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Sun Dec 1, 2019, 12:15 AM

There Can Be No Peace

As we look forward to the day Trump leaves office, we also recognize that the division he and his party have so carefully and deliberately crafted will sadly always be with us.

With the election of a new president, wounds will begin to heal. Neighbours will once again chat over the back fence about mundane things. News headlines will return to the usual pre-Trumpian fare; political scandals will still happen, but won’t rise to the level of a president working to undermine our very democracy, and an entire administration aiding and abetting his treason.

Over time, the chasm between us will narrow. But it will still exist – and we will be ever mindful of it for many years to come.

As the memory of the disastrous Trump ‘pResidency” fades, we will approach each other with wariness, ever mindful of how quickly citizens can be pitted against each other, and how easily corruption can be sold to the masses as business-as-usual.

We will wonder if those who’d supported Trump did so because they believed he was who he pretended to be – a successful businessman who would Make America Great Again – or because they wholly embraced his racism and bigotry. We will wonder if they voted for him out of ignorance of his true nature – or because they knew who he was and were comfortable with it. We will wonder if those who yelled lock her up or send her back were simply the ill-informed and easily-led, or if they finally felt free to voice the hatred and bigotry they’d harboured for decades, but were too ashamed to openly express.

We will never look at a Republican voter without wondering if they supported Trump’s policies because the FOX-News version of their impact sounded benign and reasonable – or because they knew the truth about children locked in cages, and truly believed that black/brown people deserved whatever terrible fate awaited them should they dare to seek a better life in a country meant for ‘whites only’.

We will never again hear the words of an elected Republican without suspicion, even those who demonstrate a willingness to work ‘across the aisle’ for the good of the citizenry – because we will forever be sceptical of their ability to stand their ground when their party leaders beckon them to abandon their principles and put party over country, and political power over the betterment of the people they are meant to serve.

I do believe that there are good Republicans, and I believe that some of them will be deservedly elected to office. But the past three years have taught us how easily ‘good people’ can be manipulated, through fear and intimidation, into going-along-to-get-along, into accepting the unacceptable, into defending the indefensible for political influence and/or personal gain.

After years of lies, deceit, power-grabs, dark money, and the suppression of our rights at the hands of a party willing to betray their own countrymen, we can never go back to fully trusting that party or its adherents. We can never again look at them without remembering just how untrustworthy they’ve now proven themselves to be.

Perhaps some day we will again be able to stand united, two parties whose ideologies are different, but whose goals are the same. Perhaps we will once again be able to shake the hand of a Republican without checking to make sure their other hand isn’t gripping the knife they plan to use to stab us in the back. Perhaps someday the painful lesson will be learned about putting one’s faith in self-serving con-men, and the hypocritical ‘Christian leaders’ who shepherd their flocks to the voting booth in exchange for money and their own political influence.

Perhaps one day the truth will again be recognized for what it is, a day when facts are facts and not a matter of opinion, a day when civility and respect are the norm and not an aberration.

But that day is in the distant future, and will only dawn when people of courage and good character fight for it, and refuse to accept anything less.

This is the legacy of Trump and his followers: a nation that will lick its wounds and try to heal, but will wear its scars for decades to come.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 12:31 AM

1. trump judges will trash the country for decades after he is gone. may need to impeach some of

those as well

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Response to msongs (Reply #1)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:06 AM

7. Totally agree. +1

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 12:52 AM

2. K&R...👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 12:57 AM

3. Nance, sorry to say I will not wonder about Republicans in the future

As Maya Angelou said, "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

This should also apply to their actions. Republicans have now shown us who they are by their words and their actions. Although many have said it out loud, more have kept quiet thus showing the world how they are complicit in the crimes of their cult leader.

