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Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:47 AM

*** Thread 4 IMPEACHMENT HEARING DAY 2**

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Legends303 Nov 15 #2
nolabear Nov 15 #3
Mersky Nov 15 #4
bdamomma Nov 15 #5
Mersky Nov 15 #6
Mersky Nov 15 #7
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 15 #8
Bernardo de La Paz Nov 15 #9
BumRushDaShow Nov 15 #10
BumRushDaShow Nov 15 #11
bdamomma Nov 15 #12
catbyte Nov 15 #13
BumRushDaShow Nov 15 #16
Mersky Nov 15 #14
crickets Nov 15 #21
Mersky Nov 15 #30
BumRushDaShow Nov 15 #15
BumRushDaShow Nov 15 #17
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 15 #22
mnhtnbb Nov 15 #18
Fresh_Start Nov 15 #29
BumRushDaShow Nov 15 #19
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 15 #20
BumRushDaShow Nov 15 #25
SKKY Nov 15 #23
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 15 #26
BumRushDaShow Nov 15 #27
Bettie Nov 15 #82
SKKY Nov 15 #140
Bettie Nov 15 #144
Mersky Nov 15 #24
crickets Nov 15 #28
nolabear Nov 15 #31
crickets Nov 15 #33
nolabear Nov 15 #36
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 15 #32
elleng Nov 15 #38
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 15 #41
AnotherMother4Peace Nov 15 #45
Ilsa Nov 15 #117
crickets Nov 15 #126
barbtries Nov 15 #34
Midnightwalk Nov 15 #35
nolabear Nov 15 #40
LaurenOlimina Nov 15 #37
Mme. Defarge Nov 15 #39
nolabear Nov 15 #42
crickets Nov 15 #49
SamKnause Nov 15 #43
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Bernardo de La Paz Nov 15 #56
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nolabear Nov 15 #48
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backtoblue Nov 15 #55
AnotherMother4Peace Nov 15 #90
nolabear Nov 15 #99
Midnightwalk Nov 15 #50
bdamomma Nov 15 #51
TlalocW Nov 15 #57
D_Master81 Nov 15 #52
Bernardo de La Paz Nov 15 #74
BumRushDaShow Nov 15 #58
MerryBlooms Nov 15 #61
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klook Nov 15 #68
crickets Nov 15 #73
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Mersky Nov 15 #60
Watchfoxheadexplodes Nov 15 #62
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elleng Nov 15 #77
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bdamomma Nov 15 #72
calimary Nov 16 #150
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catbyte Nov 15 #79
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crickets Nov 15 #85
jayschool2013 Nov 15 #103
blaze Nov 15 #88
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backtoblue Nov 15 #89
Politicub Nov 15 #91
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Arkansas Granny Nov 15 #94
crickets Nov 15 #96
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Midnightwalk Nov 15 #100
TlalocW Nov 15 #101
LaurenOlimina Nov 15 #107
crickets Nov 15 #115
Hermit-The-Prog Nov 15 #102
Miles Archer Nov 15 #104
nolabear Nov 15 #108
Mersky Nov 15 #105
nolabear Nov 15 #106
catbyte Nov 15 #109
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LaurenOlimina Nov 15 #112
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nolabear Nov 15 #114
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crickets Nov 15 #119
elleng Nov 15 #123
badhair77 Nov 15 #125
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bdamomma Nov 15 #141
bdamomma Nov 15 #139
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catbyte Nov 15 #143
Mersky Nov 15 #145
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crickets Nov 15 #147
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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:51 AM

1. K&R

nt

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:56 AM

2. It may be a smart politics for Republicans

To dismiss Yovanovitch as a partisan and normalize Trumpís behavior, though I donít how much that is going to work.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 11:59 AM

3. What a day! I'm never going to get my work done!

But itís worth it.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:05 PM

4. Idiotic callers on C-SPAN

Was saying Yovanovitch was overly emotional, and gave concern a ambassador would behave that way.

Good grief, she must not have watched the hearing, and only regurgitating fox spews. Ambassador Yovanovitch has remained collected, cogent, sincere, and credible throughout the hearing.
...

Oof, now some numbnut just promoted his deep state conspiracy site.

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Response to Mersky (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:16 PM

5. That's all they have

talking points and propaganda.

If someone can start new threads after this one I would be most grateful.

