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Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:08 PM

Can they make Hunter Biden testify?

Yes, I am scared. These Rs think only of themselves. Of their reelection campaigns.

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Reply Can they make Hunter Biden testify? (Original post)
question everything Sunday OP
Snarkoleptic Sunday #1
question everything Sunday #2
not_the_one Sunday #23
Mike Nelson Sunday #3
question everything Sunday #4
killaphill Sunday #16
question everything Sunday #17
StarfishSaver Sunday #10
uponit7771 Sunday #19
mcar Sunday #20
uponit7771 Sunday #21
mcar Sunday #22
tblue37 Sunday #5
Hav Sunday #6
question everything Sunday #7
Meadowoak Sunday #8
4139 Sunday #9
StarfishSaver Sunday #11
4139 Sunday #12
StarfishSaver Sunday #15
former9thward Sunday #25
5X Sunday #13
Vinca Sunday #14
lark Sunday #18
smirkymonkey Sunday #24
rampartc Sunday #26
drray23 Sunday #27

Response to question everything (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:11 PM

1. No.

Democrats must approve any requests submitted by Republicans and they are expected to reject the requests for Hunter Biden and the whistleblower to appear.


https://www.cnn.com/2019/11/09/politics/house-republicans-impeachment-witness-requests/index.html

I shudder to think how screwed we'd be right now, had the Dems not taken back the House of Representatives.

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:12 PM

2. Thanks.

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Response to Snarkoleptic (Reply #1)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 06:55 PM

23. new rules...

NO ONE has to testify.

Period.

Ever.

They can volunteer, IF they want. IF they are in the mood.

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Response to question everything (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:13 PM

3. No and yes...

... no for the House of Reps... yes for the Senate or AG Barr.

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:16 PM

4. That's bad

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Response to question everything (Reply #4)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:14 PM

16. Why is it bad?

He did absolutely nothing wrong

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Response to killaphill (Reply #16)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:36 PM

17. There are so many former prosecutors in the senate

they would love to confuse any witness with no experience in facing a barrage of questions.

Perhaps I have been watching too many detective shows...

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Response to Mike Nelson (Reply #3)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:33 PM

10. True, but it will be difficult in the Senate

If the Articles are drafted right, anything about Hunter Biden would be irrelevant from an evidentiary standpoint and the Chief Justice could exclude it.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #10)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 06:07 PM

19. Makes me think democrats should charge Red Don with a crime instead of just an impeachable act.

Would that make things more formal and able to keep out there distracting BS we know is coming?

tia

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #19)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 06:10 PM

20. How could they charge him with a crime?

They don't have that capability.

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Response to mcar (Reply #20)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 06:15 PM

21. Couldn't the impeachment of a president involve charging him with a crime? I'm thinking they did ...

... this with Clinton right?

thx in advance

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Response to uponit7771 (Reply #21)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 06:46 PM

22. IIRC, Clinton's impeachment was based on his

supposed perjury in a deposition in a civil case. They based the impeachment on his perjury. They didn't charge him with a crime.

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Response to question everything (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:19 PM

5. Not unless Adam Schiff says it's OK--which he *won't*. nt

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Response to question everything (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:20 PM

6. Why should you be scared?

There is no indication so far that Hunter Biden has done anything wrong that would even warrant an investigation.
This is like 2016 when too many just believed baseless and made up accusations.

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Response to Hav (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:27 PM

7. Will give them a chance to twist facts and any statements

We have seen many - certainly Graham - switch ideas and opinion almost within the same paragraphs.

I don't think - don't know, really - whether Hunter is a skilled speaker. We don't know how he can withstand facing hostile inquisitors. We have had too many stories, in the criminal system, when witnesses ending up implying different things.

Hope to be found wrong on all accounts.

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Response to Hav (Reply #6)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:27 PM

8. +1

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Response to question everything (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:29 PM

9. If it makes it to the senate he will have to testify if he does not testify to the House.

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Response to 4139 (Reply #9)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:36 PM

11. Not necessarily

If the Articles of Impeachment are drafted well, the Chief Justice could exclude as irrelevant any evidence about or testimony by Hunter.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:45 PM

12. If the articles of impeachment include Ukraine, trump will be call both Bidens if he wants

Trumps defense is he was just asking Ukraine to investigate possible corruption.
Chief Justice will allow him call both Bidens if trump chooses to

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Response to 4139 (Reply #12)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:55 PM

15. Not necessarily

They don't need to question Biden to put Trump's mindset into the record.

That would be like calling Monica Lewinsky in Clinton's impeachment trial to testify about her sexual encounters with Clinton. The details of what they actually did were irrelevant on the issue of obstruction and perjury.

That would be the case here. Even if Hunter Biden HAD engaged in corrupt acts, which, of course, he didn't, that's irrelevant on the issue of Trump's extortion, bribery, obstruction and other wrongdoing.

And if they want to make Trump's mindset the issue the issue, Trump would have to testify to it himself, which isn't likely to happen.

Moreover, I don't think Roberts would allow it because he had no intention of presiding over a circus.

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Response to StarfishSaver (Reply #11)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 07:22 PM

25. Not necessarily

Roberts will almost assuredly follow the Rehnquist precedent in the Clinton impeachment.

Rehnquist ruled "The Senate is not simply a jury. It is a court in this case.". Rehnquist also said: "I did nothing in particular, and did it very well." Senator Harkin sent a letter to Rehnquist asking him to adopt certain limits on the House managers' questioning of potential witnesses. Rehnquist begged off.

https://www.cnn.com/2019/09/29/politics/william-rehnquist-impeachment-trial-senate/index.html

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Response to question everything (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:46 PM

13. If they want to do their investigation,

let them rent their own hall, call who ever they want and see if anyone shows up.
Media included.

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Response to question everything (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 02:49 PM

14. No. For starters, it wouldn't matter if Hunter Biden had been a serial killer operating in Ukraine.

The meat of the matter is Don wanting a favor before delivering the aid already approved by Congress.

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Response to question everything (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 03:40 PM

18. Not in the House, they can't.

If it goes to the Senate, you won't even know drumpf is involved, R's will make it all sbout Biden and Hunter and destroy our constitution - if they can/

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Response to question everything (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 07:12 PM

24. Why can't he just behave like a republican and refuse?

I don't get why Democrats need to abide by the rules while republicans get to ignore them.

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Response to question everything (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 07:28 PM

26. how would he know anything anout trump's crimes?

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Response to question everything (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 07:33 PM

27. Nope. Adam Schiff already said he won't approve it. Nt.

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