Fri Nov 29, 2019, 05:24 PM
applegrove (111,166 posts)
Sustained Coverage of Clinton Emails Impacted Voters
Sustained Coverage of Clinton Emails Impacted Voters
November 29, 2019 at 1:13 pm EST By Taegan Goddard 82 Comments https://politicalwire.com/2019/11/29/sustained-coverage-of-clinton-emails-impacted-voters/ "SNIP..... A new study from the University of Michigan and Georgetown found that sustained negative media coverage of the Hillary Clinton email scandal drove voters’ open-ended responses about the 2016 presidential race and favorability toward the candidates. “The fact that this one story dominated the narrative about Clinton seemed to have an effect on voters… On the other hand, people remembered many different news stories about Donald Trump over time. These stories appeared and disappeared quickly, and no one story made a big impression on respondents.” ......SNIP"
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applegrove | Nov 2019 | OP |
Kurt V. | Nov 2019 | #1 | |
triron | Nov 2019 | #2 | |
Wellstone ruled | Nov 2019 | #3 | |
FiveGoodMen | Nov 2019 | #6 | |
triron | Nov 2019 | #12 | |
Hermit-The-Prog | Nov 2019 | #23 | |
DURHAM D | Nov 2019 | #4 | |
NCLefty | Nov 2019 | #5 | |
rainin | Nov 2019 | #7 | |
machoneman | Nov 2019 | #8 | |
groundloop | Nov 2019 | #18 | |
Farmer-Rick | Nov 2019 | #9 | |
Botany | Nov 2019 | #10 | |
orleans | Nov 2019 | #17 | |
hibbing | Nov 2019 | #11 | |
Botany | Nov 2019 | #13 | |
SMC22307 | Nov 2019 | #20 | |
uponit7771 | Nov 2019 | #24 | |
Xolodno | Nov 2019 | #14 | |
Karadeniz | Nov 2019 | #15 | |
KY_EnviroGuy | Nov 2019 | #16 | |
Kablooie | Nov 2019 | #19 | |
GETPLANING | Nov 2019 | #21 | |
spanone | Nov 2019 | #22 |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 05:27 PM
Kurt V. (5,624 posts)
1. no shit. one of the biggest fails of msm ever. Especially the nyt.
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 05:27 PM
triron (20,901 posts)
2. More evidence of the media's bias.
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 05:49 PM
Wellstone ruled (34,661 posts)
3. Talk about MSM being duped
at a price by the GRU and Putin. But,they made a ton.
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Response to Wellstone ruled (Reply #3)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 06:17 PM
FiveGoodMen (20,018 posts)
6. "But, they made a ton."
So they weren't really duped.
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Response to FiveGoodMen (Reply #6)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 06:44 PM
triron (20,901 posts)
12. How can you say that?!
Response to triron (Reply #12)
Sat Nov 30, 2019, 12:32 AM
Hermit-The-Prog (26,655 posts)
23. they were tickled shitless to get the money
See, e.g., http://www.politico.com/blogs/on-media/2016/02/les-moonves-trump-cbs-220001
They knew the effects of what they were doing, but did it anyway for the money. |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 05:57 PM
DURHAM D (32,073 posts)
4. which is why I am worried about Hunter and Ukraine coverage. nt
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 06:01 PM
NCLefty (3,678 posts)
5. See: Joe Scarborough.
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 06:19 PM
rainin (2,948 posts)
7. It's all they had, so they played it over and over. Meanwhile, trump
offended daily. The media needed a horse race. They needed to appear unbiased - both sides are doing it. The media doesn't know what to do with an unequal field. Everyone acted like reporting the truth, that republicans nominated a sociopath, was biased.
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 06:23 PM
machoneman (3,284 posts)
8. Yes, and we can learn from this! A steady drum-beat of impeachment against Trump should....
have the same negative effect, eh?
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Response to machoneman (Reply #8)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 08:07 PM
groundloop (10,864 posts)
18. Hope so... I hate to say it but we need to use impeachment hearings to the best political advantage
The sad truth is that there are so so many horrible stories to tell about tRump, so that it's nearly impossible to focus on any one of them for more than a day or two. The Ukrainian scandal managed to keep peoples attention up until a week ago, we need for the next round to carry on for quite some time.
Yes, in an ideal world these hearings wouldn't have a political purpose other than exposing the truth. But in an ideal world we'd have a Senate Majority Leader that was more interested in doing his job than in protecting a crooked president. |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 06:30 PM
Farmer-Rick (8,097 posts)
9. And Comey's stupid letter in October
All the while he knew about Traitor Trump's Russian money laundering.
