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Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:41 AM

***IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARING NOV 20 THREAD 3***








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Reply ***IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY HEARING NOV 20 THREAD 3*** (Original post)
crickets Nov 20 OP
crickets Nov 20 #1
demmiblue Nov 20 #2
Bucky Nov 20 #18
crickets Nov 20 #53
Bucky Nov 20 #3
nolabear Nov 20 #9
Pacifist Patriot Nov 20 #11
nolabear Nov 20 #13
klook Nov 20 #27
Roland99 Nov 20 #4
BumRushDaShow Nov 20 #5
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 20 #8
BumRushDaShow Nov 20 #15
crickets Nov 20 #21
Botany Nov 20 #6
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 20 #16
nolabear Nov 20 #7
ancianita Nov 20 #10
uponit7771 Nov 20 #12
Roland99 Nov 20 #14
Pacifist Patriot Nov 20 #19
DeminPennswoods Nov 20 #63
Mersky Nov 20 #17
polichick Nov 20 #20
klook Nov 20 #38
mahatmakanejeeves Nov 20 #22
mucifer Nov 20 #23
ancianita Nov 20 #24
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 20 #25
mucifer Nov 20 #26
BumRushDaShow Nov 20 #28
polichick Nov 20 #29
ancianita Nov 20 #35
polichick Nov 20 #43
Roland99 Nov 20 #30
crickets Nov 20 #32
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 20 #34
crickets Nov 20 #45
obamanut2012 Nov 20 #98
extvbroadcaster Nov 20 #31
uponit7771 Nov 20 #33
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 20 #48
DeminPennswoods Nov 20 #52
gristy Nov 20 #36
oswaldactedalone Nov 20 #37
mucifer Nov 20 #40
padah513 Nov 20 #44
crickets Nov 20 #61
Botany Nov 20 #39
ancianita Nov 20 #46
Roland99 Nov 20 #55
DeminPennswoods Nov 20 #59
ancianita Nov 20 #69
DeminPennswoods Nov 20 #83
ancianita Nov 20 #90
DeminPennswoods Nov 20 #115
ancianita Nov 20 #116
DeminPennswoods Nov 20 #119
ancianita Nov 20 #122
asiliveandbreathe Nov 20 #41
uponit7771 Nov 20 #42
mucifer Nov 20 #49
mindfulNJ Nov 20 #50
backtoblue Nov 20 #54
crickets Nov 20 #64
madaboutharry Nov 20 #58
uponit7771 Nov 20 #60
madaboutharry Nov 20 #47
uponit7771 Nov 20 #56
Polly Hennessey Nov 20 #51
BumRushDaShow Nov 20 #57
Roland99 Nov 20 #62
BumRushDaShow Nov 20 #73
crickets Nov 20 #74
uponit7771 Nov 20 #82
BumRushDaShow Nov 20 #65
The Velveteen Ocelot Nov 20 #70
BumRushDaShow Nov 20 #78
Roland99 Nov 20 #75
Roland99 Nov 20 #77
ancianita Nov 20 #66
polichick Nov 20 #67
padah513 Nov 20 #71
Pacifist Patriot Nov 20 #76
uponit7771 Nov 20 #68
Pacifist Patriot Nov 20 #72
mucifer Nov 20 #79
Pacifist Patriot Nov 20 #81
Politicub Nov 20 #94
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 20 #80
C_U_L8R Nov 20 #84
crickets Nov 20 #85
Claritie Pixie Nov 20 #91
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 20 #86
DeminPennswoods Nov 20 #87
padah513 Nov 20 #96
gristy Nov 20 #88
demmiblue Nov 20 #89
Roland99 Nov 20 #92
KWR65 Nov 20 #93
Politicub Nov 20 #95
uponit7771 Nov 20 #99
wnylib Nov 20 #113
mucifer Nov 20 #100
crickets Nov 20 #101
padah513 Nov 20 #103
Bettie Nov 20 #107
uponit7771 Nov 20 #97
crickets Nov 20 #102
demmiblue Nov 20 #104
extvbroadcaster Nov 20 #105
Marthe48 Nov 20 #106
Hortensis Nov 20 #111
brooklynite Nov 20 #108
Marthe48 Nov 20 #109
extvbroadcaster Nov 20 #110
Pacifist Patriot Nov 20 #112
kairos12 Nov 20 #114
Wawannabe Nov 20 #121
DeminPennswoods Nov 20 #117
Claritie Pixie Nov 20 #118
DeminPennswoods Nov 20 #120

Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:41 AM

1. Bump

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:43 AM

2. I joke but, my God, how low we have fallen as a nation under Trump. How shameful.

I joke but, my God, how low we have fallen as a nation under Trump. How shameful. We still haven't reached the bottom.