What a day!

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #5)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:18 PM

6. Yeah, it's infuriating.

Just figured Iíd document a bit of the experience.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:19 PM

7. Here we go! Schiff is about to speak.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:19 PM

8. ABC back covering it

PBS stayed on during the break

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:20 PM

9. Republican no-shows? Empty chairs on panel?

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:20 PM

10. About to start again - she has just walked into the room and is seated.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

11. Time to hit MUTE - NUMNUT NUNES on.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:22 PM

12. Nunez

mute button on.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:23 PM

13. Sprinting for the mute button...

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Response to catbyte (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:25 PM

16. !!!!!!!!!

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:24 PM

14. Nunes is obsessed with that basement.

Whatta paranoid loon.

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Response to Mersky (Reply #14)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

21. Hearings are hardly "secret" when he is free to attend

along with other Repubs on the pertinent committees, and the whole world has transcripts within days.

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Response to crickets (Reply #21)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:30 PM

30. I despise their neverending theater of playing dumb.

Nunes broke his oath so long ago, that anything goes with him.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:24 PM

15. NUNES BULLSHIT

but it seems that he has taken more tranquilizers.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:25 PM

17. Schiff is SMACKING down the idiot from NY for violating the rules

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

22. yep. rules decided before today

They knew it. Broke 'em anyway for show.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

18. Nunez starts right out as an asshole

by congratulating the Ambassador on graduating from the secret basement interview room.

You could see her thinking she will need all her skills of diplomacy to sit and not tell him what she thinks of him.

Nap time for me.

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Response to mnhtnbb (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:30 PM

29. She should make a point

that truth doesn't matter which location...basement or public hearing. Truth is the same.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

19. THEY HAVE NOTHING

They keep passing the torch and now have their lawyer on.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:26 PM

20. even I know it's either Nunes or Castor time, not anybody else

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:28 PM

25. I'm guessing that in the future, McCarthy will remove Nunes from that ranking member position

and shove Gymsuit there.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

23. Good lord! This guy Castor is not good. Not good at all.

He doesn't seem to want to be there.

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Response to SKKY (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:28 PM

26. doesn't know what he wants to ask!

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Response to SKKY (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:28 PM

27. Because they don't have anything and probably heard what happened with Roger Stone!

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Response to SKKY (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:00 PM

82. Any decent lawyer would have turned this gig down

So, they are left with the B or C list.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #82)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:35 PM

140. I'm guessing that's why they have the most frighteningly mediocre lawyer...

...asking questions.

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Response to SKKY (Reply #140)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:39 PM

144. At least some of the really bad ones

are entertaining.

This guy is the verbal equivalent of lukewarm plain oatmeal sitting in a warmer on a hotel buffet.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:27 PM

24. Hey, kids, it's time for the hearsay shuffle

Nunes to Stefinik.

Now, over to the weenie in a suit, Castor.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:29 PM

28. Wow, Stefanik and Nunes are not going by the rules

and Schiff is not having it. Only Nunes and counsel are allowed to question now; other reps only get 5 minute intervals later. I guess they were trying to get her to do it, since their lawyer is so at sea.

Nope!

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Response to crickets (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:30 PM

31. Schiff is a hero. I hope he gets all the credit he deserves.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:33 PM

33. Agreed! He is running a tight ship and that's exactly what we need. nt

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Response to crickets (Reply #33)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:34 PM

36. No kidding. We need protection from their chaos.

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Response to crickets (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:32 PM

32. it's the "We're victims of meanie Democrats!" show

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #32)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:35 PM

38. Right, blame Dems 'cause they don't 'get' the rules.

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Response to elleng (Reply #38)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:36 PM

41. more like, they know their constituents don't 'get' the rules

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #32)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:39 PM

45. reminds me of 2nd graders ganging up to break the rules & challenge authority. nt

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Response to crickets (Reply #28)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:16 PM

117. They know the optics of a man attacking her are bad, so

they wanted their only token congresswoman to attack her.

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Response to Ilsa (Reply #117)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:21 PM

126. +1

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:33 PM

34. this republican lawyer is not good.