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 06:34 PM
Botany (66,838 posts)
10. "the Hillary Clinton email scandal"
The real scandal was that there was no real "Hillary Clinton email scandal." And the Russians, the media, and
the GOP pushed that bullshit 24/7. Step up and take a bow Mr. James Comey, Matt Lauer, the NY Times, Morning Joe, CNN, and so on. BTW did i ever tell you about 2004 where John Kerry w/3 purple hearts, a bronze star, and a silver star was branded a coward? |
Response to Botany (Reply #10)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 07:53 PM
orleans (31,918 posts)
17. you stated it perfectly! ALL of it n/t
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 06:41 PM
hibbing (9,469 posts)
11. Wait until you hear Hunter Biden and Burisma 100,000 times n/t
Response to hibbing (Reply #11)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 06:50 PM
Botany (66,838 posts)
13. and don't forget, "what about the whistleblower?"
“If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it. The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth is the greatest enemy of the State.” J. Goebbels
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Response to hibbing (Reply #11)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 08:37 PM
SMC22307 (8,037 posts)
20. EXACTLY. It worked with 'the e-mails', it'll work with Two Bidens & a Burisma.
Biden supporters don't seem willing to accept that.
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 07:02 PM
Xolodno (5,601 posts)
14. Another, lets file this under "No Shit Sherlock".
If Trump was leading the race, the media would have been on top of him like flies on shit. Close election races put butts in couches in front of the TV, end of story and that's what they want.
Trump manipulated the media perfectly by making them the "enemy" and thus all the shit he did was dismissed by average Joe and Jane Schmoe. Particularly when they didn't do due diligence and investigate him even more. But if Hillary so much as farted, they talked how much it reaked non stop. |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 07:21 PM
Karadeniz (18,351 posts)
15. Well, duh, I got to the point that I wanted to scream every time she was interviewed and the
First question was the emails. "She's answered that a million times, nitwit...move on!"
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Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 07:36 PM
KY_EnviroGuy (14,175 posts)
16. This effect is due to the enormous mass and nearly total unity of the RW press.
If one takes the individual components of their public and social media system, no one of them controls America's daily dialog very much, with the possible exception of Faux News. None of them would keep repeating a story over and over unless commanded to do so. If left alone, each would run about chasing the next shiny object story in order to be competitive.
However, commanded they are. Once the basic story is out and widespread, their organizations know to keep it on repeat literally forever. Many people say the primary scripts for the stories they want to dominate come out of a few hard right-wing think tanks such as Heritage Foundation and AEI. So it does appear to be well coordinated. When we take the huge combined mass of all their media venues and they're all singing the same song, the message becomes dominant quite quickly in our daily dialog. That mass includes Fox, Facebook and Twitter and hundreds of talk radio stations on repeat every day, including those carrying Limbaugh. Then, there's print newspapers and internet blogs as well. We also know almost all remaining media outlets are profit mongers having many Republicans on their boards of directors. Almost all are scared shitless to call out Republican lies for fear of retribution. KY.......... ![]() |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 08:24 PM
Kablooie (18,028 posts)
19. One reason for a continued big push on the Ukraine story instead of multiple Trump stories.
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 08:39 PM
GETPLANING (846 posts)
21. This has been the Republican strategy for years
Keep accusing the opposition of corruption. They were already trying to build the same narrative against Joe Biden. Years of "The Latest On The Investigation Of Burisma And The Bidens" on page 1.
Then, a few years later, on page 16, there would have been a story titled, "Investigation of Joe Biden Finds No Wrongdoing." Oh, OK. |
Response to applegrove (Original post)
Fri Nov 29, 2019, 08:41 PM
spanone (132,903 posts)
22. $2 Billion Worth of Free Media for Donald Trump
Of all the ways Donald Trump has shocked the political system, one of the most significant is how he wins primary after primary with one of the smallest campaign budgets.
He still doesn’t have a super PAC. He skimped on ground organization and field offices. Most important, he spent less on television advertising — typically the single biggest expenditure for a campaign — than any other major candidate, according to an analysis by SMG Delta, a firm that tracks television advertising. But Mr. Trump is hardly absent from the airwaves. Like all candidates, he benefits from what is known as earned media: news and commentary about his campaign on television, in newspapers and magazines, and on social media. Earned media typically dwarfs paid media in a campaign. The big difference between Mr. Trump and other candidates is that he is far better than any other candidate — maybe than any candidate ever — at earning media. No one knows this better than mediaQuant, a firm that tracks media coverage of each candidate and computes a dollar value based on advertising rates. The mentions are weighted by the reach of the media source, meaning how many people were likely to see it. The calculation also includes traditional media of all types, print, broadcast or otherwise, as well as online-only sources like Facebook, Twitter or Reddit. https://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/16/upshot/measuring-donald-trumps-mammoth-advantage-in-free-media.html ![]() ![]() |