Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:11 PM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
Very bad news. Menashi was confirmed by evil Republicans.
The American Bar Association said he was unqualified to be a judge. He's never tried a court case in his life. He doesn't believe women or minorities should have equal rights. He's involved in a criminal scandal related to DeVos.
And by a 51-41 vote (all Republicans but Collins voting in favor), he now sits on the 2nd Circuit of Appeals for life and has tilted the power of the court to Republicans. Our Judiciary is completely destroyed for the rest of most of our lives. I honestly do not believe America can be fixed at this point. I think this country will be an authoritarian dictatorship within the next few years.
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OliverQ | Nov 2019 | OP |
onecaliberal | Nov 2019 | #1 | |
DENVERPOPS | Nov 2019 | #28 | |
okieinpain | Nov 2019 | #2 | |
sakabatou | Nov 2019 | #3 | |
lastlib | Nov 2019 | #4 | |
bdamomma | Nov 2019 | #31 | |
Hortensis | Nov 2019 | #5 | |
atreides1 | Nov 2019 | #7 | |
Hortensis | Nov 2019 | #11 | |
sheshe2 | Nov 2019 | #16 | |
OliverQ | Nov 2019 | #17 | |
Harker | Nov 2019 | #20 | |
Hortensis | Nov 2019 | #36 | |
BumRushDaShow | Nov 2019 | #40 | |
Silver1 | Nov 2019 | #32 | |
CaptainTruth | Nov 2019 | #25 | |
RT Atlanta | Nov 2019 | #30 | |
Dennis Donovan | Nov 2019 | #8 | |
enough | Nov 2019 | #12 | |
Dennis Donovan | Nov 2019 | #22 | |
Dan | Nov 2019 | #29 | |
Duppers | Nov 2019 | #6 | |
JudyM | Nov 2019 | #10 | |
Duppers | Nov 2019 | #18 | |
The Velveteen Ocelot | Nov 2019 | #9 | |
enough | Nov 2019 | #14 | |
triron | Nov 2019 | #13 | |
CrispyQ | Nov 2019 | #15 | |
snort | Nov 2019 | #19 | |
Kingofalldems | Nov 2019 | #21 | |
bdamomma | Nov 2019 | #33 | |
StarfishSaver | Nov 2019 | #23 | |
maxsolomon | Nov 2019 | #24 | |
Eliot Rosewater | Nov 2019 | #26 | |
ismnotwasm | Nov 2019 | #39 | |
Auggie | Nov 2019 | #27 | |
bdamomma | Nov 2019 | #35 | |
Perseus | Nov 2019 | #34 | |
Celerity | Nov 2019 | #37 | |
BumRushDaShow | Nov 2019 | #38 | |
Progressive Jones | Nov 2019 | #41 |
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:12 PM
onecaliberal (29,299 posts)
1. Sadly I agree.
Response to onecaliberal (Reply #1)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:05 PM
DENVERPOPS (7,590 posts)
28. I concur
I concurred with your conclusion a year ago......WASF
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:13 PM
okieinpain (9,396 posts)
2. totally agree. n/t.
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:16 PM
lastlib (20,303 posts)
4. God help us!
PLEEEEAZE send us an aneurysm!!! And HURRY!!
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Response to lastlib (Reply #4)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:12 PM
bdamomma (62,162 posts)
31. Hear our
prayer.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:16 PM
Hortensis (55,691 posts)
5. Q, terrible, but imo this "American can't be fixed" is useful idiot noise.
Vote for Democrats to fix it. That's what's needed from all of us, not black-pilling others with inappropriate despair.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #5)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:21 PM
atreides1 (15,796 posts)
7. Voting won't remove Menashi from the bench!!!
It also won't remove the other unqualified judges that Trump nominated, and the Republicans rubber stamped!!!
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Response to atreides1 (Reply #7)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:26 PM
Hortensis (55,691 posts)
11. No, but it will put people in office who WILL remove him.
Judges are removable. Those who want to keep their jobs, and that's almost all, will do what they have to do to keep them.