"all the best people" they're scraping the bottom of the barrel.

the best people in reality are over this president. most of them if not all always were. just watching him go down the escalator was plenty for me. his pathology, demagoguery, mendacity, and personality disorders were observable from the get.

i'm starting to think that this lawyer's goal is to make the hearing boring by talking about meaningless shit. that's what you do when you got nothing at all.

i'm reminded of an adolescent kid trying to make conversation with a pretty girl. not sure why but that's what comes to mind.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:33 PM

35. Schiff shut them up again and stuck with their lawyer

Poor nunes who has to attend double secret meetings in the basement and whines about the public version of those meetings that all these committee members attend.

Then stefnik. Itís the fifth time she was interrupted for speaking when she isnít recognized by the chair. Schiff looked like heíd be happy to interrupt and shut her up another dozen times.

Now weíre back to their weaseling lawyer. That guy has a permanent sneer. Heís busy asking her to come up with corrupt reasons trump wanted her removed and confirming that Taylor is a man of integrity.

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Response to Midnightwalk (Reply #35)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:36 PM

40. She's doing really well. Not playing into his innuendos.

He seems to be trying to set her up. Makes me very suspicious. Sheís doing great though.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:34 PM

37. Castor establishes the integrity of the Dems star witness...

...astounding.

This guy is awful.

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Response to LaurenOlimina (Reply #37)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:35 PM

39. He seems to be making the Democrats' case!

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Response to LaurenOlimina (Reply #37)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:36 PM

42. He's up to something...he might underestimate her.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #42)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:41 PM

49. He keeps trying to load the questions, put words in her mouth

to a degree. She's doing a good job of questioning that, asking for clarification, and turning it back to him.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:38 PM

43. I wouldn't hire Castor to represent me.

He is absolutely terrible.

His scowling frowning face is a distraction.

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Response to SamKnause (Reply #43)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

80. That's a furrowed brow, doncha know? It signifies seriousness and concern. nt

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:39 PM

44. Just tuned. She asked HIM a question!?! Then he, a lawyer, asked WHY not?

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:40 PM

46. This counsel seems to be working against the GOP

DEEEEEP STAAAATE!

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Response to budkin (Reply #46)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:45 PM

56. Yeah, but he's trying to put out she wasn't involved & wasn't fired by Giuliani gang actions.


In process, he has accepted that there was a "concerted campaign against" Yovanovich, including Giuliani and the two indicted would-be-escapees.



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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:40 PM

47. Adam Schiff

for Attorney General in the new Democratic Presidentís administration. Iíd love to see him run for President in the future, but he is sorely needed as AG to help restore the absolute trashing of the Rule of Law by Trump and his lackeys, in particular the corrupt faux AG Barr.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:41 PM

48. This sounds like a setup of some kind. I'm very suspicious.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #48)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:44 PM

53. Normally I would agree

but it seems they are having some issues trying to find some strategy other than "hearsay hearsay hearsay". It does sound like he is aiming to determine why she didn't make a fuss about what she saw happening around her and reporting that.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #48)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:44 PM

54. Hard to set-up someone telling the truth.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #48)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:45 PM

55. Hes trying to get her to say anything that would justify her removal

Shes doing a great job of explaining each point

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Response to nolabear (Reply #48)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:03 PM

90. I'm also suspicious of a setup, but there doesn't seem to be a knock down & times running out. nt

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Response to AnotherMother4Peace (Reply #90)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:07 PM

99. True. And now Schiff has the chance to "clarify."

I love his clarifications.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:43 PM

50. This guy castro is not good

Heís getting her to talk about a corrupt sounding oil deal and the corrupt former prosecutor

Now about how the attempts to remove her disrupted us policy aims.

I guess Iíll have to wait for nunes and jordan to connect the dots. Iím not getting what story heís trying to tell. Maybe that she should have fought harder against the campaign against her? Itís her fault?

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:43 PM

51. What is Castor

doing gasping for air??? Repigs have nothing.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #51)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:45 PM

57. Wouldn't it be something that Castor

Is just getting caught up in what she's talking about and wants to learn more, and forgetting he's supposed to be doing a hatchet job?

TlalocW

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:44 PM

52. Now I see why they didn't want to go to their lawyer

Sheesh.

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Response to D_Master81 (Reply #52)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:55 PM

74. HE is their lawyer. Schiff shut the Representative Stefanik who was ready to Gish Gallop. . . . nt

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:45 PM

58. He seems to now be focussing on "corruption"

probably to suggest that Drumpf only held the money due to "corruption".

