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Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:17 AM

Joyce Vance: "Jim Jordan stood by silently while tens if not hundreds of young men..."



Joyce Alene ✔ @JoyceWhiteVance

Katie Hill resigned over a consensual affair with a staffer. Bill Clinton was impeached. Jim Jordan stood by silently while tens if not hundreds of young men entrusted to his care as their coach were subjected to sexual abuse & did nothing.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/referee-says-he-told-rep-jim-jordan-ohio-state-doctor-n1078476
Second man accuses Rep. Jim Jordan of ignoring OSU abuse
The referee said the response of Jordan and another former coach was, "Yeah, yeah, we know."

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8:13 AM - Nov 8, 2019

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Reply Joyce Vance: "Jim Jordan stood by silently while tens if not hundreds of young men..." (Original post)
Dennis Donovan Friday OP
smirkymonkey Friday #1
Alliepoo Friday #31
smirkymonkey Friday #35
olegramps Friday #44
Baitball Blogger Friday #2
NewJeffCT Friday #3
bullwinkle428 Friday #4
NewJeffCT Friday #5
pangaia Friday #34
soldierant Friday #51
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MrsCoffee Friday #21
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Doitnow Saturday #54
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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:29 AM

1. Resign, you filthy motherfucker!

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:15 AM

31. He is a filthy mfer

I think he’s pretty popular in his red area. The family is a wrestling “dynasty” and well liked. The peeps in his neck of the woods probably don’t give a dang what he’s covered up coz they love what he is and what he stands for.

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Response to Alliepoo (Reply #31)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:46 AM

35. Ugh! They are just as disgusting as he is.

It makes me sick that there are so many degenerates in this country.

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Response to smirkymonkey (Reply #1)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:40 PM

44. He is a sexual pervert that takes vicarious pleasure in the sexual exploitation of young men.

He probably went home in a quandary of sexual frustration and screwed the family dog.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:37 AM

2. Is it possible that this is the thing that is hanging over his head that

is influencing him to be such a deplorable toady for Trump? Somehow they are all using their political offices to protect themselves from the consequences? Can't wait to see what Lindsey Graham is avoiding.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:45 AM

3. I think Trump has Kompromat

on a lot of leading Republicans - one Tweet from Trump saying "The allegations against Jim Jordan are disturbing and he should resign from Congress" and his career is essentially over. Even Fox News wouldn't touch him to work as a political analyst.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:49 AM

4. Is it truly "Kompromat" if it's common public knowledge? I mean, we all know

there have been rumors floating around Lindsey Graham for years, but this is completely different.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:56 AM

5. ok, instead of Kompromat

A Trump Tweet is hanging over all their heads like a Sword of Damocles

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:37 AM

34. rumors vs true blackmail..

HUGE difference

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #4)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:35 PM

51. Is there a statute of limitations on child sexual abuse?

Or abetting it? (For matter, is there a statute in Ohio defining the age of consent in such a way that these young men, or some of them , were under it?) Is there an eyewitness who can, and is in a position to, file a formal police complaint?

He doesn't seem to be worried, which doesn't mean much - there are plenty of white fools who think nothing about behavior which could land them behind mars. (Like they say, just google "Florida Man." But due process is required. If the legal proof isn't there - well, it is what it is.

If the legal proof is there and there's anything we can do to help justice, then, by all means, let's hear it.

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:10 AM

8. Meanwhile the silence fromt eh Evangelicals is

deafening

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Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #3)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:18 AM

11. It all makes sense, doesn't it?

Trump wasn't just digging up dirt on his Democratic opponents. He has been taking a very pro-active strategy, applying extortion pressure on everyone -- including the Republicans he needs in order to maintain his authority and position.

If I know anything about the small town conspiracy that took place in my town, it was all about garnering support. People who once were opposed to the City were turned and pulled into the City's inner circle to push the City's programs. They turned into goons, shutting down criticism of the City whenever any of us asked too many questions.

Good God, do I know that story well. Those of us who had something to say were mistreated and disparaged in public. And of course, defamed. We became examples to discourage anyone else from following the same track of thought.

With Trump's connections to Wikileaks and information acquired from a KGB expert - Putin, it would have been so easy to do. Especially when you have dirty-tricksters like Roger Stone on your side.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #11)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:36 AM

21. Cambridge Analytica.

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Response to MrsCoffee (Reply #21)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:42 AM

25. +1

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 03:17 AM

54. I think, in order to join the Rethug party you have to commit some heinous crime to insure your

fidelity to the rest of the mob. That's why they all stick together....until they don't.

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Response to Doitnow (Reply #54)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 08:39 AM

55. That too.

The "boy scout" quality is not admired in this bunch. I just keep thinking how they are so adept at being horrible, deplorable people and still they know how to take the high moral ground and force us into wars that should never be fought.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #55)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:32 PM

57. ...and behind that so-called "high moral ground" is the low one which is alway, always, always

the real reason for going to war---for OIL. Period! WHY DO WE ALWAYS FALL FOR IT?

