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Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:10 AM

I have a story for you...

I'm not going to name names but if you Google "Philadelphia dentist found shot in burning car" you might come up with something...

Quite a few years ago there was this dentist who practiced in Center City Philly, right down the street from me. He was out and had been for years even when he was in dental school (and was a student with whom I'd come into contact on numerous occasions). He an his office like a continuous party, had all kinds of goings-on, treated not a few Philly-celebrities in other words, relatively minor characters but because this is a Village, they are "hot-shots" and generally was known as a party animal and somewhat eccentric, e.g. he would hire a limo to drive him a few blocks - this was long before Uber and Lyft.

Anyway, he used to hold these big parties in his home and invite many many of his patients, some of whom were politicos and business people as well as some who skated, shall we say, on the shady side of existence, but here as elsewhere, these people hobnob with the politicians for obvious and not so obvious reasons. These parties I was made to understand were WILD, and all kinds of behaviors and conversations abounded. IT was revealed that he had surreptitiously recorded audio and perhaps video of these parties and people were aghast and afraid.

Not long thereafter, I was driving to work early one morning and heard that not far from me, they had found this gentleman shot dead in the front seat of his car which had then been torched. Law enforcement hunted around for a while and then it got quiet after a few leads were dismissed. The incident has never been mentioned, written about, or discussed again in the media.

I believe that he has recorded the "wrong people" which led to his demise. I recalled hearing that at his last party, attended by not a few of my patients, the mayor, some state politicians, a City Council Rep or two, and a member of the US House, now deceased as well as some CEO's of middle level companies. You get the idea. One can only imagine what is discussed among these folks, to say nothing of the sexual banter/behavior that took place upstairs.

So when I heard that Mr J. Epstein had departed this mortal coil, I was not in the least surprised. He had the goods on everyone of prominence and thus he, in the immortal words of Ian Fleming haveing written in the book Goldfinger, "...had to be hit." Knowledge may be power, but too much knowledge is death.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:12 AM

1. In other words, Epstein knew too much.

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Response to LisaL (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:12 AM

2. In other words,

you could say that.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:23 AM

3. I think the person who got Epstein is more rich and powerful than Trumper.

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:28 AM

5. +1

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:46 AM

6. I agree that he had the goods on a powerful someone or several someones

that killed Epstein to hide their dirty secrets. I’m not unhappy Epstein left the planet but I was hoping we would find out more about who frequented his evil island before he departed. I would think a whole lot of folks breathed a sigh of relief upon his death. There has to be video hidden somewhere. Has to be.

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Response to MontanaMama (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:50 AM

7. You have to think he had some "insurance" hidden somewhere.

Now the person in charge of it may be to scared to show it, but I bet it is out there.

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 11:10 AM

10. It was a perfect storm.

This guy’s FATHER hired an unqualified Jeffrey Epstein to teach at an exclusive NYC prep school.



Who knew, one day the young teacher — and his own son — would become powerful DC kingmakers? Besides the spooks?

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Response to redstatebluegirl (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 1, 2019, 02:36 AM

20. yep

the very tippy top

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:27 AM

4. But but but

Some say we're pushing conspiracy theories

Thanks for that story

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Response to malaise (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 12:47 PM

13. I know

I was accused of pushing conspiracy theories by some nameless people. In a rather condescending and pushy way too.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #13)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 01:46 PM

17. ...

It's almost as if it is inconceivable that a murder can be made to look like a suicide even to a medical examiner. If someone could arrange sleepy guards and inoperable security cameras and no cellmate, I believe even I could 'suicide' the target. The deed would be fairly simple; it's setting up the conditions to get away with it that would be problematic. We know now that those conditions existed.

A "good" hit either sends a message or presents no evidence of it being a hit.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:56 AM

8. It's amazing that they got the two guards in on it too....and they're taking the blame...SWEET!

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 12:53 PM

14. Interestingly enough there were too few guards, so these two were working very long hours iirc...

The knock on them is they fell asleep on the job and then fudged their work-logs.