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #58)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:47 PM

61. He's leading into Biden conspiracy theory

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Response to MerryBlooms (Reply #61)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:49 PM

64. Yes but what is happening is that the truth will blow up the CT.

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Response to MerryBlooms (Reply #61)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:52 PM

68. BURISMA BURISMA BURISMA!!1!1

What a surprise...

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Response to MerryBlooms (Reply #61)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:55 PM

73. He's certainly taking his time.

Rather than lull anyone into complacency during the journey, I think it's going to backfire. There's no 'there' there.

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Response to crickets (Reply #73)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:59 PM

81. He's swirling down the drain.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:45 PM

59. Great, their guy establishes Pompeo's awareness

This is the worst lawyer I've ever seen.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:47 PM

60. You can't even talk about corruption in Russia

Says the ambassador in contrast to the ability to address corruption in Ukraine. That corruption is part of the Soviet legacy.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:47 PM

62. I see where castor oil gets its name

No bathrooms open on the break he looks very constipated.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:49 PM

63. Biden Burisma, Burisma Biden over and over and over ugh n/t

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:49 PM

65. Somewhere in the future--


I hope to hear/read about her personal thoughts on being in this position.

Another thought; maybe as a senatorial candidate?

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Response to JohnnyLib2 (Reply #65)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

70. What state is she from?

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Response to unitedwethrive (Reply #70)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:57 PM

77. Canada

Marie Yovanovitch is the daughter of Mikhail Yovanovitch and Nadia (Theokritoff) Yovanovitch,[5] who fled the Soviet Union and later the Nazis.[3] She was born in Canada, moved to Connecticut at age three, and became a naturalized American citizen at age eighteen. She grew up speaking Russian.[3]

Yovanovitch graduated from the Kent School in Connecticut in 1976; her parents were longtime foreign language teachers at the school.[6] Yovanovitch earned a B.A. in History and Russian Studies from Princeton University in 1980.[7] She studied at the Pushkin Institute (1980) and was awarded an M.S. from the National Defense University's National War College in 2001.[7]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marie_Yovanovitch

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Response to elleng (Reply #77)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:03 PM

86. So Connecticut...where we already have two Dems

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Response to unitedwethrive (Reply #86)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:06 PM

95. Likely in/around DC now, as has a job of some sort at Georgetown (I think.)

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:52 PM

66. Ugh!

The rethug lawyer, Bigears Mc Stinky, bugs me.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:52 PM

67. "I'm sorry. What was your question?" LOLOLOL


Her best answer yet !!

His questions are just read off a sheet, like stream of consciousness.... could throw off a lesses witness..
Not Y, though !


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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

69. I've figured it out: Castor's job is to get listeners to gouge out eardrums for relief

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:53 PM

71. Chalupa again...

Theyíre alerting the goons to go after her.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:54 PM

72. What

is this Castor guy trying to trap her or make her say something.

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Response to bdamomma (Reply #72)

Sat Nov 16, 2019, 02:00 PM

150. Of course! He was trying to impeach the witness, or get her to

impeach herself.

When she interjected the reminder that the intel community had determined it was RUSSIA and not Ukraine or someplace/somebody-else-over-there-somewhere, I felt happy inside.

She wouldnít play along. AND she got that into the record. And more than once.

I always appreciate when the good guys have a good lawyer.

When I first saw Castor, it struck me that ďsheesh - this guy looks like heís straight outta Central Casting for bad-guy lawyer.Ē He has a sinister look about him. May have been his thin angular face, or the dark overhanging brow and short wiry hair. Or some such. He definitely had the look.

And he wasnít very good at his job (assuming his job was to impeach or otherwise poke holes in the witness). But then again, he didnít have a whole lot to work with, either. This witness was impeccable, highly credible, and unimpeachable. And extremely sympathetic. Moreso by the minute as she told her story.

As odd as it might seem, I actually felt sorry for him.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:56 PM

75. Ken Vogel [Politico] and Alexandra Chalupa.

Here we go.

eta - none of the black ledger stuff had anything to do with her directly. He is reaching so hard to connect her to this or to make it sound like she should be in the loop in some way - good for her for pointing out that, while she'd heard of this, it's not her purview.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:56 PM

76. No wonder nunes and stefinik pushed so hard

To get a chance to ask more. Castor is a disaster asking questions. Nunes had nothing. They needed someone with a pulse interviewing Yovanovitch and castor isnít it.