"Loves your ass." Trumpspeak. 3 letter words. 4 letter words. Quid pro quo. A$AP Rocky. This is the Presidency that 60 million thought would make them great again. Are you not entertained?



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Response to demmiblue (Reply #2)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:47 AM

18. Honestly, it's not the crude language. It's the extortion.

It's the politicization of foreign aid to trash his expected Democratic rival for 2020. Harry Truman cussed up a blue streak, but always served the nation and the Constitution.

It's the bite, not the bark, that betrays the country.

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Response to Bucky (Reply #18)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:59 AM

53. Well said. nt

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:43 AM

3. What's the manbaby twittering?

Or are his manbabysitters managing to keep him away from his "smart"phone

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Response to Bucky (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:45 AM

9. Utter silence. Rumor has it he's tied to a chair.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #9)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:46 AM

11. That may very well be a porcelain throne.

He has to be shitting himself!

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #11)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:46 AM

13. 😂😂😂

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Response to Bucky (Reply #3)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:51 AM

27. I'm waiting for "I don't really know the gentleman." (nt)

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:43 AM

4. So. Sondland has stated there was a quid pro quo but keeps trying to evade

saying it again outside of his opening statement when itís obvious thatís the intent behind more of his conversations with Taylor, Morrison, et al

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:43 AM

5. I just posted in the other thread that there was something about him that reminds me of

Felix Sater (and the slime factor)!

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #5)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:44 AM

8. he's completely for hire -- except he has a strong sense of self-preservation

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:46 AM

15. Yup. That pretty much sums it up!

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #8)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:47 AM

21. This. This man is slimy, but he's not nearly as slimy as the scum

he is taking down. I just hope his testimony holds. Let this man walk if he can just get everyone else on the hook.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:43 AM

6. Bus Music ... Sen. Johnson, Pence, Pompeo, Rudy, & Mulvanay

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Response to Botany (Reply #6)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:46 AM

16. the wheels on the bus are spinning in air -- too many bodies under the frame

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:44 AM

7. It's too early on the W Coast for me to be laughing this hard.

Can we request Devin cam to see what he looks like right now? 😂

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:45 AM

10. "Everything about Ukraine is Giuliani. I'm just an unwitting accomplice."

And where's Rudy been lately?

"The only thing I know is that the "investigation" must be announced publicly. President Trump presumably spoke through Mr. Giuliani."

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:46 AM

12. LOL !! Sondland is driving a monster truck bus ... he's rolling over everyone !!!

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:46 AM

14. Sondland saying Ukraine investigations only needed to be announced publicly

Since Ukraine has a history of not following thru

Backs up yesterdayís testimony from Volker / Morrison

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #14)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:47 AM

19. And what I've thought since the call become public knowledge.

It was always about a smear, not substance.

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #19)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:02 AM

63. Agree with this

assessment.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:47 AM

17. My Granny's watching the hearing like a champ

She decided she wants to postpone our plans today, because she's all caught up in the testimony.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:47 AM

20. Slurp...

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Response to polichick (Reply #20)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:55 AM

38. Is that a picture of Marco Rubio? (nt)

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:48 AM

22. Based on Sondland testimony, House is fully entitled to hear from, at a minimum: Pompeo, Bolton,...

Kevin M. Kruse Retweeted

Based on Sondland testimony, House is fully entitled to hear from, at a minimum: Pompeo, Bolton,Mulvaney. Oh, and Vice President Pence.


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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:49 AM

23. I want Bolton's testimony

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #22)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:49 AM

24. They won't get any of them before this committee. They're 45-over-impeachment process.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:50 AM

25. Sondland matches speed of questioner, will fail under Jacketoff questioning

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #25)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:51 AM

26. I agree.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:52 AM

28. Now he's admitting the quid pro quo to the aid

(and not just the meeting)

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:52 AM

29. This guy might shit his pants on the stand before it's over.

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Response to polichick (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:55 AM

35. Looks to me that he's looking like, "y'all really got nothin', you know that, right?"

Whatever your 2+2=4 logic is, dudes.