Now that may just be a physiological thing, exhaustion and then an attempt to cover up. But both of them at once?

But given the broken cameras and other coincidences, what I wonder is this: were both of them given a mild sedative?

Very convenient fall-guys. Prison guards aren't important to anyone but their families, and none of them have power and influence or they wouldn't be prison guards in the first place.

Lots of coinkydinks here.

As Malcolm Nance says: It takes a LOT of work to create a coincidence.

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Response to UniteFightBack (Reply #8)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 01:47 PM

18. there is no reason to have the two guards "in on it"

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 11:01 AM

9. "Scientia potentia est," Francis Bacon said.

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As Mr. Fleming knew, sex is an integral part of spycraft since time immemorial. The introduction of photography, sound recording and digital technologies have served to increase the size and quality of the take. The late US Attorney and later mob lawyer Roy Cohn was one big proponent.

https://www.conspiracyarchive.com/2014/08/24/sex-is-a-gun-the-deeper-story-of-the-d-c-madam/

The late Ms. Deborah Jeane Palfrey, called by the news media the DC Madam, had a little black book with 10,000 phone numbers. Her clients included Sen. David Vitter, an Assistant Secretary of State, Pentagon officials and defense contractors. A little sexual blackmail can go far when billions are at stake. After her “suicide” by hanging, the book and its contents languish in federal legal limbo.

https://wtop.com/presidential-election/2016/04/ex-lawyer-starts-disclosing-who-called-d-c-madam/

The late Mr. Jeffrey Epstein, per then Labor Secretary Alexander Costa, was similarly connected. “Belonged to intelligence” is how the then-US Attorney Costa described what he saw when arranging a most lenient sentence for the child sexual predator he had helped prosecute.

https://whowhatwhy.org/2019/10/04/jeffrey-epstein-belonged-to-intelligence/

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 11:47 AM

11. ah yes, the J. Edgar Hoover model

Here's an interesting story from The Daily Beast on how Hoover handled such matters.

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Reading the Official and Confidential files that survived makes it clear they could have been gathered for no other purpose than blackmail. For example, on June 13, 1958, the head of the Washington field office informed Hoover that, prior to marrying a member of Congress, the member’s wife had been “having an affair with a Negro [and] also at one time carried on an affair with a House Post Office employee.” More recently, the report said, the congressman’s wife “endeavored to have an affair with [an] Indonesian, who declined.”

In response to this tidbit, Hoover wrote back on June 25 that it was “certainly thoughtful of you to advise me of matters of current interest, and I am glad to have the benefit of this information.”

“This was a way of putting congressmen on notice that we had something on them and therefore they would be more disposed to meeting the bureau’s needs and keeping Hoover in power,” says John J. McDermott, who headed the Washington field office and eventually became deputy associate FBI director.

Hoover let presidents know that he had dirt on them as well.

snip

More at link.

Just like your dentist colleague, PCIntent, these things have a way of biting back.



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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 12:22 PM

12. If it were true, then why didn't Epstein have insurance?

Every good criminal knows that at some point they may be threatened, That's why they keep items of interest in a safe deposit box with them having to be present to gain access, and also an accomplice to "mail the package out in the event of my death". Was he murdered? Don't know but that cache of materials is out there somewhere, just waiting.....

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Response to infullview (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 12:54 PM

15. Maybe because the holder of that cache might fear for their life now?

There are plenty of reasons. Maybe the holder decided to keep it and use it for their own financial benefit.

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Response to infullview (Reply #12)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 01:12 PM

16. I think his insurance policy expired.His face in that photo of him as he was carted off to prison...

...was that of a man staring Death in the eyes.

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Response to PCIntern (Original post)

Sat Nov 30, 2019, 10:01 PM

19. Epstein could've ruined Trump.

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