Should I be alarmed l havenít really heard from Jordan? Maybe heís in mourning over stone.

Why does castor look like heís constantly trying to figure out who farted. I think he dealt it.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:57 PM

78. Just talking until they get a sound bite they can twist

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 12:58 PM

79. Is it just me or this clown flailing around for something, anything, to ask?

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Response to catbyte (Reply #79)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:02 PM

84. Physically flailing around too

I commented on that below

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Response to catbyte (Reply #79)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:03 PM

87. argle bargle was it wheeze your um argle understanding er wheeze what was the question

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:00 PM

83. Now he's going into some sort of gyrations when asking questions

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:02 PM

85. Notice all they have is an op-ed, not an actual NEWS article. nt

oh, and social media... gosh, Castor is just lost.

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Response to crickets (Reply #85)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:10 PM

103. Republicans don't understand the difference

Seriously, they think journalists all sit around and diabolically try to figure out ways to make Republicans look bad, and then fabricate stories that do just that.

In truth, they just report what Republicans say and do.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:03 PM

88. Trying to normalize drumphs "investigating corruption"

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:03 PM

89. !

!



Sorry for vagueness, continued listening. Had to do with meanness of social media and she had a zing

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:04 PM

91. About the Black Ledger

I wasnít familiar with it so looked it up. In short, all roads lead back to Russia.

Secret Ledger in Ukraine Lists Cash for Donald Trumpís Campaign Chief

Mr. Manafortís presence remains elsewhere here in [Kiev], where government investigators examining secret records have found his name, as well as companies he sought business with, as they try to untangle a corrupt network they say was used to loot Ukrainian assets and influence elections during the administration of Mr. Manafortís main client, former President Viktor F. Yanukovych.

Handwritten ledgers show $12.7 million in undisclosed cash payments designated for Mr. Manafort from Mr. Yanukovychís pro-Russian political party from 2007 to 2012, according to Ukraineís newly formed National Anti-Corruption Bureau. Investigators assert that the disbursements were part of an illegal off-the-books system whose recipients also included election officials.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/08/15/us/politics/paul-manafort-ukraine-donald-trump.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:05 PM

92. Did she just stun him by stating the fact that Russia interfered in the elections?

He seemed taken aback that she went there... or maybe upset that his questioning allowed her to get there.

TlalocW

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Response to TlalocW (Reply #92)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:06 PM

94. It's great how she slipped that in there.

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Response to TlalocW (Reply #92)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:07 PM

96. He did pivot away from that quickly, didn't he?

Oopsie, I think he made an outright mistake there.

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Response to RestoreAmerica2020 (Reply #93)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:07 PM

97. "He's flopping around like a fish."

According to my husband.

I would say thatís an accurate assessment.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:07 PM

98. Nothing. NOW TO 5 minute rounds - Schiff on.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:08 PM

100. Castor: Is my time coming to an end?

Please please let me be done

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:08 PM

101. What is this javelin crap?

Wasn't that back in 2018? Aren't we talking about stuff that happened this summer?

TlalocW

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Response to TlalocW (Reply #101)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:12 PM

107. The Javelins are the military aid that was held up by OMB.

They are in the infamous call. They were released just after Trump got caught, and anyone with firsthand knowledge of their delay is being denied to the impeachment committee.

They were important as a deterrent to Russia. They are advanced anti-tank weapons.

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Response to TlalocW (Reply #101)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:15 PM

115. He's trying to make Obama look bad in comparison to Trump

At that time, the leadership in Ukraine was not trusted and sending them was a bad idea. We sent aid, but not javelins.
Bringing it up wasn't a great idea though, because initially Trump held them back as well, to please Putin.

Discussion here:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100212675657

There's another thread about Obama and blankets comments from yesterday, but I can't find it right now.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:08 PM

102. yay! Castor's done!

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:10 PM

104. Schiff's a friggin' NINJA, baby...

Just took the air out of Nunes' opening "this should have been referred to HR" crap and is leaning in HARD on TRUMP.

