he knew what the price was. He believed he could look across a table and compute the price, then move on to another table and borrow the money to pay it. ‘Everybody tries to get some money’ was his assessment in one unpublished interview of what motivates the people he dealt with. It was his one-sentence summary of human nature.”

Continues...

https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/wayne-barrett-obituary-reporter-village-voice-trump-first-214669

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Response to Kid Berwyn (Reply #12)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 12:04 PM

13. Wish this guy was still alive

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Response to Funtatlaguy (Reply #13)

Mon Dec 2, 2019, 01:25 PM

15. Me, too. From WhoWhatWhy.org, a Russia-Deutsche Bank-Trump Crimeco primer...

DEUTSCHE BANK, TRUMP, RUSSIA, SAUDI ARABIA: WHAT'S THE CONNECTION?

Deutsche Bank: A Global Bank for Oligarchs — American and Russian, Part 1 (1/08/2018)
International banking colossus Deutsche Bank has a track record of deploying illegal financial trading, money laundering, and shady offshore tax shelters in the service of the global elite. Should anyone be surprised that Deutsche is on Robert Mueller’s Trump-Russia investigation radar?

Deutsche Bank: A Global Bank for Oligarchs — American and Russian, Part 2 (1/15/2018)
What do President Donald Trump and a number of Russian oligarchs have in common? Answer: Deutsche Bank. We pick up where we left off by examining how Trump first became involved with the international colossus — a bank catering to clients who understood that sometimes the line between profit and illegality blurs.

Deutsche Bank: A Global Bank for Oligarchs — American and Russian, Part 3 (2/01/2018)
Not only is President Donald Trump personally tied up with Deutsche Bank to the tune of $300 million, but his son-in-law Jared Kushner has his own history with the global banking giant. Part 3 looks closely at these relationships, and asks just how far President Trump’s Justice Department will be willing to go in probing potential illegality on the part of Deutsche.

Deutsche Bank: Where the Dots of Russiagate Connect (1/24/2018)
Martin Sheil, a retired branch chief of the IRS Criminal Division, discusses his WhoWhatWhy series on Deutsche Bank and how nearly all the main figures involved in Russiagate also have ties to the financial institution.

House GOP Leads Russia Probe… Away From Deutsche Bank (2/27/2018)
House Republicans who are supposed to be investigating Russian interference in the 2016 election say there is no need to look at Deutsche Bank. Here is why they are wrong.

Source: https://whowhatwhy.org/2019/05/01/deutsche-bank-trump-russia-saudi-arabia-whats-the-connection/

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