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Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:10 PM

Drump's constant use of the term "Perfect"

I haven't seen anything on the subject of the use of this term that may apply beyond what we may understand and it is sort of scary.

Perfection and Perfect are terms and concepts held very strongly in the Evangelical world and in many Christian beliefs.

Simply; things that are "Perfect" are the Bible and Christ, etc.

There are a couple of links that describe this: Not that you need to read up on the subject but it may emphasize my point

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_perfection

https://www.biblestudytools.com/dictionaries/bakers-evangelical-dictionary/perfect-perfection.html

That point is---The word "Perfect" and it's frequency of use by Drump in many areas, not just the Ukraine phone call, is another one of his code words to his followers. This is truly along the cult lines and rings many evangelical (not just them) bells. He even fully capitalizes the word PERFECT to emphasize this connection. He is deliberately drawing a comparison of himself with Christ.

Something to be aware of, esp, when dealing with his cult followers.

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Reply Drump's constant use of the term "Perfect" (Original post)
marked50 Nov 11 OP
patricia92243 Nov 11 #1
SonofDonald Nov 11 #2
TheBlackAdder Nov 12 #39
marked50 Nov 11 #3
OAITW r.2.0 Nov 11 #8
Moostache Nov 12 #37
TwilightZone Nov 11 #14
Garrett78 Nov 12 #24
jcgoldie Nov 12 #28
tblue37 Nov 12 #29
Berlin Expat Nov 13 #40
tblue37 Nov 13 #43
maxsolomon Nov 12 #34
Thomas Hurt Nov 11 #4
lunatica Nov 11 #5
marked50 Nov 11 #6
lunatica Nov 11 #16
dewsgirl Nov 11 #7
empedocles Nov 11 #10
dewsgirl Nov 11 #12
DeminPennswoods Nov 11 #9
mopinko Nov 11 #15
NCLefty Nov 11 #11
Buns_of_Fire Nov 11 #13
azureblue Nov 12 #17
Tanuki Nov 12 #18
Aristus Nov 12 #19
RobinA Nov 12 #20
jcgoldie Nov 12 #31
3catwoman3 Nov 12 #32
Apollo Zeus Nov 12 #21
kentuck Nov 12 #22
wnylib Nov 12 #23
MarcA Nov 12 #27
wnylib Nov 12 #38
Caliman73 Nov 12 #25
Orrex Nov 12 #26
dalton99a Nov 12 #30
nykym Nov 12 #33
spanone Nov 12 #35
Butterflylady Nov 12 #36
Cha Nov 13 #41
Ms. Toad Nov 13 #42

Response to marked50 (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:11 PM

1. I think he just has a limited vocabulary.

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Response to patricia92243 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:14 PM

2. And that's a bigly word, that I can tell you

Many people are saying it

The low information types it seems

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Response to SonofDonald (Reply #2)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 02:02 PM

39. He's President Chauncey Gardener, except everything Trump touches dies.

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Response to patricia92243 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:15 PM

3. No doubt about that but we know

he uses hand gestures as signals to his most disgusting supporters.

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Response to patricia92243 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:24 PM

8. Yep, Occam's Razor.

Trump ain't no evangelical who has ever meditated on the word "perfect" wrt to Christian theology.

He used that word on his initial description of the phone call and it will remain "perfect" in all future Trump descriptions about this phone call. Phone call was perfect....easy for Trump to remember.

I've never heard anyone refer to a phone call as "perfect" . Good, encouraging, constructive, breakthrough, etc. Never, ever "perfect".

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Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #8)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:44 PM

37. His utter lack of a functional adult vocabulary is why it was "perfect"...

He wanted to express "appropriate" or even "procedural", but then his idiot mind got stuck in a loop and thinking that "OK" was just not strong enough to defend himself, it was the only thing that came to his empty little head though...but he then got stuck in another loop of trying to think a of word better than "OK" and all he could come up with was "perfect".