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Response to Miles Archer (Reply #104)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:12 PM

108. His long game is a thing of beauty. The TWO calls.

Takes the air right out of their perfect little sails.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:11 PM

105. Note to castor bean: smarmy brow furrowing and jerkface smiles

Didnít make the pResident or complicit republicon lackeys look any better.

Instead, you revealed the breadth of working knowledge that a long term civil servant brings to a matter as serious as this.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:11 PM

106. Hoooo boy. I wouldn't want to be Sondland right now.


Schiff is brilliant.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #106)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:12 PM

109. No kidding.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:13 PM

110. Nunes' eyes are scary, dead

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:13 PM

111. MOO MOO MUTE!

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:14 PM

112. Here it comes...

The April call shows Donald Trump is liar.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:14 PM

113. Here comes Stupidfuckit.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:14 PM

114. Stefanik is the designated hit woman. Note, woman.

She is useful against sexism charges, and she should be ashamed.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #114)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:16 PM

116. Yep. n/t

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Response to nolabear (Reply #114)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:17 PM

119. She can't even be polite or pleasant when supposedly

being complimentary.

Also, here goes the speedy talking again.

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Response to nolabear (Reply #114)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:19 PM

123. Yes.

'And we will continue' (dragging Hunter Biden/Burisma into the circus.)

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Response to nolabear (Reply #114)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:20 PM

125. She's being used and seems to be proud of it.

Hopefully her day will come.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:16 PM

118. Sondland paid $1,000,000 to buy himself a world of hurt.

Sondland is going to do what he can to save himself. He will be roundly abused by the republicans at his hearing.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:18 PM

120. How the GOP members handle the 5-minute rounds is cringe inducing.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:18 PM

121. Talking about Burisma and Hunter Biden is a waste of time.

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Response to madaboutharry (Reply #121)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:21 PM

127. Get used to it

It's the new Hilary's emails. Every single one of them will pound that over and over.


Peace

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:19 PM

122. How many rounds of five minutes each do committee members get

Is it one round or two?

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:20 PM

124. Jim Himes (D-CT) questioning

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #124)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:28 PM

130. He did a good job asking her that if she had remained ambassador

whether she would have supported holding back aid or recommended Trump ask Zelinsky to "find out about Biden's son."

Of course she quietly answered no to both.

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Response to crickets (Reply #130)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:30 PM

133. Yup.

He - especially the mention of the "3 month delay" of aid!

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:23 PM

128. MUTE ALERT - Mike Conway (R-TX) up

Seems the latest talking point is that she was not punished but given a plum assignment teaching at Georgetown.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #128)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:30 PM

134. What a slap in the face to pretend it was a favor in the end to torpedo her ambassadorial career.

Nothing at all against a professorship at Georgetown, but honestly.

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Response to crickets (Reply #134)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:32 PM

135. That was an idiotic underhanded tactic that he did.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:26 PM

129. Oh no, there were NO negative consequences. So 45's insults mean nothing?

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:28 PM

131. Michael Turner (R-OH) putting old articles into the record using up his time.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #131)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:34 PM

138. All of them are about the whistleblower supposedly being set to testify "according to Schiff."

Yes, let's all take news reporting of shifting events from weeks or months ago as though it's testimony of some sort.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:29 PM

132. Terri Sewell (D-AL) up

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:32 PM

136. Amb Yovanovich is answering questions quite

diplomatically.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:34 PM

137. MUTE ALERT Mike Turner (R-OH) back again.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #137)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:36 PM

141. yea for sure

nt.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:34 PM

139. Crap another repig

crap. And talking fast too.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:37 PM

142. Dumbass Turner cut off by Schiff.

Now trying to dig up John Kerry & Clinton Foundation.

Trying to justify Ghouliani being there.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:37 PM

143. LOL, nice try to make Sondland legitimately meddling in the Ukraine

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:40 PM

145. It is unusual for the ambassador to the EU to be assigned to all of Ukraine

I paraphrased her, but that was a moment for Yovanovitch that I'm compelled to note.

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:40 PM

146. Andre Carson (D-IN) up

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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:40 PM

147. Thread had gotten long again

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Response to crickets (Reply #147)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:54 PM

148. thank you crickets



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Response to bdamomma (Original post)

Fri Nov 15, 2019, 01:56 PM

149. MUTE ALERT - Chris Stewart (R-UT)

He was whining about no collusion IGNORING that Roger Stone just got convicted for just that!

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