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:06 AM

7. I think Trump has something more than Kompromat on Gym and the others.

These pigs are out, loud, and proud with their perversions. They are not ashamed, and can't be blackmailed that way.

On the other hand, they have taken millions of Roubles (via the NRA, Rudy's buddies, etc) and are in physical danger if they don't deliver on their promises to Putin.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:30 AM

17. Isn't that amazing that it's a coin toss to determine what will finally

break the Republican public's opinion of their own party? Will it be Russian connections, or will it be the heinous behavior of each of their members?

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #17)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:47 AM

36. Not a coin toss - it will never happen.

Anybody who is still a Russiapublican is lost. They are delighted with their evil politicians; the more evil the better. We have to accept that 35% of our population are worthless garbage. Our only option is to beat them soundly at the polls.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #7)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:07 AM

37. I'd rather believe that rump is too stupid to do or have anything like something more on Gym...

this really irks him that folks are saying that he's too stupid to pull off anything like gathering negative information on anyone, and I believe it. I read something in DU (can't recall the specific post) that he was really irked at being accused of being literally too stupid or dumb to pull off something like this (along w/ his sons too of course).

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #37)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:19 AM

39. Trump probably has Moe, Larry, and Curly running around gathering Kompromat on everybody.

Or at least, he did, 'til Larry and Curly got arrested.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:16 AM

10. maybe not just knowledge, but proof.

we all may have our suspicions about lindsey, but pics of him w a male hooker or a young person, or a goat, make a way different impression.
but add rubles, and maybe some silent complicity on a crime or 2, and you would have some intense "loyalty"

eta- also, this moron has the full access and force of the govt. suspect there is someone in the wh happy to tap phone calls and search computers.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #10)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:32 AM

18. Agree. It's Russian connections and Kompromat.

Those of us who were around during the Cold War are finally seeing all the lessons of the time come to roost.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #18)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:37 AM

23. yup. some of these old characters popping up really make me go hmmm.

i wonder how many characters in this little drama go all the way back to the last great puppet prez- st ronnie.

vaguely recall rachel talking about what manafort and stone were doing then.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #23)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:41 AM

24. +1

The way that Republicans use character assassination to take down Democratic opponents it might have been progressing over the decades. Russian influence and social media just took it to the next, logical step.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #24)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:08 AM

27. as someone else pointed out in this thread- cambridge analytica.

i had posited the other day that part of the terror of tweets is that it isnt just the tweets. it's the laser weapon that they created that can be targeted to someone's left ear.

plus, yeah, russia hacked the rnc too, and we never heard a word.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #27)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:15 AM

30. Great posts in this thread.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:27 AM

13. Lindsey has most likely been in the closet so long that he's afraid to come out.

Most people (at least the sane ones) no longer care, but imagine what Trump would do to Lindsey if he ever turned against him. I can see lots of lurid tweets.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:37 AM

22. I do wonder what would happen to Lindsey if pictures start circulating.

Our side would not care. But what would conservatives in the Deep South think? It would only collapse on him from all sides if he is pictured with an underaged partner.

And then, we're back to Epstein. How many people did he lure into his castle of blackmail R us?

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #22)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:22 AM

40. To be honest w/ you I'm surprised that pics hasn't shown up yet! Makes me wonder...nt

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #13)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 11:17 AM

38. Are his parents or close older relatives still alive?

I've heard sometimes if elderly parents are still alive they would be destroyed if they found out.

That, supposedly, is the fear of leaving the closet.

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Response to Baitball Blogger (Reply #2)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:30 AM

16. Probably not..

Some of this appears to have been a kind of systemic problem at the time at OSU. For some unclear reason, the school allowed men who had no connection to the athletic programs to regularly use certain team locker room facilities. There were men (other than the doctor) who came there to ogle the wrestlers, some of whom engaged in similar acts as they did so. Jordan, an assistant coach, undoubtedly knew this, but so did his boss, the actual coach.

In interviews after this story broke, the coach made reference to the locker room events openly. (There are reports that the coach on occasion physically tossed self-stimulating voyeurs from the facilities.) The coach complained about this regularly to the administrators above him, who did nothing about it. So, I don't see how the situation was some kind of sword hanging over Jordan's head specifically all of these years.

(NB The above relates to the locker room stuff reported in the OP, not the doctor's abusive acts that he performed while supposedly providing medical treatments.)

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Response to Princess Turandot (Reply #16)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:34 AM

19. It's all about cultivating friends in high places in order to avoid

legal consequences. Jordan will still be responsible because he should have turned into a whistle blower.