Give them LIBERAL GOVERNMENT to fear and obey, and they'll toe the legal lines or be gone. Btw, premature despair is...premature. This is hardly the first time good people have had to deal with corrupt and extremist judges. Means are built into the systems, have been from the very beginning and added to -- it's the power to use them we need. VOTE DEMOCRAT TO FIX IT. TELL EVERYONE ELSE TO ALSO. For each of us, it's really that simple. |
Response to Hortensis (Reply #11)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:42 PM
OliverQ (3,363 posts)
17. No, judges are not removable in this era. It requires 67 Senators to remove a judge.
That will never happen in modern America. There are not enough states Democrats can legitimately win Senate seats in to give them that many.
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Response to OliverQ (Reply #17)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 06:14 PM
Harker (11,971 posts)
20. We'll see about that.
There's no telling what sea change might result from open hearings.
Even if it takes 50 years (and I'm 60 now) it's worth the fight. |
Response to OliverQ (Reply #17)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:57 PM
Hortensis (55,691 posts)
36. What part of being part of a majority who don't want this
is so hard to understand?
![]() Anyone who can count senators can get the concept of how 67 senators get elected. This stuff drives me crazy. Frankly, I have to respect our RW neighbors who vote religiously for very wrong things more than I do those who enable what they're doing by insisting there's no point in trying to stop them because we're doomed to lose. Two very different, very serious problems, but one is strong and determined and votes strength. |
Response to OliverQ (Reply #17)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:09 PM
BumRushDaShow (109,865 posts)
40. See Alcee Hastings
https://www.senate.gov/artandhistory/history/common/briefing/Impeachment_Hastings.htm
He is currently a Congressman from Florida who is on the Rules Committee (who is now unfortunately undergoing an Ethics investigation - https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142395394) Judges can be removed but it depends on who that person is. Democrats briefly had 60 seats in the Senate (for about 4 months) in 2009. It would be a difficult thing to do to reach 67 (even if some were "moderate" GOP), but not unheard of. |
Response to Hortensis (Reply #11)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:14 PM
Silver1 (721 posts)
32. Thank you!
This isn't the first or the last time we fight for a government worth having. Our turn may be here, and so be it!
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Response to atreides1 (Reply #7)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 07:44 PM
CaptainTruth (5,640 posts)
25. He can be impeached.
Response to CaptainTruth (Reply #25)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:10 PM
RT Atlanta (2,496 posts)
30. Agreed on your comment and the point above about 50 years
Let's play hardball presuming a big D tsunami win in elections next year.
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Response to Hortensis (Reply #5)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:21 PM
Dennis Donovan (18,761 posts)
8. In regards to the judicial crisis, there's review boards and other mechanisms of enforcement
IMO, judges may be lifetime appts, but there not impervious to review and, if necessary, prosecution.
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Reply #8)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:29 PM
enough (12,925 posts)
12. Such mechanisms apply only to outrageous personal or
criminal offenses, not to ideologically biased jurisprudence. There is essentially no possibility that any of these judges will be removed from office before they decide to retire.
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Response to enough (Reply #12)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 06:28 PM
Dennis Donovan (18,761 posts)
22. Well, I'm thinking a clown like Menashi would trip up sometime...
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Response to enough (Reply #12)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:09 PM
Dan (3,394 posts)
29. There is a level of competence that even a judge must maintain....
I suspect too many judgements that get overturned might result in some type of review .
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:19 PM
Duppers (26,283 posts)
6. 😫 Moscow Mitch is killing our democracy.
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Response to Duppers (Reply #6)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:26 PM
JudyM (26,188 posts)
10. Disgustingly posted on his feed a week ago today... gloating over it all....
Response to JudyM (Reply #10)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:46 PM
Duppers (26,283 posts)
18. Omg!
I'm speechless except to say the American experiment is failing.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:25 PM
The Velveteen Ocelot (106,941 posts)
9. They will confirm anyone with a pulse that Fat Nixon wants.
Response to The Velveteen Ocelot (Reply #9)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:30 PM
enough (12,925 posts)
14. Actually, he nominates anyone they want. NT
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:30 PM
triron (21,043 posts)
13. This is grotesque. Trump got into the WH by illegal means and we put up with this shit.
Something is very wrong with this.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:31 PM
CrispyQ (33,876 posts)
15. We've been watching "The Good Fight"
& if the way they portray some of these Trump judges is accurate,we are in a world of hurt. They are ignorant of court procedures to the point they can be easily manipulated by both sides.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 05:48 PM
snort (2,334 posts)
19. Fuck Mcturtle.
He can't die or get voted out soon enough.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 06:22 PM
Kingofalldems (37,005 posts)
21. So should we just bow to Trump?
Response to Kingofalldems (Reply #21)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:15 PM
bdamomma (62,162 posts)
33. No
never
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 06:31 PM
StarfishSaver (18,486 posts)
23. But at least some people can feel sanctimonious that they didn't vote for the lesser of two evils
So, no harm, no foul.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 06:44 PM
maxsolomon (29,951 posts)
24. McConnell wins.
Obstruction works.