I loathe him with every single fiber of my being and for his 'fans', yes I DO look down on you, I DO believe that you are idiots and inbreds and I DO NOT want you around, at all.

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Response to patricia92243 (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:46 PM

14. Agreed, he's just a simpleton.

I'm not sure it goes any deeper than that, pun intended.

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Response to patricia92243 (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 12:53 PM

24. That was my immediate thought.

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Response to patricia92243 (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:13 PM

28. yes he doesn't know many words and he's ridiculously prone to hyperbole

Thus: "perfect" ad nauseum.

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Response to patricia92243 (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:13 PM

29. And he suffers from perseveration:

perseveration [per-sev″er-ashun]

the inappropriate persistence or repetition of a thought or action after the causative stimulus has ceased or in response to different stimuli; for example, a patient answers a question correctly but incorrectly gives the same answer to succeeding questions. Perseveration is most often associated with brain lesions but is also seen in schizophrenia.


Physical brain injury, trauma or damage

Perseveration is particularly common with those who have had traumatic brain injury.
Perseveration is sometimes a feature of frontal lobe lesions, and of other conditions involving dysfunction or dysregulation within the frontal lobe. This is especially true when the lateral orbitofrontal cortex or inferior prefrontal convexity (Brodmann areas 47/12) are affected.
Perseveration is also sometimes seen as a symptom of aphasia.

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Response to tblue37 (Reply #29)

Wed Nov 13, 2019, 05:54 AM

40. Perseveration certainly ties in with

the hypothesis that Trump may well be suffering from frontotemporal dementia.

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Response to Berlin Expat (Reply #40)

Wed Nov 13, 2019, 07:53 AM

43. Yep--dementia is one of the conditions that can cause perseveration. nt

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Response to patricia92243 (Reply #1)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:19 PM

34. Deliberately so.

At heart, he's a Patent Medicine huckster. He speaks the language of his marks; simple, punchy, repetitive.

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:17 PM

4. the more immoral and criminal his actions...the more he uses that word.

the more he is challenged on his behavior the more he accuses others of doing the same thing, or worse because that is what he would do.

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:18 PM

5. I think he's picking up cues from The Family

Netflix has a good documentary about them. Its not a real family, its a bunch of politicians who think god has made them super special. They think Trump is hand picked by god.

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Response to lunatica (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:23 PM

6. I am aware of "The Family" and the hand-picked from God thing sort of headed me in this direction

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Response to marked50 (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:58 PM

16. It's just the sort of thing he would eat right up

Gag!

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:23 PM

7. Rachel Maddow had an A block about Trump's use

Of words. It was quite interesting, he uses these keys words and then they become basically irrelevant. Such as coup and fake news.

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Response to dewsgirl (Reply #7)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:27 PM

10. trump's use of the word 'love' is bizarre

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Response to empedocles (Reply #10)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:34 PM

12. Yes it is. Sometimes it seems he is just a bot, needing

Putin's programming.
No real beliefs, passions, empathy, emotions, etc. just an empty vessel there for the taking, couple that with possible pre dementia, likely amphetamine addiction, sociopathic/narcissistic personality disorder, we are in real danger.

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:25 PM

9. IMHO, "perfect" more rightly translates to "perfectly fine"

in Trumpspeak.

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Response to DeminPennswoods (Reply #9)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:54 PM

15. or it was just like on the note cards they gave me.

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:29 PM

11. He's trying to brand his way out of this, as he always does. Short, easy to remember phrases are key

"No collusion."
"Read the transcript!"
"Perfect call!"

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 06:42 PM

13. The immaculate phone call? nt

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:01 AM

17. another speed rant

The years of snorting adderol and UK sudafed have fried his brain. He is a burnt out meth head.

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:17 AM

18. Verbal stereotypy?

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:18 AM

19. I think that, along with "beautiful", it's just indicative of his limited vocabulary

and his being a huckster.

