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Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:02 AM

Exactly what part of the Russian stealth war is unclear...?!?!

Let us remind ourselves of the current situation…

• Manipulated the US elections in 2016 through the targeting of social media and hacking.
• Infiltrated the NRA and laundered money through them.
• Provided hacked information on to Trump on his opponent, in a democratic election, to covertly influence the outcome.
• Putin…Wikileaks…Trump
• Putin is controlling Trump to be invited back to the big boys table and making it a G8 again.
• Putin denying that he is doing anything wrong and Trump believing him (or pretending too).
• Working to manipulate the results of the 2020 US election.
• Invests heavily in Russian Bot Farms to troll literally every progressive liberal movement and thought on the interwebs.
• Continues to do everything possible to undermine the stability of the European Union.
• They literally poisoned people in broad daylight in the United Kingdom, and as an aside they make polonium tea.
• Contributed significantly to the Leave Campaigns to influence the Brexit decision in the United Kingdom.
• Working to manipulate the General Election 2019 result in the United Kingdom.
• They have annexed Crimea and eastern Ukraine.
• They undermine NATO and the UN every chance they get, voting to support the bully boys and tyrants of the world.
• Their sticky fingers are all over the Syria and Turkey crisis.
• Funded Marine LePen and the far right in France.
• Funding the separatists in Spain.

Etc et al

There is a new war going on indeed… Russia disrupts everything and are overtly supported by our leadership. They refuse to act against these outrageous acts as our authoritarian wanna bees are benefiting so much from it. They are also letting him act like a super power when he is not. Fucking ridiculous. Sadly, the apathy of the electorate means they stand by and let them crack on with destroying the post world war 2 liberal progressive democratic order of the West.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 08:08 AM

1. I have said for years, WWIII would not be fought with bombs and bullets...



It would be fought with bits and bytes. And here we are...with Rudy as our cyber-czar planning cyber cooperation with the "enemy".

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Response to CincyDem (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 09:16 AM

2. +1

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Response to CincyDem (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 11:00 AM

3. ...and a media too entertained to take it $eriou$ly. What a world. nt

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Response to CincyDem (Reply #1)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 11:42 AM

4. +1, this is OP worthy !!! I've been warning America is too vested in Maginot Devices that cost tons

... of resources and will be neutralized at first chance.

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Response to Soph0571 (Original post)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 12:04 PM

5. Good post! The solid majority who elected Obama twice and

our first woman president once are, of course, still here and aware. And the midterms and recent elections suggest a lot of apathetic deniers and bystanders are waking up.

Btw, an Axios poll says Democrats finally average angrier even than Republicans. That's even though more poll respondents watch Fox and get news from Facebook/GOP-Putin than from other sources. Axios' description is spun to false-equalize angry Democrats as as stupid and devoid of principles as angry Republicans, but of course those paying attention know we have big things we should be very, very, very angry about.

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #5)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 03:20 PM

6. angry and determined. 2018 was the first battle of Armageddon

2018 wasn't the battle to end the war for the world; it was the opening salvo in the U.S.

It truly is a war between good and evil, with the fate of humanity at stake. Either we accelerate the death of the world as we know it, or we take back government and turn our collective efforts to mitigating the death and destruction we're heading toward.

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Response to Hermit-The-Prog (Reply #6)

Mon Nov 11, 2019, 04:39 PM

7. As you say. The fate of democracies around the planet could

ultimately depend on it surviving in the United States.

Angry and determined.

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