Bottom line: "President Trump never told me directly that aid was conditioned on announcement of elections.

The only direct Giuliani statement was this was about the 2020 elections. "

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Response to ancianita (Reply #35)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:56 AM

43. He's acting - watch his jiggling body and water slurping.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:53 AM

30. FYI - both MOOnes and Gym have left the room and returned

Getting new talking points?

Having to change their underwear?

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:54 AM

32. Yep, they're burning up the cell towers to the WH getting new talking points. nt

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #30)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:54 AM

34. new orders from Agolf Twitler

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:57 AM

45. *snerk* good one!

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #34)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:17 AM

98. stealing

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:53 AM

31. Sondland trying to get out of this mess

The guy gave a million bucks to Trump, found out he was in the middle of a scandal and now wants out. "Everybody was in the loop" is his way of saying "I'm not going down for this" - I bet he just wants to go back to being a rich guy and regrets ever getting involved with Trump. Join the club, moron! Trump is a dirtbag that always dirties everything and everybody.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:54 AM

33. +1, Sondland paid a mill for his position and all he got was a Tshirt with an inmate number on it

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #33)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:57 AM

48. HA! thanks for that laugh!

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Reply #31)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:58 AM

52. Boy, howdy is your post spot on!

I really feel sorry for Sondland. He obviously paid his 1M for an ambassadorship that would be fun, not require much real work, get to host and attend lots of parties and just generally have a good time among people of similar social status to himself. Now he's in this nightmare from trying to please Trump et al and doesn't know how to get out of it.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:55 AM

36. when Nunes and minority counsel are recognized, they're going to hit Sondland on lack of notetaking

I don't think it's going to get them very far, but we'll see...

majority counsel is doing a really good job right now.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:55 AM

37. Sondland perjuring himself?

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Response to oswaldactedalone (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:56 AM

40. seems like it to me.

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Response to oswaldactedalone (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:56 AM

44. If not yet

He's close to it

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Response to oswaldactedalone (Reply #37)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:01 AM

61. This is what I was afraid of - starts strong, can't hold it together. nt

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:56 AM

39. Senator Goldman?

The man has skills.

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Response to Botany (Reply #39)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:57 AM

46. Except that his meticulous questioning isn't getting much from Sondland.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #46)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:00 AM

55. Sondland being quite evasive despite laying it all out in his opening stmt

And heís trying to protect trump it seems, yet throw everyone else under the bus

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Response to ancianita (Reply #46)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:01 AM

59. Goldman's being a bit too adversarial and his frustration is coming across

Sondland's a friendly, back-slapping type guy. A friendlier approach would be getting more out of Sondland, imho.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #59)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:03 AM

69. I seriously doubt that Sondland falls for any happy horseshit style.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #69)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:07 AM

83. I think you catch more flies with honey than vinegar

I don't think this was Goldman's best work. And, I don't think Schiff helped the cause by taking 10 minutes for himself off the top.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #83)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:11 AM

90. Nice belief that doesn't apply to someone who's already a master of honey over vinegar.

Schiff's break might be time to verify that the Repubs just talked to the White House for talking points, which is process tampering by the executive branch. Just speculating about their penchant for keeping an eye on the executive's continued obstruction and abuse of power.

It's more than it appears, is all I'm saying.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #90)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:43 AM

115. JMO, but starting off with a "thank you for your service..."

etc makes the witness feel comfortable. After all, Sondland could have declined to appear as he was told to do by the WH/State Dept.

Coming out swinging makes a witness uncomfortable and defensive and adds to whatever stress the witness is already feeling.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #115)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:46 AM

116. I hear you. But it's their call. The guy looks anything but stressed, from what I can see.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #116)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:51 AM

119. Of course

I'm not a lawyer and it is their call.

I could see what Schiff and Goldman were trying to elicit - a confirmation of the call in the restaurant. Sondland couldn't remember it and it was frustrating for Schiff and Goldman to have to try a few different ways to get the testimony they wanted. Sondland sorta, kinda admitted it, but it wasn't exactly what they wanted.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #119)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:55 AM

122. I like the idea of calling him sorta Sondland. The only thing he's revealed is "everyone" was

"in the loop."

All of those "in the loop," from GS's show of lack of awareness of plans and goals, sounds like a feckless front group for Trump.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:56 AM

41. To mute, or not to mute - that is the question..when moonez takes over..

Someone here mentioned a Duncan cap....