If he wasn't born into wealth, he'd be a cheap carny barking his life away on some forlorn fairground somewhere.

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Response to Aristus (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 11:59 AM

20. That's Our President.

He uses "beautiful" often and oddly. I'd love to know where he picked that usage up.

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Response to RobinA (Reply #20)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:15 PM

31. Hey! Don't hate Kim Jong-un because he's beautiful!

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Response to Aristus (Reply #19)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:17 PM

32. Or living in a cardboard box...

...under a bridge somewhere.

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 12:12 PM

21. He loves hyperbole

"Yuge, bigly, perfect..." all of those words and would-be words. Just part of his non-stop braggadoious salesmanship.

Trump is an atheist. OTOH if Pence was using that word....

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 12:33 PM

22. He uses the word in a legal/criminality context.

It is "perfect" if there is not enough evidence to call it a crime, in his opinion,

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 12:37 PM

23. You might be right about it being a code word

but my take on "perfect" re the phone call is an organized crime perspective. A self incrimination actually, except that he stops short of a full explanation of why the call is perfect. A full explanation would be, in a tone of indignation, "Whadya mean it was improper? It was perfect. He (Zelensky) got my drift, ya know, and I didn't have ta say nothin' bout no quid pro quo. Nothin ta give me away. Perfect call." And to himself he wonders, "Damn, how did they figure it out just from the call when I was so careful about how I put the squeeze
on Zelinsky?"

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Response to wnylib (Reply #23)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:11 PM

27. I think this is it. He does have a Mob background.

Just like his use of "beautiful" and "wonderful". It's his expression of getting
away with something; a con, a crime.

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Response to MarcA (Reply #27)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:52 PM

38. Yep. That's how I see it. And apparently

Adam Schiff has a similar perspective on it.

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:01 PM

25. You may be reading too much into this.

No offense intended at all. Your post shows that you are thoughtful, but you may be giving Trump much more credit than he deserves. I seriously doubt that he would know the significance of the concept of "perfection" in the religious sense and I will give 3 reasons for my argument.

1. Trump is not religious, at all. Doesn't care for it, has never been active in religious study or practice. He wouldn't know the religious connotation of "perfection" on his own.
2. Trump is not articulate. He has a tendency to use words over and over again, even if they are not contextually accurate. He likely knows what "perfect" means in a conversational sense and he chose the word and continues to say it. Seth Meyers, the late night host was discussing this the other day. He was either given or possibly heard the word, "foisted" recently (although he says it as, "foistered" in discussing the Mueller investigation.
3. Trump is incurious and lacks the attention span to really understand things. If the new "anonymous" book is to be believed (though we have heard from different sources) Trump's briefings have had to be paired down from several, to three, to one, to one short item with graphic heavy explanations. So again, it wouldn't be something Trump is doing purposefully.

That is not to say that he wasn't fed the word by someone who may want it out there as code. A lot of Trump followers tend to think that he is saying things that are significant. Perhaps I am the one underestimating him, though from everything observable in the last few years, I would have to say that it is likely just that he heard the word, likes it, and has it in his repository of adjectives, like when he says, "like a dog" for everything bad.

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:05 PM

26. He's a perfect shithead, so there's that.

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:18 PM

33. It was a perfect call

A perfect example of extortion and bribery.

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:19 PM

35. I think he's just 100% full of shit.

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Tue Nov 12, 2019, 01:38 PM

36. When he uses the word perfect

He most likely is referring to himself. He sees himself as perfect.

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2019, 06:00 AM

41. Yes, Psycho is a perfect

******* idiot.

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Response to marked50 (Original post)

Wed Nov 13, 2019, 07:43 AM

42. He only has a few words in his vocabulary.

He uses them over and over again - and when he gets one associated with a concept he can't shake it loose. He also randomly capitalizes words and, again, once he does this it gets stuck and repeats itself.

You're overthinking this.

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