The irony.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:00 AM

6. The first person who reported the doctor's behavior to Jordan

was a former wrestler. He was bashed as being a trouble maker and couldn't be trusted. I wonder if they are digging up dirt on this referee? Even Paterno reported Sandusky to his superiors, albeit way too late.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:11 AM

9. Call your Reps and demand they call for Jordan's resignation

and for him to be investigated.

I'm so pissed that Katie Hill resigned over a consensual relationship, but Jordan gets to keep his job after covering up the abuse of 177 wrestlers.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:26 AM

12. What a terrible man he is..

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:28 AM

14. Kick

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:29 AM

15. The jury is out with me as to whether he turned a blind eye or actually partook in those activities

.

There is something wrong with his face and mannerisms. He seems like a sexual pervert to me.

.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:36 AM

20. It's long past time for the media to pound and pound and pound on this

as well as pound on Gaetz's malfeasance.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #20)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:51 AM

26. Their party of Clinton's Pizzagate/Martian Sex Colony looks away when there are credible accusations

.

They just like the pervy stuff to use as a bludgeon to activate their sexually deviant base.

But, when it's their team actually doing it, they ignore it, because that's the same shit most of them would do if they had the chance.

.

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Response to TheBlackAdder (Reply #26)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:10 AM

29. Yup. That sums it up.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:10 AM

28. Gym Jordan is a cookie-cutter version of D.J. Trump. A loudmouth bully. Who wants to be heard.......

..... and who likely also considers himself to be a stable genius.

He likes to ignore the rules and traditions of the body he serves in. Those rules and traditions are for the suckers.

Hey, Gym roll down your shirt sleeves put your damn jacket on. You're not an assistant coach anymore.

Although you weren't well fitted for that job either.

You apparently looked the other way and ignored the health and well being of your squad.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:20 AM

32. Read this today. Ohio woman who was abused received a 30 year sentence for "enabling child abuse".

and "failure to protect". Her and the children's abuser received a 10 year suspended sentence. He served 2 years and was released on probation.


Mother to Be Freed After 15 Years in Prison for Father’s Abuse
Tondalao Hall was sentenced to 30 years for “failure to protect” her children from her abusive boyfriend.

By Aimee Ortiz
Nov. 8, 2019
Updated 7:48 a.m. ET

<<<<<<<more

"Mr. Braxton, who pleaded guilty to child abuse, received a 10-year suspended sentence and was released on probation after having served two years in jail, Ms. Lambert said. The child abuse charges against Ms. Hall were dropped, but she pleaded guilty to enabling child abuse, and was sentenced to 30 years."

Break........

Ms. Hall was sentenced under the state’s “failure to protect” laws, which state that “enabling child abuse is a felony that can carry the same penalties as child abuse,” according to The Oklahoman.

More>>>>>

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/08/us/tondalao-hall-oklahoma-commutation.html


This was in Ohio, Jim Jordan is a Representative from Ohio. Seems like they have a case to go after "Shirtsleeves Jim"

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Response to Fla Dem (Reply #32)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 01:26 PM

41. that does NOT look like "equal protection under the law" to me

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:30 AM

33. Probably why Gym was actually named in the lawsuit.

Think there should be a congressional investigation on this.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 03:57 PM

42. We have;

Tiny Tim,

Tiny hands tRUMP, and now

#TinyGYM the less than 5' 4" POS.


Just sayin...

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:38 PM

43. Who? Oh do you mean Gym Jordan?

Thought so..

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Response to Cetacea (Reply #43)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 04:51 PM

45. That's Gym "Jacketoff" Jordan. n/t

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:09 PM

46. Disgusting repug party.

Religious family values party. Law and order party. Mind everyone elses' sex life party.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 05:56 PM

47. ...."Gym" Jordan....

.....is a rethug worthless piece of shit who can only praise and worship another worthless piece of shit who happens to reside in...OUR...White House !!!!......he needs to resign and leave congress as he has no place in our government in any position......

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:02 PM

48. Zealot Jordan's hands are dirty and he should resign

His brand of partisan scorched earth politics is the last thing we need in Washington.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 06:34 PM

49. Get this lowlife out.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 08:09 PM

50. Lock that criminal,

up.

Bye, bye!

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 09:40 PM

52. Gym bag reeks

n/t

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Response to Blue Owl (Reply #52)

Sat Nov 9, 2019, 08:44 AM

56. I see what you did there

Nice

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Fri Nov 8, 2019, 10:18 PM

53. Scum bag MFer

F him and the pedophile doctor he rode in on. The epitome of right wing assholes = Jordan. The face of white male privliege asking to be smacked. Typical Rethuglican deplorable.

In 2020 we need to rid the country of these vile a**holes.

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Response to Dennis Donovan (Original post)

Sun Nov 10, 2019, 01:40 PM

58. Republicans don't resign

Unless they are forced to

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