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:56 AM

42. Crap, FAUX News just got there soundbite from Sondland

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:57 AM

49. Yeah I think Sonland isn't too bright and nunes and jordan will eat him for lunch

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:57 AM

50. Yup

That's all the sheeple will hear from Fox about this entire testimony.

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:59 AM

54. He's "not recalling" conversations with trump

His statement earlier of "it would refresh his memory if the state dept releases documents" is interesting .

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Response to backtoblue (Reply #54)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:02 AM

64. Good point, I hope the Dems remember this for later questions. nt

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #42)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:00 AM

58. It doesn't matter much what Fox reports.

Trump didn't say it to him directly, but it was all coming from Trump.

Sondland says he was absolutely convinced it was coming from Trump.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #58)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:01 AM

60. +1, More accurately its coming from Rudy I think someone from the WH just tweeted something

... about Rudy and it looks like they're going to throw Rudy under the bus and act like Trump didn't say anything.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:57 AM

47. One thing we can be certain of

is that during the 5 minute questioning there will be a lot of republicans screaming at Sondland.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #47)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:00 AM

56. +1, this is where Jordan strips, hits the pole and starts twerkin KGOP don't have anything else

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 10:58 AM

51. "Water, water everywhere..."

and Sondland is drinking it all. Mr. Chairman, Mr. Chairman, potty break, please.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:00 AM

57. He's all over the map now

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #57)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:02 AM

62. He's protecting trump at this point

Refusing to specifically name him as the source of the requirement for the investigations despite having said he was certain there was a quid pro quo re: investigations and aid

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #62)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:04 AM

73. Yup. That was the obvious take-away.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #62)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:04 AM

74. It's odd. Earlier he had no problem tossing Trump under the bus. nt

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #62)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:07 AM

82. +1, looks like the goal is to make claims we can agree with but not implicate Trump directly on ...

... anything.

"I think" or "I surmise" is different from "Trump said"

Looks like the former MO senator thinks the same thing !!

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:02 AM

65. **** 5 - 10 MINUTE BREAK **** MOO MOO WILL BE UP AFTER

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #65)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:03 AM

70. After all the water Sondland was drinking he'll need all 10 minutes

just to pee.

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Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #70)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:05 AM

78. LOL

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #65)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:04 AM

75. Is that Stewart hovering over Gym? Who was the woman they were talking to

MOOnes didnít look thrilled.

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Response to Roland99 (Reply #75)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:05 AM

77. Gym and Castor now likely forming a game plan of gotcha questions

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:02 AM

66. All the Repubs need is "I don't recall." They'll not press him.

"By Sept 8, I still believed, from a timeframe standpoint, that aid was contingent... but I never heard it from Trump directly..."

That's what the Repubs will care about.

Goldman says: Do you agree?

Sondland says: I believe you are correct.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:03 AM

67. The RepubliCONs look pretty freaked out.

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Response to polichick (Reply #67)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:04 AM

71. Did you see Nunes' face?

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Response to padah513 (Reply #71)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:05 AM

76. Just posted that. Don't think I've ever seen him look like that before.

Jordan still looks oddly gleeful and manic talking to Castor.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:03 AM

68. LOFL !! The KGOP .... DOES NOT ... look encouraged !!!

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:04 AM

72. Nunes face when Schiff announced the break. Holy crap.

Now the Republicans are having a little frantic conference around Jordan.

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #72)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:05 AM

79. They will do their best to make him look stupid.

We shall see how that works.

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Response to mucifer (Reply #79)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:06 AM

81. Think they'll ask him to out the whistleblower?

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Response to mucifer (Reply #79)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:13 AM

94. And he is Trump's appointee. People know this. Even the GOP, though

they will not acknowledge the gravity of what that means.

And Trump directed Galliani. He hired Giuliani as his hit man. I hope Sondland throws Bolton under the bus a few times because Boltonís ego will compel him to appear before the committee to protect his reputation.

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #72)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:06 AM

80. they'll ask Sondland if he ever convicted Trump of bribery

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #72)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:09 AM

84. He makes these comical sad sloth movements

Complete with eyerolls and cheek puffs. Dork.