I suggest Dems do the same at every opportunity. They started a war and we didn't want to fight. |
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 07:46 PM
Eliot Rosewater (30,155 posts)
26. But Hillary gave a speech once, so surely all this is better?
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Response to Eliot Rosewater (Reply #26)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:05 PM
ismnotwasm (40,968 posts)
39. Yeah there was supposed to be a revolution to fix everything.
Or something
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 07:47 PM
Auggie (29,841 posts)
27. Courts are the grand prize for the deep state. That's why Trump is still in office.
Trump is the enabler. McConnell is the enforcer.
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Response to Auggie (Reply #27)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:17 PM
bdamomma (62,162 posts)
35. McConnell
Moscow Mitch, he can go to hell. Vile POS.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 08:16 PM
Perseus (4,341 posts)
34. He too can be impeached, right?
If so he will make an impeachable action in no time.
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Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 09:10 PM
Celerity (35,539 posts)
37. 'Our Judiciary is completely destroyed for the rest of most of our lives.'
Give Rump and the Rethugs 5 more years of loading it up and you have not see anything yet.
If they can take the SCOTUS to 7-2 or even 8-1 (Sotomayor has really bad diabetes, already requiring multiple hospitalisations) hardcore RW (and refresh Thomas' seat with a much younger RWer) and also keep on packing the lower tiers with RWNJ's, it will more than likely cause an eventual rending apart of the union itself, sometime before 2040. There is zero chance that the hard Blue states will continue to exist for decade after decade in a federally-mandated, nationwide-enforced radical RW theocracy.Think all civil rights (racially, gender, sexual orientation, etc etc) gained post-Brown v. Board (and probably Brown itself) reversed and NOT just devolved to the States, but dictated nationwide. |
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:00 PM
BumRushDaShow (109,865 posts)
38. "Our Judiciary is completely destroyed for the rest of most of our lives." - NOT YET.
So far, Drumpf has had (per Wikipedia's count that they tabulated from here - https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/judicial-vacancies/current-judicial-vacancies) 162 judges (after 3 years).
At the end of Obama's 2 terms (remember he was in for 2 terms), he had appointed 329 - and that was with all the obstruction. POLITICS 01/12/2017 07:00 am ET Updated Jan 12, 2017
How Barack Obama Transformed The Nation’s Courts He filled two SCOTUS seats and made the judiciary more diverse than ever. But the GOP stopped him from doing more. By Jennifer Bendery Obama will leave office with 329 of his judicial nominees confirmed to lifetime posts on federal courts. That includes two U.S. Supreme Court justices and four judges on the D.C. Circuit Court of Appeals, the two most powerful courts in the nation. Because of Obama, Democratic appointees now have a 7-4 advantage on the D.C. panel, and those judges will play a major role in deciding cases during the Trump administration related to environmental regulations, health care, national security, consumer protections and challenges to executive orders. Obama also tilted the partisan makeup of circuit courts. Nine of the country’s 13 appeals courts now have majority Democratic appointees, compared with just one when he took office in 2009. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/barack-obama-judicial-legacy_us_586c1944e4b0de3a08f9eb1f So what has changed now is that rather than 9 of the 13 Appeals courts being (D) and 4 (R), it's now 8 of them as (D) and 5 (R). Before Obama was elected, those Circuit courts were 12 (R) and 1 (D). So if we can insure he doesn't get back in, we can cut this off at the pass. I have had to post this over and over and over and over here on DU because of the unfortunate lack of this info being put out there and the continual whining that Obama and Democrats "did nothing". |
Response to OliverQ (Original post)
Thu Nov 14, 2019, 11:48 PM
Progressive Jones (6,011 posts)