I have some acquaintances who are Republican and have not been able to make myself contact them since we got home three weeks ago. I tell myself it is so I won't gloat that their "chosen one" is now being found out but in truth I realize that it is more that I am worried that they will not recognize that he is a crook. They only listen to Fox News so I am sure they are getting a distorted view of the proceedings. Even if they read or heard something from outside their self inflicted bubble, they wouldn't believe it.

Although I enjoy their company since we have many interests in common, I can no longer relax in their presence and cannot enjoy their company.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 01:27 AM

4. Americans have short memories, especially when it comes to politics.

I am sorry to say that we will repeat this mistake again. Maybe not in my lifetime but we will make the same mistakes. I am a realist. Some people never learn and Americans are not known for their interest in History or knowledge about countries other than our own.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 01:39 AM

5. What Iain Banks said about the Tories there, applies to the Republicans here.

"I'm not arguing there are no decent people in the Tory Party, but they're like bits of sweetcorn in a turd: technically they've kept their integrity, but they're still embedded in shit."

Iain Banks

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Response to dobleremolque (Reply #5)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:09 AM

8. They'll never taste the same again, either.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 01:48 AM

6. The racist republican voters were stewing for 8 years over Obama's presidency, they couldn't

wait to throw their fit, break everything, yell & scream in the form of electing a nazi as president. They can all kiss my ass, I will never have anything to do with them again.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:41 AM

9. I keep thinking about the lost productivity of the American people while he hogs the narrative.

Every freaking day for three years. He's in our faces constantly.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:22 AM

10. The Republican Party has been rotten to the core for many decades.

And that won't change post-Trump. If both parties agreed on the facts but disagreed over the reasons for said facts or how best to respond to given facts, that'd be one thing. But for a very long time we've been dealing with a party and its base that simply denies facts and lies constantly. Trump is the inevitable result of 50+ years of increasingly cruel and unhinged rhetoric and policy. He didn't happen in a vacuum, and the GOP isn't going to suddenly see the error of its ways.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:35 AM

11. I just love your work.

But it will be a VERY long time before my opinion of the republi-CON party improves. They have a gigantic load of reparations, sincere and humble contrition, and a wholesale change of heart, mind, philosophy, and world view, that I doubt they can climb a mountain that high.

It always has to start with sincere and humble acknowledgement. As they say in AA, first you have to admit you have a problem. And I don’t have much confidence that most of ‘em will go there.

How’d it go with all those “good Germans”? Didn’t it take busting through the guard gates at the concentration camps and confronting the hard truths of those millions of bodies... and the ovens... and all the unspeakable atrocities...? Didn’t it take forcing them to face the bare horrors they enabled? That’s what it took to finally shake them awake. That and utter financial and social ruin and shame and the shock and horror of the rest of the world.

I don’t know if the trumpers can ever get there, if they can ever fully admit what THEY enabled. Nobody wants to admit they were wrong, especially when they embraced it all so eagerly, ardently, proudly.

Nobody wants to be the ones that were wrong. Or even worse, that they were had. ROYALLY had. That’s an awfully big lift. Frankly, I doubt many of them are up to it by now, or ever.

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Response to calimary (Reply #11)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 04:18 AM

12. That's why I've spoken ...

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... in terms of decades and a distant future.

I doubt that those of us who have lived through the Trump years will ever trust Republicans. I only hope that the generations that come after us will adapt to a changing world, and realize that a party built on bigotry, racism, greed and deceit simply cannot survive.

Current-day Republicans are still ignoring climate change - future generations won't be debating its existence, because they'll be living with the consequences of it. The fight to 'keep America white' will have been lost as whites become the minority, and inter-marriage produces children who are a mixture of races and ethnicities.

Maybe someday the Republican party will reinvent itself as something respectable. But if and when that happens, the Trump-humpers will be long dead and buried. And so will we who witnessed the unthinkable, a political party selling out its own country in order to worship a madman.

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Response to NanceGreggs (Original post)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 03:40 PM

13. If they did not know what Trump was when they voted for him...

...they either weren't paying attention, or they are idiots.

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