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #72)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:10 AM

85. I just caught up - his FACE. Nunes knows it could well be over today. Over. nt

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Response to Pacifist Patriot (Reply #72)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:12 AM

91. I saw that! What a look he gave the guy beside him. Made me laugh with glee!

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:10 AM

86. Schiff sums it up to press during break

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:10 AM

87. Who's the "blue tie guy" sitting

behind Sondland's left (looking forward) shoulder? His face is pretty expressive. I caught a couple of eye rolls while I was watching.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #87)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:16 AM

96. Lawyer I think

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:11 AM

88. Great statement in the hallway by Schiff at the break between Majoring and Minority questioning

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:11 AM

89. Bret Baier on Sondland's testimony: "On its face it's very damaging to some of the arguments the GOP

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #89)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:12 AM

92. On its face, under its skin, and deep in its bones!

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:13 AM

93. Sondland: I don't recall, but I never mentioned Biden's name.

If he doesn't remember then why does he know he never mentioned Biden?

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Response to KWR65 (Reply #93)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:16 AM

95. The talking head on NBC said that Sondland is making it sound like

he was the most incurious diplomat of all time considering he was in the midst of everything swirling around him.

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Response to Politicub (Reply #95)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:17 AM

99. +1, Sondland doesn't want to point to Red Don directly on anything. They're not slick !!!

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Response to Politicub (Reply #95)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:17 AM

100. that's why he was hired for that post between the money and him being unqualified they

thought they had the perfect lackey.

That did not work out for them

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Response to Politicub (Reply #95)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:19 AM

101. Yes. Also MSNBC is dinging him for his lack of contrition; says it mars his cred a bit. nt

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Response to Politicub (Reply #95)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:20 AM

103. Yes and the funny thing is

That whenever anything was brought up regarding the investigations, he was usually the one who initiated the conversation.

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Response to Politicub (Reply #95)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:22 AM

107. Well, he didn't get the post to BE a diplomat

he's a rich dilettante who wanted to go to fancy parties and act important.

So, incurious isn't really a surprise in this case.

On the other hand, I'm really surprisingly sad that this is who we are now.

This is our nation: criminals running rampant with the explicit consent of a significant portion of our citizens and not a single Republican with the ethics to say "ENOUGH".

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:17 AM

97. MAGA Cult will hammer on ... EXPLICITNESS ... of Trump orders vs what Sondland surmises.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:20 AM

102. THREAD FOUR LIVE

Fresh thread for a fresh round of testimony

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212708897

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:21 AM

104. Castor: wtf can I do with that?

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:21 AM

105. I won't burn for you

Sondland seems to be saying "I won't burn for you" to Trump and anybody else. Serves his rich ass right. He bought an ambassadorship with a million bucks, and now finds out his ass is new mown grass.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:22 AM

106. sondland lacks nuanced thinking

He is flippant. He doesn't seem to have the outlook that the deal he was working on with the other crooks was so very illegal.

At least that's what I'm getting.

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Response to Marthe48 (Reply #106)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:27 AM

111. Yes. Coming in he had to be afraid but to me looked more pleased

at being the center of attention than anything else. And now as you say.

He's been told, and believes, his team's going to win. Arrogance.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:24 AM

108. And.....Devin Nunes decides to stick to the script...

Democrats worked with Ukraine to "get" Donald Trump

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:25 AM

109. commentators discussed the Biden investigation as show

Finally, they are describing what trumpskie really wanted: the announcement of an investigation, not an actual investigation.

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:27 AM

110. Nunes hits the talking points

Again, everybody is out to get Trump! Of course that explains everything! You wonder what kind of asshole Nunes has to be to act this way. Him and gym Jordan take the cake.

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Response to extvbroadcaster (Reply #110)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:33 AM

112. I wonder more about his breath.

Does he ever take a break from kissing ass?

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:37 AM

114. Sonland is throwing

binders full of men under the bus.

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Response to kairos12 (Reply #114)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:54 AM

121. ...



Hilarious!

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Response to crickets (Original post)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:46 AM

117. The best strategy for the Rs is to focus on Sondland's

testimony that he went through Rudy and did not actually hear it from Trump's lips that WH meeting and military aid was dependent on announcing investigations into Biden/Burisma/2016. That keeps their "hearsay" argument at least somewhat intact.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #117)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:48 AM

118. They can try that angle, but Sondland testified Trump directed everything.

No one will believe them except the MAGA cult.

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Response to Claritie Pixie (Reply #118)

Wed Nov 20, 2019, 11:52 AM

120. That's about the only angle the Rs have

But, of course, the "defense" is being directed by Trump which is why the Rs are forced to follow him down these ridiculous rabbit holes.

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